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I Believe That Democrats Just Gave Up 2018. It Will Depress The Democratic Turn Out. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Dec 2017 OP
If Franken resigns it will definitely have that affect on me. My wallet will close up for sure. beaglelover Dec 2017 #1
And it seems like a whole bunch of them are much more spineless Bettie Dec 2017 #2
Then, I will donate more. I am a longtime, consistent donor to Democrats. Blue_true Dec 2017 #10
Absolutely agree Nevernose Dec 2017 #13
Three women have now said that Franken forcibly kissed them. Blue_true Dec 2017 #15
Not accurate Nevernose Dec 2017 #18
One thing I think it will do is depress donations still_one Dec 2017 #3
Donations are already VERY depressed. This will kill them. beaglelover Dec 2017 #5
But..... LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 #4
Right: the average voter is saying: "I hate everything Trump and the Republicans are doing..." brooklynite Dec 2017 #6
Agreed. democratisphere Dec 2017 #7
I feel depressed and hopeless kcr Dec 2017 #8
No it won't. book_worm Dec 2017 #9
This is typical tea leave reading. Blue_true Dec 2017 #14
It is like the gut punches keep coming and coming as these maniacs destroy our country. libtodeath Dec 2017 #11
Apparently a lot of Democratic women in office marybourg Dec 2017 #12
I feel like avoiding DU for a few days. Ilsa Dec 2017 #16
I disagree. BigDemVoter Dec 2017 #17
Screw that! It will fire up everyone who is angry OUR people have to answer angstlessk Dec 2017 #19

beaglelover

(3,487 posts)
1. If Franken resigns it will definitely have that affect on me. My wallet will close up for sure.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:33 PM
Dec 2017

Why send spineless dems to DC. We need FIGHTERS there.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
10. Then, I will donate more. I am a longtime, consistent donor to Democrats.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:43 PM
Dec 2017

We should not coddle people that abuse other people. End of discussion.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
15. Three women have now said that Franken forcibly kissed them.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:56 PM
Dec 2017

Yes, the first was a rightwinger, but how long can some insist that the women are lying? A pattern seems to have been in place on Franken's behavior.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
18. Not accurate
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:40 PM
Dec 2017

One right wing radio show host literally repeated lines from a ten year old script; the equivalent of Vivian Leigh claiming Clark Gable forcibly kissed her.

Another anonymous woman claimed that Al Franken kissed her on the cheek, but through her psychic intuition knew that he WANTED to kiss her on the lips. On stage, with a thousand people, including his wife, both watching and filming.

And then today another anonymous woman claimed that Al Franken walked up to a total and complete stranger and then did NOT kiss her. The same woman claimed that Al Franken actually said “Entertainers are entitled to it,” a clear paraphrase of Trump’s comments from the same time period, “When you’re famous, they let you do it.”

Naturally there were no witnesses or evidence of any sort. In fact, there wasn’t even any kissing alleged, other than what was scripted and performed for years, for many audiences, with other actresses in the role, too. There was a picture offered as proof by the Hannity guest who claimed Obama was a Kenyan Muslim, but she lied about what was in the photo.

The other Democrats and liberals accused, even anonymously like Rep Kihuen — have pretty convincing evidence against them. Fire their asses. Protest their offices.

But Franken? Franken has obviously been set up, like Stone and Project Veritas have done countless times before. Democratic senators are clearly a bunch of chickenshits.

A set up like this is not hard to do, apparently, when even the people at DU haven’t actually read the accusations, just the headlines.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
4. But.....
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:35 PM
Dec 2017

Depressing African-American Turn Out for Democrats was not an issue at all with many as it related to #JohnConyers but, now since the 26 DEMOCRATIC Senators are trying to correct this asking for Al Franken to #Resign or #Retire, can you give us insight on whose turn out is going to be depressed now?

Waiting....

brooklynite

(94,635 posts)
6. Right: the average voter is saying: "I hate everything Trump and the Republicans are doing..."
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:36 PM
Dec 2017

"...but I'm really upset about what happened to a Senator in another State"

kcr

(15,317 posts)
8. I feel depressed and hopeless
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:37 PM
Dec 2017

I will never not vote Dem when it comes down to it. But this leaves me feeling so bad that I can't disagree with you. I have no will or energy left to give two shits about a party that can be so massively stupid.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
14. This is typical tea leave reading.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:47 PM
Dec 2017

People see what they want to see. I personally think that Franken resigning and the very liberal Democratic governor appointing an up and coming female politician is win-win for Democrats. We get rid of a guy that is becoming an albatross and we get more representation by women in government.

marybourg

(12,633 posts)
12. Apparently a lot of Democratic women in office
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 04:45 PM
Dec 2017

feel this is the right thing to do. (I am agnostic about it) Why are you convinced (and trying to convince others) that women not in office won't feel the same way?

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
16. I feel like avoiding DU for a few days.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:07 PM
Dec 2017

It all makes me sick.

I think the ethics committee should clean house, including sending home a bunch of Rs.

BigDemVoter

(4,153 posts)
17. I disagree.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:20 PM
Dec 2017

While I am appalled by the stupidity of those demanding Senator Franken's resignation, I am more and more disgusted by the repigs than ever. They have to go, and I'm not going to allow something like this to depress MY turnout, nor do I think it will depress any REAL Democrat's turnout either.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
19. Screw that! It will fire up everyone who is angry OUR people have to answer
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 06:42 PM
Dec 2017

to any accusation, but repugs are free to diddle even little girls!

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