Can we please not trash Dem female or male Senators

[TDale313]

For standing up for the idea that sexual harassment or assault needs to be taken seriously and have consequences? The fact that Repugs are disgusting and don’t give a damn does not mean we shouldn’t.

[kcr]

1. Can we please not twist the motivation of others?

No one is claiming that sexual harassment shouldn't be taken seriously and shouldn't have consequences. But I think you already knew that.

[mythology]

8. You apparently have missed the posts saying exactly that

One person yesterday said forcing a kiss on a woman wasn't a problem. Many posters here have said we should only do something about Conyers and Franken if Trump and Farenthold resign and Moore removes himself from the race. That says sexual harassment and assault matters less than political consideration.

[kcr]

12. I'm here. I read the posts at DU, too.

Taking one post by an individual who thinks forced kissing is ok and projecting that onto all DUers who support Al Franken is pretty slimey.

[Orrex]

15. Really? REALLY?

Links, please.

Who exactly is claiming that sexual harassment shouldn't be taken seriously and shouldn't have consequences?

Taking it seriously doesn't mean "believe every nebulous and unverifiable story by anonymous and/or dubious accusers," nor does it mean "anyone who is accused should resign."

Who, in your view, is "saying exactly that" sexual harassment shouldn't be taken seriously?

[emulatorloo]

23. "One person" doesn't represent all DU. If I see that person I will call him out

In the meantime don't smear all DU'ers for what one fool said.

[chomper]

2. Disagree with you.

They should shut up.

[mythology]

3. Unfortunately apparently no

[BannonsLiver]

4. Wont trash

But I’ve got a long memory. I won’t support any Dem that called for him to resign. The 2020 primsry field is already narrowing for this voter.

[Bettie]

11. For me too

Forcing Franken to step down goes a long way to minimizing the actual impact of sexual assault.

They now get to say that Franken is worse than Moore or Trump, because he stepped down. It puts Franken on the level of Weinstein.

[msongs]

5. lots of women are serial liars who cant be trusted under any circumstances.

every complaint can be acknowledged but automatic belief is not appropriate. anonymous complaints should be disregarded

[woolldog]

14. one minor correction: lots of people are serial liars who can't be trusted...

[irisblue]

16. This

[hlthe2b]

17. yup... there is near gender equality on that score

[msongs]

19. yes the statement does not include all possibilities. nt

[LovingA2andMI]

18. Women Are Liars Now...

Amazing the Pretzel Twisting That's Going On At This Place Right Now. Just Amazing...

[OliverQ]

20. Are you claiming women are incapable of lying to sabotage a man?

The newest accuser is anonymous, and has no evidence, no pictures, no witnesses. Yet we're supposed to believe her accusation based on faith and demand Franken resign because of it?

[msongs]

21. some are. not pretzel twisting at all. nt

[LovingA2andMI]

22. Preztel Twisting....

Period. Here's A Pretzel...

[Joe941]

6. Thank you.

[Skittles]

7. targeted bullshit has consequences too

[LovingA2andMI]

9. Bookmarking this thread....

To see how many removals of posts takes place here -- as when the same thing was done yesterday, ours was removed immediately.

And yes, we are okay with the intent of this post.

[hlthe2b]

10. They should not but rather criticized for not differentiating between pedophilia, sexual extortion,

abuse of power to coerce sexual acts and favors--> brought forth by identified, brave women, as opposed to unsubstantiated vague groping descriptions by anonymous women without taking the briefest time to investigate the veracity of these reports.

They may be well intentioned, but they have opened the flood gates to blind accusations destroying potentially innocent and otherwise honorable leaders. The RW now has a potent weapon to destroy our elected representatives and it is US!

We have very likely been hoisted on our own "best intentions/zero tolerance/no distinctions" petard.

[softfls]

13. Can we please not trash Dem female or male Senators

No we cannot. Until the dems learn to STICK TOGETHER we are through! This is a Roger Stone hit job! The women who have accused Franken should be forced to submit to a lie detector test or STFU! Franken should sue for slander! Sessions is laughing his ass off! DO NOT RESIGN AL!!

[fleabiscuit]

24. We should take the high road. nt