We cannot defeat the Republicans and their agenda by shaming them or appealing to their good soul or

[Yavin4]

reaching out to them with love and logic. That shit does not work on a soulless, power hungry machine that's willing to starve your grandparents and throw your kids out of school in order to win.

They don't give a shit about you nor your feelings. They don't care what you think about them. What you call them. That you protest them. They are ruthless assholes of the highest order. They will make deals with polluters, gun nutters, religious freaks, you name it if that means victory.

They win because they cheat and dare you to call them on it. And even if you do call them on it, they know that they use some sort of distraction bullshit which leads to in-fighting amongst us.

If we're not willing to fight these assholes head on, then we have lost before the battle has been won.

[Cattledog]

1. This is how Nazis gained power in Germany.

[Glorfindel]

2. You are completely right, Yavin4. The Repukes never change. "Never apologize; never explain"

is their motto. We need another Franklin D. Roosevelt. This is an excerpt from his speech at Madison Square Garden 10/31/1936:

"We had to struggle with the old enemies of peace--business and financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, class antagonism, sectionalism, war profiteering.

They had begun to consider the Government of the United States as a mere appendage to their own affairs. We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.

Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me--and I welcome their hatred."