Franken will resign. Moore will win in ALA. And, the Tax bill will be passed and signed into law.

[Yavin4]

But, the Democrats won the moral high ground. Congrats. I hope that there's some sort of trophy that comes with that. So that when SS and Medicare are being destroyed with budget cuts and Moore is writing legislation to strip citizenship rights from the LGBTQ community, we can all look fondly at the Moral High Ground trophy.

[Bettie]

1. We'll get a participation ribbon

and a whole lot of Right Wingers laughing at us...

OH and a right wing sweep of 2018 elections as they find anonymous "accusers" for every Dem running.

[COLGATE4]

23. You took the words out of my mouth.

I hope we can bask in the self-satisfied glow of knowing we lost one of (if not THE) best Senators we have because of our own foolishness in biting on Swift-Boat accusations while letting a law-breaking pedophile waltz into the Senate to add another crazy to the list of Republican whackos already there. Let's be sure not to hurt ourselves patting ourselves on the back too hard!

[lady lib]

42. Yup.

n/t

[Hortensis]

62. Don't forget you all get to eat worms, too.

Personally, if I could trade 10% of our left-wing whiners for 10% of the right-wingers whose only remaining principle is being passionately against the other party, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

How to get rid of them after we swept the nation in 2018 would be a problem for then. But I'm inclined to guess we'd want to leave the whiny defeatists we'd traded off to continue their work for the Republicans.

Just imagine, "We've going to lose in 2018 because our leaders can't do anything right" chorusing out in a million Republican voices all over social media every day or so. If only.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. We can stick our gold star for good conduct on the refrigerator

with all our other prizes, for Mom and Dad to admire. Won't that be nice?

[dalton99a]

10. +1

[kcr]

3. And if the big macs don't kill him, Trump will win another 4 years

I already thought that before today, though. We always fuck things up.

[Owl]

4. Exactly

[CanonRay]

5. They will seat Moore. No rethug will resign

We are fools

[workinclasszero]

6. Can I trade in that trophy for some extra food stamps?

Didn't think so......

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

12. Food stamps are going to be cut if not eliminated.

Didn't you hear that reforming (destroying) welfare is the next Repug priority? After another run at the ACA, of course.

Whatever happened to the plan to rebuild the infrastructure? I didn't think welfare was even mentioned during the campaign.

[workinclasszero]

14. Yes the republicans are going to "reform" the poor into

the nearest graveyard ASAP.

It's what the "pro-life" party does.

[Initech]

61. Pfff... who cares about things like health care and infrastructure?

The "job creators" need new yachts! The 400 footers aren't big enough!

[Kablooie]

7. Just imagine you're living in the 1890s Might make it a little easier to bear.

(Maybe)

Yep. The forces of evil and insanity are winning big time and with the countries legal machinery taken over by the extreme right theres virtually no way to change direction no matter what popular sentiment is.

I won't be too surprised when legal racial discrimination is reinstated and people start dying from bad food products with no legal recourse available to them.

Welcome back to Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle"

[elfin]

8. You are right.

Unless and until I learn that Franken molested a 14 year old or used his position of power to sexually harass and derail a woman's career, I will accept a contrite statement about behaving like a pig in the past and then going thru the ethics committee and then letting the Minn voters decide at the next election.

Same for a Repug. This old lady can and does see degrees of behavior even on the other side of the aisle. Franken does not meet the threshold IMO.

If he resigns, there will be happy dances in Sessions' office and the Oval Office.

[beaglelover]

19. Agree 100%

Let all that play out and let the voters of MN decide next election cycle.

[NYETNYET]

22. YOU ARE SO RIGHT!

Please let him go through the process. He may have acted stupid in his life but I don't think he ever realized he was hurting someone. He does now! Keep him there to help shine a light on the rest

[OliverQ]

9. I really need to find a way to leave this country.

I'm fearing for my safety and health with how this country is collapsing. It's not going to improve.

[byronius]

40. We live in the heart of the beast, though. If we collapse, it's the human species.

Little bit Americocentric of me, perhaps, but it can be argued that we win here or we go through some serious horror as a planet.

[OliverQ]

44. Europe ruled the world at one time. They can step up and do it again.

[byronius]

57. "Ruled the world", though, glosses over constant warfare and human misery.

I'm hoping to win it here and avoid that.

[standingtall]

11. What do Democratic Senators think

they are going to gain by this? The support of republican women that voted for Trump? Newsflash they voted for Trump despite the allegations of his sexual misconduct. If Trump isn't impeached and runs for re-election in 2020 he will then turnaround and talk like he was Franken's best friend on the campaign trail.

[Baconator]

13. Yes to everything in the title...

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

15. Yep

And I'm sick to death of it. Those taking the so called moral high ground won't be hurt by the GOP tax bill.

[Jakes Progress]

16. How am I supposed to send money to the DLC

when our own congress critters act this dumb?

[geardaddy]

17. Great. I can kiss my healthcare coverage goodbye.

It's been nice knowing you all.

[beaglelover]

18. 100% agree with your post. Congrats spineless dems.

[sinkingfeeling]

20. Absolutely correct. Democrats will have been played again.

2000 election
2004 election
ACORN dismantled
Planned Parenthood being destroyed
Al Franken being forced out

If he resigned, I'm done. Will end 50 years as a dues paying Democratic Party member.

[Blue_true]

21. Franken will resign and the governor will appoint a Democrat, hopefully a younger one that is

morally clean and female. Who gives a shit if Alabamans disgraces themselves by sending a pedophile to Washington. Moore's election will do nothing to current balance, but it will mortally wound the Republican Party.

[neohippie]

26. you can't mortally wound a party that only pretends to have morals

Their supporters have proven that they just don't care what they do, as long as they say they are moral

[Blue_true]

29. If Moore is elected and he is not thrown out.

Their hypocrisy will be clear, even to the "no difference" idiots on the far left.

[SHRED]

33. Those idiots are not reachable

[Blue_true]

37. You are likely right, but those they can influence will stop listening.

The key is saving the ones on the margins, not the Sarandons' or Wests'.

[Doremus]

38. They wave hypocrisy like a banner. They're proud of it and their followers are lemmings.

So, yeah, let's take that moral high ground. It works for us in so many ways.

[Volaris]

48. I think this is why this is happening this way...

They want to be able to kick him the fuck out if they retake the Senate next year, and they won't want arguments of hypocrisy or any 'poor us Republicans, look how much the liburls hate us' bullshit.
If Al resigns, they can say Zero Tolerance...for us AND you, so Moore GOES.

Honestly that's the only explanation I've got other than we've made ourselves afraid of our own shadow (again).

[COLGATE4]

27. "mortally wound the Republican party"?????

I rest my case.

[Blue_true]

32. They have been able to dodge their hypocrisy.

But if Moore is elected and not kicked out of the Senate, that does them in with lots of suburban republican women, I know some of that type, they don't run to Democrats because they come from longtime republican families, the ones that I know are upset with Trump being elected and likely abandon the party for good, a few already have.

[SHRED]

31. Moore will not "mortally wound" anything

Look at who's the President.
Look at how much rural America runs this country.

It's rigged.

[Blue_true]

35. I know some longtime republicans who voted for Hillary.

Moore being elected and seated is the end for those people, I know from dealing with them. They are old line republicans, conservative, but honest with integrity.

[SHRED]

36. Those of whom you speak

They already switched over.
Not sure what you mean.

[Blue_true]

39. This is what I mean.

Others held their nose and voted for Trump. Most regret that vote now. If Moore wins in Alabama and is seated, the ones that held their nose are saying there is nothing left for them in the repug party. They become leaners that we can talk to as long as we don't abandon our principles to get their votes.

[SHRED]

41. Let's not forget

The majority of white women voted for the pussy grabbing child raper who sits in the Whitehouse.

Morals mean nothing to them.

[rockfordfile]

59. Why would you say that?

What if it's a male to replace Franken?

[RandiFan1290]

24. Sweet Georgia Brown!

[RhodeIslandOne]

25. Fuck it. Let America burn.

I’m sure the trolls have huge smiles on their faces today.

[still_one]

28. Unfortunately Yavin4, 2016 pretty much made that prediction a likelyhood

[lancelyons]

30. You have to take the high ground. Its tough but you have too.

You have to take the high ground. Its tough but you have too.

Its called doing the right thing.

I think Minn. governor is Democrat so he will be able to appoint another democrat.

[ck4829]

50. Doing the right thing is having the US be #1 in terms of healthcare

Doing the right thing is not wagging your finger at someone who says their life matters or calling them a terrorist.

Doing the right thing is a government that doesn't have people dehumanize or demonize you for being different on speed dial.

Patting ourselves on the back and getting some imaginary trophy for our conduct isn't necessarily the right thing.

[GaryCnf]

34. It's not even taking a moral high ground

It's doing what those political "geniuses" who entrenched themselves in the party in 1992 THINK will please their number one targeted demographic, white suburban women.

[Yavin4]

46. The same demo that voted Trump into office in 2016

Yeah. Solid plan.

[GaryCnf]

47. It's the same ignorance

That didn't give it's progenitor a popular majority in 1992 or 1996, that cost us both houses of Congress, that cost us the presidency in 2000, 2004, and 2016, and, oh yeah, put tens of thousands of "scary" black men in federal prison.

And it's STILL the national party strategy.

[hatrack]

43. I hear Moral High Ground tastes just like pecan pie, topped with whipped cream and shit . ..

Dig in!!

[LisaL]

49. Mostly shit.

[ck4829]

45. All I know is no abstract trophy is going to help my sick nephew

And I have yet to get one myself for telling my Muslim coworkers to not be satisfied with being permanent residents and get started on the process of obtaining citizenship.

The right wing is at war with us, and we're not bringing a knife to a gun fight, we're bringing a plate of cookies.

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

51. or there is this.........

[kacekwl]

52. Sounds about right. n/t

[LisaL]

54. Sure does.

[DFW]

53. If the dark side does really have occasion to jump up and down with glee and say "we won!"

I'll just look them straight in the eye and ask, "just WHAT is it you think you've won? Most of you will be poorer and many of you will die quicker. If that's your idea of winning, congratulations."

[blueinredohio]

55. I'm thinking if Franken resigns I'm done no more watching news, no more voting,

just live out my last year's the best I can. I don't worry for me but I worry for my grandkids

[onethatcares]

56. welcome to america

suckers.

At one time I believed we were the shining city on the hill, that we looked after our brothers and made the world a better place.

But that was right before the Kennedys were murdered and I waited for this shitshow to start.

We aren't anything like what we think we are. No, nothing at all.

[elehhhhna]

58. Where are being conned by a bad cop worse cop act

We should just eat your peas and keep your powder dry while we get fucked till we look like a shitty version of Russia

[MFM008]

60. Yeah we can lose

On the high ground as well as anywhere else......

[OnDoutside]

63. I hope Gillibrand, Harris etc will attend all those funerals and give an oration, "You might have

the Low ground now, but rest assured we have the High ground !!! "

[Calista241]

64. Moore will win the election

But I think it's 50/50 the Repubs force him out of office.