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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSenator Bob Casey (D) PA calls for Franken to resign.
"I agree with my colleagues who have stepped forward today and called on Senator Franken to resign. We cant just believe women when its convenient."
VMA131Marine
(4,140 posts)Franken is not going to survive this without the Dem looking like total hypocrites.
still_one
(92,273 posts)R B Garr
(16,956 posts)enough when she needed them, so if Bill needed to go, then she should take her own advice.
(note for jury: some sarcasm, but mostly disgust...)
still_one
(92,273 posts)unfair
R B Garr
(16,956 posts)If Gillibrand steps down due to her newfound deeply-held values about the Clintons and how that taints her with their endorsement, then Hillary can take her seat back.
Go Hillary!
tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)I say shitgibbon first, pedo judge second then maybe we'll talk about Franken. This is a false equivalency as in bank robbery is 2 running a stop light. They're both violations of the law but one is clearly more serious than the other. And neither of the perpetrators of the more serious and egregious perpetrations of sexual assault have yet to suffer any consequences. This is ridiculous.
LexVegas
(6,073 posts)still_one
(92,273 posts)a chance to defend himself
Incidentally BOB, since you are so concerned about women, can you educate us on you views about a women's right to CHOOSE
Here are some of you self-righteous views:
Roe v. Wade Should Be Overturned
Right to Privacy means contraception, not unborn
No embryonic stem cell research; adult research ok
Opposes public funding of abortion
Voted YES on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion.
http://www.ontheissues.org/Social/Bob_Casey_Abortion.htm
VMA131Marine
(4,140 posts)or observed what Fox Snooze and the GOP are doing to the Moore accusers, you would know why some women don't want their identity revealed.
still_one
(92,273 posts)Senators seem to want to deny him that.
He is being tried and convicted without a fair hearing
Welcome to the Salem Witch Trials
Joe McCarthy would be proud
VMA131Marine
(4,140 posts)Unless he has an ironclad, slam-dunk case that he's being framed the outcome will not be good.
still_one
(92,273 posts)Democrats from republicans
defacto7
(13,485 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)Franken can't even deny he did these things. He claims he doesn't remember. That's what Kevin Spacey claimed. Didn't stop him from getting fired.
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)As for the different recollections I think he was really trying to not call these women liars.
For the record, I don't believe any of it aside from the fact that the hoverhands pictures happened.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)The women who have been identified as accusers of Sen. Franken have had their stories fall apart on closer examination. Another good reason to hide behind the screen of anonymity.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)Win.
This is a time to fight back, a time to be brave, a time to be a leader. It's not a time to shrink under the ugliness they are fighting. To remain anonymous means they are lying or it means they are weak. Either way it makes all women look weak and that is one of the objectives of the rw.
atreides1
(16,084 posts)Franken has the right under the 6th Amendment of the Constitution to face his accusers! And there is difference between the anonymous women accusing Franken and the women accusing Weinstein and Moore, it's called courage!
The courage to stand up and do what's right, by looking their attackers in the eye and not hiding in the shadows!!!
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Great, let's begin.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Why are we not doubling down on the republican accusations instead of going after our own? Especially when those accusations have not been proven and are most likely a the product of a right-wing smear campaign? There is an investigation and no conclusions have been reached. They should all just keep their mouths shut.
treestar
(82,383 posts)can't even take each case on its own merits? We have to believe the accusations always? That's insane. Look how much power that gives people just for saying something.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)Vinca
(50,288 posts)Republicans will now be charged up to make all kinds of claims. Casey could be next. Shouldn't be too hard to fill a Democratic seat with a Republican in Pennsylvania.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)my political future based on the outcome of this "event". I'm done with the weakness. I'm tired of the kowtowing reactions to GOP antagonization. I'm done with GOP hardcore porn winning a war using intimidation and anonymous smoke.
We either fight to win or fight and lose. Or we just lay down and die.
FreeStateDemocrat
(2,654 posts)going to be a gutless hypocrite and keep his chicken-shit mouth shut about the monster in the White House???
Paladin
(28,266 posts)It seems very popular amongst Democratic Senators today. Hope they enjoy Roy Moore's company.
WoonTars
(694 posts)N/t
WoonTars
(694 posts)Fuck no he shouldn't go...not until the investigation is completed...
Historic NY
(37,451 posts)nameless faces, with the same story. There is an agenda here.
Orrex
(63,216 posts)that the Senators calling for Franken to step down may know more than we do.
Before I let myself get any more profoundly pissed off, I'm going to wait for additional information.