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E-mail Al Franken (Original Post) babylonsister Dec 2017 OP
And Say He Should Follow The Standard Set By Former Dean of the U.S. House & Representative... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #1
HE should NOT resign or retire !!! trueblue2007 Dec 2017 #8
Sorry, but the New Due Process Standard is #Retire or #Resign.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #9
there is NO New Due Process Standard trueblue2007 Dec 2017 #20
Sorry, but the New Due Process Standard is #Retire or #Resign.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #22
Again, person. New Due Process Standard is #Retire or #Resign Sucks. AND YOU ARE WRONG. trueblue2007 Dec 2017 #97
He does not need to retire! Lonestarblue Dec 2017 #106
Tomorrow....Tomorrow....We Find Out, Tomorrow... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #138
john conyers was showing up to events in his pjs questionseverything Dec 2017 #141
Links Please..... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #142
no pictures but it has been reported and not denied questionseverything Dec 2017 #147
Uh Huh.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #151
lawd do you think if the nyt was reporting conyers in pjs and it wasn't true,he wouldn't of said so questionseverything Dec 2017 #157
So, You Are #JohnConyers Medical Doctor.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #159
ok so what other reason is there? questionseverything Dec 2017 #167
Now, you MIGHT be Slandering a Private Citizen.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #169
Who is the we shit Egnever Dec 2017 #148
horse shit Egnever Dec 2017 #145
Umm....Al Franken Admitted To This.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #149
twisted logic admitting to a photo in bad taste equals settling sexual harassment charges Egnever Dec 2017 #150
So, Let's This This Straight.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #153
Yea lets get it straight Egnever Dec 2017 #158
Wow, You're Upset We See.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #162
As many times as you respond Egnever Dec 2017 #164
As I suspected you shut right up when it was pointed out you are kicking a pro Franken thread. Egnever Dec 2017 #176
Popcorn! Egnever Dec 2017 #180
Are you unfamiliar of the accusations against Conyers? Quite. Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #160
Repeat repeat repeat... lame54 Dec 2017 #173
Since this matter is spiral ling out of control..Franken RestoreAmerica2020 Dec 2017 #33
If the right gets away with this, PatSeg Dec 2017 #85
Dems dont know how to fight back, defend as a RestoreAmerica2020 Dec 2017 #197
I appreciate your rant PatSeg Dec 2017 #199
Correct DaDeacon Dec 2017 #103
Huh? tmaynardr Dec 2017 #41
Justice Demands.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #46
Bullshit. BlueIdaho Dec 2017 #64
Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #67
Dont waste my time with your amateur psychology BlueIdaho Dec 2017 #78
This Right Here.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #102
Woman you are out of line HelenWheels Dec 2017 #100
Damn straight!!!! Kimchijeon Dec 2017 #118
He Likely Will.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #123
Damn right. PatrickforO Dec 2017 #144
Are you sure you are on the correct site for that pronouncement? shraby Dec 2017 #52
Why Not? LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #125
He had due process and paid off the claim Egnever Dec 2017 #152
Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #155
such a weak attempt Egnever Dec 2017 #163
Absolutely!!! Alice11111 Dec 2017 #13
He is NOT "innocent until proven guilty" FBaggins Dec 2017 #63
No!!! RW set up. He should not resign. Deserves investigation. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #12
Sorry, but the New Due Process Standard is #Retire or #Resign.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #18
You advocate for No Due Process! Read the US Constitution. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #29
Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #76
Don't you see what you are saying? ollie10 Dec 2017 #30
John Conyers was forced to #Resign.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #48
Not ignoring it. ollie10 Dec 2017 #58
John Conyers has ALREADY #Resign... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #69
Separate issue ollie10 Dec 2017 #71
Here's a Twisted Preztel for You Too... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #73
Well, thanks for the pretzel! ollie10 Dec 2017 #80
Exactly! +100 Duppers Dec 2017 #83
But, An Action Cannot Be Taken Back -- After It Is Done.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #84
2 wrongs do not 1 right make.... ollie10 Dec 2017 #88
Two Rights.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #90
So you are now saying Conyers resigning right? ollie10 Dec 2017 #91
Your Playing Games And Frankly... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #92
Thanks for the pretzel! ollie10 Dec 2017 #93
No, he should not. sinkingfeeling Dec 2017 #43
Yes, He Should... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #50
And I will be resigning, after 50+ years, as a Democrat. You can sinkingfeeling Dec 2017 #61
Okay.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #68
And straight you go BlueMTexpat Dec 2017 #104
Guess You Are Placing... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #105
You seem to be under the delusion that women never lie. Mr. Evil Dec 2017 #139
It's Called If John Conyers Was Forced To Resign.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #140
Take the blinders off. Mr. Evil Dec 2017 #143
They Are Off... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #146
The racist card?! Really?!!! Mr. Evil Dec 2017 #154
Well, Did You Just Say That.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #156
Are you high? Mr. Evil Dec 2017 #161
Color.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #166
Look stupid, learn the meaning of projection before you accuse me of it. Mr. Evil Dec 2017 #172
And this is an attack... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #174
I'm much more concerned with the obvious railroading Mr. Evil Dec 2017 #192
The best part about this troll Egnever Dec 2017 #170
DJT Syndrome. Mr. Evil Dec 2017 #171
no he shoud not. will you stop saying that. GO THRU AN INVESTIGATION trueblue2007 Dec 2017 #122
He should follow the lead of the President of the United States. Farmer-Rick Dec 2017 #135
I called, emailed etc Kimchijeon Dec 2017 #2
My eamil exactly. All caps and Exclamation mark. (nt) question everything Dec 2017 #5
Al Franken's email: scipan Dec 2017 #181
"I await the truth." That should be the message to everyone. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #3
I would love to have someone like Franken as my Senator but walkingman Dec 2017 #4
Vote for Beto. Nothing to lose. BannonsLiver Dec 2017 #127
That will definitely happen. walkingman Dec 2017 #200
done lapfog_1 Dec 2017 #6
Done Cary Dec 2017 #7
I have emailed and called twice. Email or call Alice11111 Dec 2017 #10
Done! montanacowboy Dec 2017 #11
Yep. I'm hearing from Dems everywhere who just can't Alice11111 Dec 2017 #15
Exactly. moondust Dec 2017 #14
He should. Let him know. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #17
Email sent! Do not resign. Let the ethics committee do their job. Guilded Lilly Dec 2017 #16
Done. NT Ilsa Dec 2017 #19
Done IADEMO2004 Dec 2017 #21
Email sent Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #23
Done! KT2000 Dec 2017 #24
Yes! Thank you. nt diva77 Dec 2017 #25
Email of 100% support sent!! beaglelover Dec 2017 #26
Keep Calling Horizens Dec 2017 #27
kick Dawson Leery Dec 2017 #28
Sent email softfls Dec 2017 #31
i emailed and called the dc office & left a message orleans Dec 2017 #32
Done and done ellie Dec 2017 #34
I tried to email and got this.... spanone Dec 2017 #35
me too - error msg rsong71 Dec 2017 #54
I did as well, but when I tried again it worked. LakeArenal Dec 2017 #59
must be high traffic.... spanone Dec 2017 #79
My email just went through. Maybe because I said no reply necessary? n/t More_Cowbell Dec 2017 #117
And phone: no_hypocrisy Dec 2017 #36
Done from Portlandia! Kittycow Dec 2017 #37
Same. snort Dec 2017 #42
And/Or Call Al Franken at (202)224-5641 democratisphere Dec 2017 #38
Sent email asking him not to resign until ethics investigation is completed. nt jalan48 Dec 2017 #39
Done panader0 Dec 2017 #40
Called and emailed Franken to stand his ground. sinkingfeeling Dec 2017 #44
Done! SweepPicker Dec 2017 #45
Done! nt OBrien Dec 2017 #47
Done n/t madamvlb Dec 2017 #49
I called Gillibrand's office and told her to issue a new statement no_hypocrisy Dec 2017 #51
This has me wondering if she wanted him gone marlakay Dec 2017 #137
Sent! shraby Dec 2017 #53
I tried to email with the above adress, it did not work... Stuart G Dec 2017 #55
I decided to follow up my email with a call, but all phones are busy. planetc Dec 2017 #56
Thanks! lark Dec 2017 #57
Done! nt scarletwoman Dec 2017 #60
Did it! Hope he can hang tough. peequod Dec 2017 #62
I tried, but it wouldn't let me. Behind the Aegis Dec 2017 #65
take out the '&'s and try it again. scipan Dec 2017 #182
Done lunamagica Dec 2017 #66
I already did. Stonepounder Dec 2017 #70
Done! nt chowder66 Dec 2017 #72
I have NEVER done this before, I just sent an email telling him how important he is in the Senate. George II Dec 2017 #74
Just Called His Office erpowers Dec 2017 #75
Franken needs to suck it up. It's probably stressful, but he should have expected this kind of C Moon Dec 2017 #77
I sent my email, too janterry Dec 2017 #81
Email sent. BlueIdaho Dec 2017 #82
Also call one of zentrum Dec 2017 #86
I did. This is what I sent him DFW Dec 2017 #87
Done lady lib Dec 2017 #89
I emailed him asking that he NOT RESIGN iluvtennis Dec 2017 #94
I've already sent two. Thanks for posting the link for everyone else. Mr. Evil Dec 2017 #95
Great idea. Done! ffr Dec 2017 #96
Too late... brooklynite Dec 2017 #98
Read to the end of the article. Franken's office says he hasn't decided to resign. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2017 #114
Site seems to have crashed now Moral Compass Dec 2017 #99
Done pangaia Dec 2017 #101
I just did. argyl Dec 2017 #107
Written and Sent! peggysue2 Dec 2017 #108
Me too, and my Senators. MrModerate Dec 2017 #109
Done! Duppers Dec 2017 #110
I called his DC office this afternoon and left a message dflprincess Dec 2017 #111
I tried Alliepoo Dec 2017 #112
Please try again. He needs your support. scipan Dec 2017 #184
Kicking and recommending. There's still time to sway their decision. ffr Dec 2017 #113
Couldn't use the link canetoad Dec 2017 #115
Thanks sent! angstlessk Dec 2017 #116
I emailed my support. bench scientist Dec 2017 #119
I did email at the adress, and it got through...thank you posting... Stuart G Dec 2017 #120
phone number ?????? trueblue2007 Dec 2017 #121
Email down for maintenance. Will try again later but evidently justhanginon Dec 2017 #124
Bookmarking this thread.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #126
Done ornotna Dec 2017 #128
It took several tries, but done and done! 100% support a full investigation and for him NOT Grown2Hate Dec 2017 #129
Done! The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2017 #130
Done! smirkymonkey Dec 2017 #131
Done n/t GaryCnf Dec 2017 #132
Done! Mme. Defarge Dec 2017 #133
Done still_one Dec 2017 #134
Done womanofthehills Dec 2017 #136
Done infullview Dec 2017 #165
done! flamingdem Dec 2017 #168
Done lame54 Dec 2017 #175
#metoo - done! scipan Dec 2017 #177
NOT working for me right now. LenaBaby61 Dec 2017 #178
Just emailed him and it was transmitted. sprinkleeninow Dec 2017 #183
Just emailed him and it was transmitted. LenaBaby61 Dec 2017 #185
I hear ya. sprinkleeninow Dec 2017 #190
Thank you for the link PossiblePasts Dec 2017 #179
Kick dalton99a Dec 2017 #186
Done Leighbythesea Dec 2017 #187
Welcome to DU, Leighbythesea! Rhiannon12866 Dec 2017 #191
Thanks Rhiannon! Leighbythesea Dec 2017 #193
Hey there! Egnever Dec 2017 #194
Thanks for the greeting Leighbythesea Dec 2017 #201
done! renate Dec 2017 #188
KICKING elleng Dec 2017 #189
K&R! Already did this morning! KPN Dec 2017 #195
Done. Blue Owl Dec 2017 #196
Done and done. RealityChik Dec 2017 #198
Done and done womanofthehills Dec 2017 #202

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
1. And Say He Should Follow The Standard Set By Former Dean of the U.S. House & Representative...
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 03:45 PM
Dec 2017

John Conyers. Resign or Retire. Period!

trueblue2007

(17,230 posts)
8. HE should NOT resign or retire !!!
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 03:50 PM
Dec 2017

he has a bunch of no names who say he "did stuff"



What is wrong with you? He is innocent until proven guilty. In my WOMAN'S MIND.... he isn't guilty.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
9. Sorry, but the New Due Process Standard is #Retire or #Resign....
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 03:54 PM
Dec 2017

It was set by Former Dean of the U.S. Congress, Former Representative for over 52 Years for the Detroit, Michigan area and African-American former Elected Official, the Still Honorable John Conyers.

As Women, We Agree with John Conyers Setting of the New Standard for Harassment Due Process For Members of Congress & The Senate!!!

Deal With That...

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
22. Sorry, but the New Due Process Standard is #Retire or #Resign....
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:07 PM
Dec 2017

And Deal With It If You Don't Like It.

Al Franken, Ruben Kihuen, Blake Farenthold, Joe Barton, Donald Trump all need to #Resign or #Retire and Roy Moore should never be elected and if he is #NeverSeated. Period

Lonestarblue

(10,024 posts)
106. He does not need to retire!
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 06:28 PM
Dec 2017

I too am a woman, but I do not think allowing anonymous accusers to cause a respected senator to resign is right. How do you know that someone like Roger Stone did not hire these people to make accusations? Are they credible? No one should be forced to resign without knowing who his accusers are and whether their claims are credible. So far, there are no details unlike in Roy Moore’s case where there is a wealth of corroborating evidence. Put yourself in Franken’s place. If someone accused you of a wrong thatwas costing you your job, would you not want to know who was making the accusation? Wouldn’t you have the right to refute it if it was not true?

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
138. Tomorrow....Tomorrow....We Find Out, Tomorrow...
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:26 PM
Dec 2017

If The Democrat Party Has Two Standards. One For #JohnConyers and Another for #AlFranken. Waiting....

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
141. john conyers was showing up to events in his pjs
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:33 PM
Dec 2017

it is entirely different

getting conyers to resign was to protect him

geesh

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
142. Links Please.....
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:36 PM
Dec 2017

Waiting.....

(And just in case you are confused on the link we are asking for --- the specific picture or pictures of #JohnConyers showing up at various events in pajamas)....

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
147. no pictures but it has been reported and not denied
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:41 PM
Dec 2017
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/21/us/politics/conyers-sexual-harassment-democrats-pelosi.html

He has already handed over much of the day-to-day committee work to staff aides and other Democratic members in recent years, and has often appeared disoriented. In at least two separate occasions — once at a United Automobile Workers event in Michigan and once at a meeting of top Democrats on Capitol Hill — Mr. Conyers showed up wearing pajamas, according to two people familiar with the incidents.

///////////////////

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
151. Uh Huh....
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:47 PM
Dec 2017

So the standard is some rumors, a $27,000 Taxpayer payout (which even John Conyers admitted was wrong), never admitting to anything but the $27K --- some pajama rumors too (no pictures, no proof) -- yet, Al Franken can admit to some form of harassment and he stays.

Just trying to keep up with the Twisted Pretzel Spinning Around These Parts...

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
157. lawd do you think if the nyt was reporting conyers in pjs and it wasn't true,he wouldn't of said so
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:56 PM
Dec 2017

conyers has dementia which is a medical condition and nothing to be ashamed of but serving in congress with it can't continue



your entire premise here is wrong and gonna get conyers dragged thru the mud, please stop

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
169. Now, you MIGHT be Slandering a Private Citizen....
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:05 PM
Dec 2017

Not a lawyer or a doctor but.....what you do is on you here. Meanwhile, we are waiting until tomorrow....tomorrow...

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
145. horse shit
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:39 PM
Dec 2017

John Conyers settled a suit brought against him for sexual misconduct. Franken has done no such thing. Two completely different cases.

When Franken settles a suit against him we can talk till then your false equivalency is nonsense.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
149. Umm....Al Franken Admitted To This....
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:44 PM
Dec 2017



What did #JohnConyers admit, exactly? Nothing -- except the $27,000 Taxpayer funded severance package, yet he #Resigned anyway. So is the new standard, Color, Money or Just What Is Admitted Too and What Is Not?

Trying to keep up, around these parts.
 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
150. twisted logic admitting to a photo in bad taste equals settling sexual harassment charges
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:46 PM
Dec 2017

Twisted freaking world you live in there.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
153. So, Let's This This Straight....
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:50 PM
Dec 2017

Al Franken admits to Harassment of some form, he stays. John Conyers denies Harassment took place but admits the $27K Severance Package taxpayer-funded payout to Marlon Brown, he's forced to #Resign.

Talk about Twisted Pretzel, Cognitive Dissonance -- Both Are Strong Around These Parts Today. So....Tomorrow, Tomorrow, Let's Wait For Tomorrow, It's Less Than 24 Hours, Away....

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
158. Yea lets get it straight
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:57 PM
Dec 2017
For instance, that picture. I don't know what was in my head when I took that picture, and it doesn't matter. There's no excuse. I look at it now and I feel disgusted with myself. It isn't funny. It's completely inappropriate. It's obvious how Leeann would feel violated by that picture. And, what's more, I can see how millions of other women would feel violated by it—women who have had similar experiences in their own lives, women who fear having those experiences, women who look up to me, women who have counted on me.

Your turn now go ahead and show the admission of inappropriate touching.


I already showed you a full story on what occurred with conyers that he settled.

Franken on the other hand

I am asking that an ethics investigation be undertaken, and I will gladly cooperate.

And the truth is, what people think of me in light of this is far less important than what people think of women who continue to come forward to tell their stories. They deserve to be heard, and believed. And they deserve to know that I am their ally and supporter. I have let them down and am committed to making it up to them."

Not even the same ballpark.

You need to work on your trolling skills cause what you are trying to push doesn't even begin to sound plausible.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
162. Wow, You're Upset We See....
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:00 PM
Dec 2017

Claim Down. Tomorrow is just less than 24 Hours away. How many times you have to be told the same thing....

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
176. As I suspected you shut right up when it was pointed out you are kicking a pro Franken thread.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:33 PM
Dec 2017

So freaking transparent.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,435 posts)
33. Since this matter is spiral ling out of control..Franken
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:27 PM
Dec 2017

..needs to get ahead of it by using due process, lawyer up, comments only made by his lawyer; any accuser coming forward should file an assault complaint if warranted. Until then, his only statement should be: I'm not vacating my job! FULL STOP! Just a simple statement by his lawyer ..no apologies! He has sincerly apologized on numerous occassions. Enough! Basta!

Consider how eltrumpf shut his accusers up "I'll sue you" and " they're all liars". All 16 or more are lying? Anyway, repubs are better at fighting back, dems want truth and facts and we care, Franken sincerely cares if we''ve offended people...that's who we are!

Yet, that doesn't mean we dont fight back... repubs have a propaganda machine of hate and lies ..we don't; always try to stand on truth, and when we by chance make a mistake, we seek ways to self correct; have a higher ethical standard..repubs dont. As well, we don't hide behind so call fake kkkhristian standards they have. Republikkklans are hypocrites and liars!

PatSeg

(47,520 posts)
85. If the right gets away with this,
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:34 PM
Dec 2017

it will be an endless blood bath. Meanwhile, very real sexual assault and harassment will be trivialized or overlooked.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,435 posts)
197. Dems dont know how to fight back, defend as a
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:03 AM
Dec 2017

...cohesive, collective group we're to concerned about be nice, polite, professional, ethical because that's who we are. The DNC needs to hire progressive, aggressive dems that meet regularly and set taking points only they go out to represent dems... to put the lens on repubs including trumpf and every time (which is, well all the time) they spill hate and lies, spin hate propaganda, lie about their damaging, bigot ed policies . ..now, do I purport lies, hateful rhetoric, insight violence...no! Dems work on the premise of facts, truth.

There is nothing wrong wth fighting back...this when "they go low we go high " is bullshit! It sounds elitist and smug. It didn't work in 2016, won't work in 2018, 2020. Dems then go into a lengthy explanation instead of just saying "shut up you bully " When eltrumpf goes after someone say about tapping his phone...say prove it or shut the f up, of course Obama wouldn't say that, but rest assure if he had, eltrumpf would have backed off wth whimper like the coward he is...or better yet dont say a word, just sue his ass for defamation and be done with it. When Kelly stated lies, racially tinged comment about about Representative Wilson ... Wilson. And dems came out stating he needs to apologize ..still waiting--then, the Black Caucus sent letter requesting an apology ...still waiting! ...Damn it! I would have read the letter on the floor, and read transcripts of press meeting where he said hateful racially charged comments about Wilson, read transcript of actual of event in question and have of public record by reading it all on the floor of congress. Or, rather than all that...not say a word, not ask, beg for apology.. .don't give notice to anyone ..just go straight to court and sue Kelly for defamation and demand a public apology, sue for damages to be sent to a black college..... I wouldn't settle for anything less..

Either of my suggestions...calls these bullies out, gets into a formal public setting, of public record.

Sorry, for length, and if you've read to this point... thanks for allowing me to rant!

Ps. Sorry didn't edit. Do you see how we' re always apologizing, self correcting... providing a long,extensive explanation ..aye! I need to practice what I preach! (aye: hurt/painful; that hurts my alma or Corazon; can't take it any more; can't believe it; a sigh of, for whatever... aye is usually followed by dios ...aye dios. On God! Anyway have a good Night!

PatSeg

(47,520 posts)
199. I appreciate your rant
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:40 AM
Dec 2017

Many of us were extremely upset with Democrats in congress yesterday. I like being part of a party that is polite, reasonable, and honest. I certainly don't want Democrats to behave like republicans, but I agree that they need to fight back more. The Democratic party used to be the tough party, very street smart and combative, as it represented the working class. I certainly don't want to go back to the Richard Daley type Democats, but we could toughen up and stop eating our own.

You are right about the "always apologizing" and "self correcting". If we believe in something, we should stand our ground and not let the bullies win time and time again. Republicans see our integrity as weakness, we need to make it our strength.

I hope your morning is a bit better!

tmaynardr

(31 posts)
41. Huh?
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:39 PM
Dec 2017

The accusations against Senator Sanders include the claim that he squeezed a woman's waist while she leaned in to take a picture with him. Put all the accusers under oath and let them testify. Justice demands it!

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
46. Justice Demands....
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:46 PM
Dec 2017

The #Resign or #Retire standard set by the Former Dean of the U.S. House and Former Representative for over 52+ Years, the STILL HONORABLE John Conyers.

Al Franken needs to #Resign or #Retire -- along with Joe Barton, Ruben Kihuen, Blake Farenthold and Donald Trump!

Response to BlueIdaho (Reply #64)

HelenWheels

(2,284 posts)
100. Woman you are out of line
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 06:05 PM
Dec 2017

Franken does not have to resign or retire. He MUST stay in the Senate and not let the phony accusers get away with slandering him.

PatrickforO

(14,582 posts)
144. Damn right.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:37 PM
Dec 2017

This is a right wing frame-up.

What pisses me off is all these 'courageous' Democratic Senators and Reps calling on Franken to resign are SILENT on Roy Moore and Trump. This doesn't wash, and if the Dems want a major backlash from the base on this just keep on going.

Response to Egnever (Reply #152)

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
163. such a weak attempt
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:01 PM
Dec 2017
In 2014, the woman filed a complaint with Congress’s Office of Compliance. The legislature does not have a human-resources department, and instead the Office of Compliance uses a lengthy procedure to address alleged violations of various employment rules. The Washington Post reports that the office has paid more than $17 million for 264 settlements and awards to federal employees since 1997.

The complaint includes four signed affidavits from other former Conyers staff members who said this was no isolated incident. One former staffer reported witnessing a “variety of inappropriate sexual advances” from Conyers, directed toward herself and other female staff members. Another former staffer said, “I was asked on multiple occasions to pick up women and bring them to Mr. Conyers apartments, hotel rooms, etc.”

A male employee said he saw Conyers rubbing the complainant’s legs and other body parts “in what appeared to be a sexual manner,” and saw him doing the same with other women. The employee said he warned Conyers to be “more careful” and Conyers said he would “work on” his behavior. Then the employee set up a December 2011 meeting to discuss “mistreatment of staff and his misuse of federal resources.” The affidavit says Conyers agreed to make improvements, “as long as I worked directly with him and stopped writing memos and emails about concerns.”


The claims against Franken are not even in the same universe.

FBaggins

(26,749 posts)
63. He is NOT "innocent until proven guilty"
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:59 PM
Dec 2017

He is either innocent or he is guilty... and HE knows which one is true.

If he's guilty... then he should resign.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
18. Sorry, but the New Due Process Standard is #Retire or #Resign....
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:05 PM
Dec 2017

The Ethics Investigation Process in the U.S. House and U.S. Senate is flawed. That is why Former U.S. Dean of the House and Former Representative John Conyers was forced to #Resign. Al Franken needs to either #Resign or #Retire and follow the standard set by John Conyers.

Along with:
Ruben Kihuen, Blake Farenthold, Joe Barton, Donald Trump all need to #Resign or #Retire and Roy Moore should never be elected and if he is #NeverSeated. Period

Response to LovingA2andMI (Reply #18)

 

ollie10

(2,091 posts)
30. Don't you see what you are saying?
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:23 PM
Dec 2017

Conyers resigning apparently proves he is guilty.....?

So if Franken does resign....the Rs are going to say that proves Franken is guilty!!!!

It will not give the Democratic Party any high ground for him to resign, it will simply give the Republicans more ammunition!

What we have is a set-up, period!

As to Conyers, that was his to decide. As for Franken, he needs to stand up to be counted and so should Democrats.

Roger Stone is laughing

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
48. John Conyers was forced to #Resign....
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:47 PM
Dec 2017

And it's easy as making whipped cream pie to understand what we are saying. You are choosing to ignore it.

 

ollie10

(2,091 posts)
58. Not ignoring it.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:54 PM
Dec 2017

Maybe you should make a case for or against Conyers resigning?

It really is a separate issue from Franken.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
69. John Conyers has ALREADY #Resign...
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:09 PM
Dec 2017

And a case was made for #DueProcess for him many, many, many times on this forum --- however, its amazing how the only threads that were made for Due Process for John Conyers were largely done by African-Americans. Why is that so? Who knows...

 

ollie10

(2,091 posts)
71. Separate issue
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:14 PM
Dec 2017

Maybe Conyers should not have resigned. You could make a case for him going to the investigation instead of resigning and I would not argue.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
73. Here's a Twisted Preztel for You Too...
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:17 PM
Dec 2017

As Wherever You Are All Over This Issue, Surely Needs One (Or It Maybe Just About Race i.e. John Conyers and Al Franken -- Who Knows ) but, either way...Twisted Pretzel is on its way...

 

ollie10

(2,091 posts)
80. Well, thanks for the pretzel!
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:26 PM
Dec 2017

But I think what you are trying to say is that you don't think Conyers should have resigned. Fair enough.

What you also seem to be implying is that because Conyers did resign, therefor Franken should resign.

Sorry, but I don't see how one follows from the other.

It would be more logical, if you don't believe Conyers should have resigned, for you to argue that Franken should not have either.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
84. But, An Action Cannot Be Taken Back -- After It Is Done....
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:32 PM
Dec 2017

And You Might Have Missed The Large Rally Where Citizens in #JohnConyers District Indeed Called Loudly and Boldly For #DueProcess -- before he #Resigned.

Detroit (CNN)Supporters of Democratic Rep. John Conyers of Michigan gathered in the sanctuary of a Detroit church Monday morning to urge national leaders like House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi to grant Conyers full due process under the law.

Conyers is embroiled in controversy after multiple women alleged that the congressman -- the longest currently serving member of the US House of Representatives -- had sexually harassed them when they worked for him. The entire House Democratic leadership has called for Conyers to step down, but he has denied any wrongdoing.

The congressman was admitted to a hospital late last week for shortness of breath, dizziness and other symptoms, according to his attorney Arnold Reed. Conyers did not attend the rally this morning, which was organized by Michigan state Democratic Rep. Sherry Gay-Dagnogo.

Approximately 40 state and community leaders, including politicians and pastors, stood before an enthusiastic crowd of community members, chanting phrases like "due process" and "no justice, no peace" along with the speakers.

Many of the speakers emphasized that they did not discount the allegations the women had made against Conyers but wanted him to be treated fairly. Pastor Warren Evans told the crowd that his call for due process and a full investigation "has nothing to do with being pro-John or against women's rights."

"This is about doing what's right," he said.

The speakers pointed to what they felt is harsher treatment of Conyers than the reaction to sexual harassment allegations against Sen. Al Franken, a Minnesota Democrat, and other lawmakers.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/04/politics/john-conyers-support-rally/index.html

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
92. Your Playing Games And Frankly...
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:50 PM
Dec 2017

It's Making You Look Less Like A Twisted Preztel and More Like The Latter We Alluded To Above (Catch Up A Couple Of Threads Above). Conyers has #Resigned Already and Al Franken #ShouldToo. #DealWithIt....

Have A Wonderful Day (or Tomorrow)...

sinkingfeeling

(51,464 posts)
61. And I will be resigning, after 50+ years, as a Democrat. You can
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:55 PM
Dec 2017

have the cowardly 26 Senators, because thst will be the largest number the DNC will ever see in the Senate again.
Al Franken will go down as another victory for the GOP, just like ACORN and Planned Parenthood. They will be slapping Trump and Moore on the back and rolling around laughing.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
105. Guess You Are Placing...
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 06:25 PM
Dec 2017

Chuck Schumer There Too, Huh..... Or Maybe Just The Associated Press For Reporting on This...


Mr. Evil

(2,851 posts)
139. You seem to be under the delusion that women never lie.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:26 PM
Dec 2017

In my personal experience throughout this life I've learned that women can be just as corrupt, vile and disgusting as men. I guarantee you I could walk out my door right now, flash some cash and get any number of men to say Mitch McConnell sexually harassed and/or assaulted them years ago... anonymously. I could get women to claim Kirsten Gillibrand is a sadistic lesbian. People lie for any number of reasons. Money, score to settle, personal empowerment, desperation, anything.

Enjoy your ride on the Destroy Al Franken bandwagon.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
140. It's Called If John Conyers Was Forced To Resign....
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:27 PM
Dec 2017

What Makes Al Franken Different, Bandwagon. Get the bandwagon's named correctly. Thanks!

Mr. Evil

(2,851 posts)
143. Take the blinders off.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:37 PM
Dec 2017

John Conyers actually paid that accuser with tax-payer money. That was wrong. He's also 88 years old and in failing health. Al Franken's two known accusers accounts are disingenuous at best and outright lies at worst. The five anonymous accusers are bullshit and don't count. So, he shouldn't have his say? He doesn't have a right to confront his accusers? He's a thorn in republican's sides and he's possibly seen as an obstacle instead of an ally in the presidential pursuits of Gillibrand and Harris in 2020. But, I guess you'd be ok if someone at your work accused you of grabbing them just so you'd get fired and they get to move into your old job.
You should stop being obtuse and try some critical thinking.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
146. They Are Off...
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:39 PM
Dec 2017

What about yours and specifically, is the difference in your "Standards" of #Resignation Color or just Party Affiliation? Like Black and White? Also, please detail your thoughts on Ruben Kihuen? What about Blake Farenthold or Joe Barton?

Mr. Evil

(2,851 posts)
154. The racist card?! Really?!!!
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:53 PM
Dec 2017

Blake Farenthold also used public funds to hush is accuser. Joe Barton is a scumbag from way back. And to text dick pics... please. No comparison. Sen. Franken has a lifetime of working around women and not one of them has ever said anything even remotely close to him exhibiting this kind of behavior. Ever! He has 36 women from his years at SNL and another 14 from his campaign and office staff that have refuted these charges by stating unequivocally that he treated them with respect and was always advocate for women and women's issues.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/11/19/14-female-staffers-al-franken-treated-respect-champion-women.html

http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/21/media/snl-women-al-franken/index.html

Mr. Evil

(2,851 posts)
161. Are you high?
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:59 PM
Dec 2017

You're the one who asked me if my thoughts were based on "color" or "party affiliation." How the fuck is that projection?

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
166. Color....
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:03 PM
Dec 2017

Let's See The Definitions on That...

Definition of color

1 a : a phenomenon of light (such as red, brown, pink, or gray) or visual perception that enables one to differentiate otherwise identical objects

b (1) : the aspect of the appearance of objects and light sources that may be described in terms of hue, lightness, and saturation (see saturation 4) for objects and hue, brightness, and saturation for light sources the changing color of the sky; also : a specific combination of hue, saturation, and lightness or brightness comes in six colors (2) : a color other than and as contrasted with black, white, or gray

2 a : an outward often deceptive show : appearance His story has the color of truth.
b : a legal claim to or appearance of a right, authority, or office
c : a pretense offered as justification : pretext the color for his action
d : an appearance of authenticity : plausibility lending color to this notion

3 : complexion tint:
a : the tint characteristic of good health
… sat looking at her with wistful eyes, trying to see signs of hope in the faint color on Beth's cheeks. —Louisa May Alcott
b : blush

4 a : vividness or variety of effects of language
… that color and force of style which were later to make him outstanding among American editors … —Arthur Krock
b : local color

5 a : an identifying badge, pennant, or flag —usually used in plural a ship sailing under Swedish colors
b : colored clothing distinguishing one as a member of a particular group or representative of a particular person or thing —usually used in plural a jockey wearing the colors of the stablewore his college colors to the game

6 a colors plural : position as to a question or course of action : stand
… the USSR changed neither its colors nor its stripes during all of this … —Norman Mailer
b : character, nature —usually used in plural showed himself in his true colors

7 a : the use or combination of colors
b : two or more hues employed in a medium of presentation movies in color

8 colors plural
a : a naval or nautical salute to a flag being hoisted or lowered
b : armed forces

9 : vitality, interest The play had a good deal of color to it.

10 : something used to give color : pigment

11 : the quality of timbre in music the color and richness of the cello

12 : skin pigmentation especially other than white characteristic of race a person of color

13 : a small particle of gold in a gold miner's pan after washing

14 : analysis of game action or strategy, statistics and background information on participants, and often anecdotes provided by a sportscaster to give variety and interest to the broadcast of a game or contest a color commentator

15 : a hypothetical property of quarks that differentiates each type into three forms having a distinct role in binding quarks together.

Per Merriam-Webster, There Are SO Many.....https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/color


Again, Projecting Much...

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
174. And this is an attack...
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:16 PM
Dec 2017

First, We're Drunk, Now We're Stupid and you are being Reported.....(More Likely Than Not, Nothing Will Occur, But We Are Going To See Regardless).

Mr. Evil

(2,851 posts)
192. I'm much more concerned with the obvious railroading
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 11:10 PM
Dec 2017

of Sen. Al Franken than with the likes of you. It's because of narrow minded people like you that we lose good people like Sen. Franken.

Farmer-Rick

(10,192 posts)
135. He should follow the lead of the President of the United States.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:14 PM
Dec 2017

When Trump resigns over sexual harassment he should resign.

Until then what's good for the goose....

Kimchijeon

(1,606 posts)
2. I called, emailed etc
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 03:47 PM
Dec 2017

All manner of support we gotta speak up. SUPPORT AL!

DON'T RESIGN!!!

email, call, tweet, facebook, smoke signals, whatever we can do, let's do it.

walkingman

(7,633 posts)
4. I would love to have someone like Franken as my Senator but
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 03:48 PM
Dec 2017

not sure my fellow Texas citizens could handle anyone that is not stuck in the 1950's.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
7. Done
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 03:50 PM
Dec 2017

Thanks, sister. I am all for women standing up; it's a good thing but there is such a thing as too much of a good thing.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
10. I have emailed and called twice. Email or call
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 03:56 PM
Dec 2017

the Senators falling prey to the lynch mob mentality that want to take him down without even an investigation!! Just cave right into the RW take down of false equivalencies.


For the record, Christine Gillabrand, who I have raised a lot of money for, you cannot get through to. Her phone is perpetually busy. Hiding, I presume. I have raised money for most of these Senators in close races. This is a travesty not to be forgotten. She jumped out front and led the charge.
Would she put half as much effort to fighting the tax bill.

Franken is maybe our best Senator and he deserves a full investigation!!!

moondust

(19,993 posts)
14. Exactly.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:03 PM
Dec 2017

If Sen. Franken honestly thinks he's being railroaded he could do the whole country a favor by forcing an investigation to go forward which could prove a dirty little conspiracy of false accusations for all to see.

 

Horizens

(637 posts)
27. Keep Calling
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:18 PM
Dec 2017

I called twice. The line and mail box were full. I will keep calling until I get through. CALL, let him know he has support.

orleans

(34,062 posts)
32. i emailed and called the dc office & left a message
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:25 PM
Dec 2017

omg! i can't believe this!
and i just heard on the radio there is a group of 18 dem senators calling for him to resign???
what the fuck is going on???
who did he sexually molest?
maybe i missed something but what the fuck is happening????

rsong71

(38 posts)
54. me too - error msg
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:52 PM
Dec 2017

I created an email msg "no resignation without investigation" and got the same error msg. Must be overwhelmed by emails?

Kittycow

(2,396 posts)
37. Done from Portlandia!
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:31 PM
Dec 2017

Make of it what you will, but I'm tired of Democratic leaders rolling over. GOP members stay the course no matter what! That's probably part of their appeal.

Back to watching dog rescue videos.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
38. And/Or Call Al Franken at (202)224-5641
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:31 PM
Dec 2017

If the lines are busy, please leave Al Franken a voicemail message of support. We need Al Franken! Thanks!

no_hypocrisy

(46,133 posts)
51. I called Gillibrand's office and told her to issue a new statement
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:49 PM
Dec 2017

indicating that Franken should resign if the Ethics Committee finds something substantive.

marlakay

(11,479 posts)
137. This has me wondering if she wanted him gone
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:23 PM
Dec 2017

Because both their names have been floated for running for President next time.

planetc

(7,820 posts)
56. I decided to follow up my email with a call, but all phones are busy.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:53 PM
Dec 2017

Sen. Franken's Washington office goes straight to voicemail, and all the branch offices are busy. I hope they're all deluged with instructions not to resign.

Behind the Aegis

(53,963 posts)
65. I tried, but it wouldn't let me.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:03 PM
Dec 2017

I wanted to send:

Dear Senator Franken,

I want you to do what is right for you, your family, and the people of your state, and I hope the "right thing" is for you to announce a FULL INVESTIGATION and NOT your resignation.

Sir, if these charges are true, then you must take your lumps, but, if they are not true, then what JUSTICE is served by you leaving the situation before it can be properly vetted? If these allegations are nothing more than a vendetta against you, the Democratic party, and the people of the US, then you would do your constituents and the people of the US a great DISSERVICE by prematurely resigning. It would also be a set back to the #metoo movement if lies and false allegations become mixed in with the cries of real victims.

I wish you the best and hope you do the right thing and justice prevails.

Also, as a side note, with the "titles" selection, since it is 2017 and marriage equality is the law of the land (for now), how's about "Mr. & Mr." and "Ms. & Ms." and "Mrs. & Mrs."


but the fucking system told me I had a "possible security threat" in my message:

Your submitted request contained a potential security risk.

Please try your submission again using natively composed plain text (not copied and pasted from another document), with few or no hyperlinks, or other syntax that may be interpreted as computer code (examples: '--', '&').

*As stated in the privacy policy, unauthorized attempts to upload or change information are strictly prohibited.


Oh well, likely to fall on deaf ears at this point.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
70. I already did.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:11 PM
Dec 2017

We NEED Senators like Al Franken and I told him so. Haul him up before an Ethics hearing. Expel him if he's done something bad enough to warrant it. But - he absolutely should NOT resign!

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
75. Just Called His Office
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:20 PM
Dec 2017

I called his office a few minutes ago. I expressed my support for him and asked him not to resign until he is proven guilty or until he finishes his term. There might be a large amount of calls going into his office because apparently all the office lines were busy and I had to leave a message. Hopefully, he is getting a large amount of support in those calls.

C Moon

(12,218 posts)
77. Franken needs to suck it up. It's probably stressful, but he should have expected this kind of
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:23 PM
Dec 2017

thing going into running for politics.
He's needed where he is; to drop out now because of GOP pressure is ludicrous.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
82. Email sent.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:27 PM
Dec 2017

Until Democrats learn to respect everyone’s due process rights they are no good to me as a party and I won’t give them a god damn dime. I told them so - not only at the DNC but also the DSCC.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
86. Also call one of
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:41 PM
Dec 2017

...the Senators who are asking him to quit. It's tragicaly premature.

I just called Gillibrand: 202-224-4451.
Or her NYC office: 212-688-6262

As I talked to her office aide, I got angrier and angrier. He's one our best Senators, damn it!

I stand by Al and the ethics process he's asked for.

Anonymous accusers are extremeley suspect.

DFW

(54,414 posts)
87. I did. This is what I sent him
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:41 PM
Dec 2017

Please please PLEASE do NOT resign tomorrow or even hint at it!!!

All this innuendo, and we don't even know if all these so-called accusers are even real or not! I don't care HOW many Democratic Senators are jumping on this bandwagon. Unless they know a lot of things the public doesn't, we are being taken for one enormous ride here. Go thou and do NOT do likewise, fer Pete's sake!

This is not the time to let Mitch McTurtle smile his smug smile and somehow conspire to bring back Norm Coleman from the political dead--a group that is rarely grateful, to coin a phrase.

If you are considering succumbing to the pressure tomorrow, PLEASE reconsider. If you have no plans to resign, send me some more of those folksy fundraising letters, will ya?
 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
109. Me too, and my Senators.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 06:40 PM
Dec 2017

Folks, how foolish do we have to be to not see a naked and obviously orchestrated political assassination under way?

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
110. Done!
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 06:43 PM
Dec 2017

Thank you for posting this.

I hope he knows how many of us support him and see this as a RW takedown of an innocent man.

dflprincess

(28,080 posts)
111. I called his DC office this afternoon and left a message
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 06:44 PM
Dec 2017

"ordering" him not to resign.

From what I'm hearing, rank and file DFLers are not supporting the idea he resign and very few are buying this latest accusation.

Alliepoo

(2,221 posts)
112. I tried
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 06:47 PM
Dec 2017

I just tried to use this email address to send my plea to Senator Franken to please stand strong with us and for us-that we had his back. Hit the submit button and was told that the website couldn’t be found ( or something similar) and that was it! My email was gone. I’m going to try to find another way to contact him. And after I take my little granddaughter home I’m going to start contacting the shortsighted legislators that have started this crap and let them know how I feel. Dear Lord...

bench scientist

(1,107 posts)
119. I emailed my support.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:15 PM
Dec 2017

Said let ethics investigation run its course and to resign now is premature.
It will weaponize misconduct allegations against politicians on both sides of the aisle.

Stuart G

(38,436 posts)
120. I did email at the adress, and it got through...thank you posting...
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:31 PM
Dec 2017

Yes..I told Al not to resign, but stay ...we need Al, an honest, sensitive, intelligent man. I told him to stay and hang in there for all of us..!!!!!!!!!!!

justhanginon

(3,290 posts)
124. Email down for maintenance. Will try again later but evidently
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:39 PM
Dec 2017

Senator Franken is getting a lot of emails to ask him to stay on and fight this.

ornotna

(10,804 posts)
128. Done
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:47 PM
Dec 2017

Not from Minnesota myself but the family started out there when coming over on the boat so many years ago. There are still distant relatives living there.

Grown2Hate

(2,013 posts)
129. It took several tries, but done and done! 100% support a full investigation and for him NOT
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:53 PM
Dec 2017

to resign. That must be the precedent here. FULL investigation before any HINT of a resignation. Let the chips fall where they may after that, but we're not losing this excellent Senator without at least a full inquiry.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,761 posts)
130. Done!
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:54 PM
Dec 2017

I am so pissed off at the spineless Dems in the Senate right now! I'm a Minnesota resident and I want to elect my own damn senator, thank you very much. If the Alabama voters get to elect their guy, who is a child molester, why does our senator, allegedly guilty of something not even in the same universe, get railroaded out of his job when I, who helped elect him, don't get to weigh in on it?

LenaBaby61

(6,976 posts)
178. NOT working for me right now.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:47 PM
Dec 2017

It says....

The site is under WEBSITE TEMPORARILY UNAVAILABLE DUE TO MAINTENANCE.

Normal service will return soon.



His site/the server MUST be over run with emails.

sprinkleeninow

(20,253 posts)
183. Just emailed him and it was transmitted.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:03 PM
Dec 2017

Having an extraordinarily crappy week personally so far. This supposed news just added to the crappiness.
All the nerves in my neck are locked up. But I was compelled to launch a missive to him to not resign.

LenaBaby61

(6,976 posts)
185. Just emailed him and it was transmitted.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:23 PM
Dec 2017

I'll be going back there NOW Thanks I've sent the link to buddies too, telling them to email Sen. Franken.

I have the worst headache. I just took two Tylenol. I'm definitely changing my party affiliation to Independent in January 2018. I have no use for a party who only fights now-and-then whose also so pious that they'd hang US, their constituents, out to dry because they're SO pious

Also, Dems roll over for thuglicans when thuglicans tell them to roll over. I'm also not sending Dems another dime either.

I think he'll resign because of the stampede by fellow Dems , but I'm still sending him an email of support

sprinkleeninow

(20,253 posts)
190. I hear ya.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:40 PM
Dec 2017

I'm nearing the edge of my precipice, again. Haven't toppled over so far being pulled back by my fortitude and perseverance, I gather.

I am pooped out 'tho.

Feel better my sister/brother in humanity.

I'm gonna pop an aspirin or two myself. Not a young'un anymore and I scare myself lately how I let adverse stuff take hold of me.

Peace be unto you this nite.

Leighbythesea

(92 posts)
187. Done
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:24 PM
Dec 2017

Hope everyone here emails. I've been a fan of his since the first book. This is my very first post. It will be memorable. Praying he doesnt give in.

RealityChik

(382 posts)
198. Done and done.
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 04:10 AM
Dec 2017

Although the whole exercise left me in a puddle of tears.

Like many of you, I ask all those holier-than-thou Democrats in Congress: WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE over Republican racists-pedophiles Roy Moore and Donald Trump? It's so typical that they would want to crucify one of their own over a half dozen, one-off improprieties that have yet to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

I'm about done with the Democratic Party. Without Franken, our most fearless, adept and masterful attack dog among all the jelly fish Democrats, if he resigns, we're doomed!

I'm gonna go have myself another good cry...

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