If it's up to the voters in Alabama, why isn't it also up to the voters in Minnesota?

[MoonRiver]

Just asking the obvious, at least to me.

[beaglelover]

1. It should be.

[ChazII]

7. +1

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. Damn right. I'm one of them, and I want to be part of that decision.

[The_Casual_Observer]

3. That only works for republicans. They have the lock on bullshit reasoning and cheating the system.

[rainy]

31. Yep, just like stealing a supreme court seat and we just have to stand by and take it. Humiliating

sickening!

[Drunken Irishman]

4. It shouldn't be in either case?

[brooklynite]

5. The voters in Minnesota don't get a voice until 2020.

Long time to have this hanging over the Democratic caucus

[MoonRiver]

9. And Franken said he agrees to an ethics hearing.

Why the big rush?

[loyalsister]

12. Right

I guess he could resign and run against the person appointed to fill his seat next year. That might satisfy a lot of constituents, but it would be risky.

[R B Garr]

6. Nailed it! Exactly right.

Thank you.

[MoonRiver]

8. You're welcome! I've been thinking about this all day.

Thought about writing a long, irate post about Repuke hypocrisy and Dem caving. Then I said to self: Just keep it simple, stupid, lol.

[jalan48]

10. I imagine a woman would run against Franken if he stayed and ran next year.

The election would become one about gender with these allegations playing a large part in the outcome.

[angstlessk]

14. THAT is why he wants his day in court!

[jalan48]

19. I agree. I just think it would be an issue a woman could, and would, capitalize on in the primary.

Politics is a rough business.

[Lee-Lee]

11. It certainly should be

[marybourg]

13. Are you suggesting a special election in Minn.? Like a vote of

confidence? Or are you saying that the vote that put Franken in office originally is equivalent to the up-coming vote in Ala.?

[MoonRiver]

15. None of the above.

[marybourg]

20. Well then, whatever you're suggesting isn't obvious to me.

[MoonRiver]

21. I'm suggesting we wait until the voters in Minnesota choose their next Senator, UNLESS,

an ethics investigation finds him guilty of sexual harassment ( I THINK that would be the charge, but not really sure.)

Btw, a similar ethics investigation could and should be conducted against Moore, IF he wins.

[delisen]

16. Apparently Senators get to overturn the vote of mere citizens

I don't like mob rule .

[Bettie]

17. Because Al Franken is a Democrat

yeah, that's about it.

[GoCubsGo]

18. Good question.

[Duppers]

22. DAMN good point.

I sick of some DUers calling for his resignation too.

[angrychair]

23. Its not

It’s no more up to the voters in Alabama than it is to the voters in Minnesota. Not really.

They may or may not elect Moore. Voters may or may not re-elect Franken.

Once in Congress, you are supposed to be held to certain ethical standards. It’s why the Ethics Review Board exist.

Even if Moore gets elected, public perception is national, not local, and it would be unseemly and awkward for republicans not to allow a Ethics review of Moore once he is in the Senate, if elected.

His problems do not end on election night if he wins, it actually would require him to answer questions he probably doesn’t want to answer. He could likely be rejected by the Senate and Alabama would have to do it all over again ( likely with Strange back in the Senate again as Jones would have a harder time beating him).
If I had to guess that is their long term plan for dealing with Moore if he wins.

[LisaL]

24. Then why are Democrats demaning Franken resign?

He asked for an investigation. Do an investigation.

[Scruffy1]

30. The Republicans would seat the devil.

The odds of the R's not seating Moore are about zero if it a was crucial vote. They really hat Al because he's smarter than they are. I suspect they came up with the smear campaign, probably with Russian help to gibve them a bigger cushion in case they lose Alabama. I'm guessing some Democrats are willing to throw Al under the bus because the accusations make it harder not to seat Moore and the "scandal" looks bad for 2018. It's also not impssible that they were offred a bone by McConnell. You can never be too cyniical for politics. The game is all about power at any price. At the end of the day, it's Al's decision to resign or not . His fellow Dems can't force him.

[angrychair]

33. No, a Party cannot force out a member

The Senate as a body can though.

[Amaryllis]

25. It seems logic is irrelevant these days.

[Kajun Gal]

26. AMEN!

[58Sunliner]

27. Please everyone tweet, FB and call and let us roar against this BS.

[BoneyardDem]

28. I like these even handed, equitable, make sense ideas. n/t

[Bernardo de La Paz]

29. I've posted a thread: If Franken resigns he should re-offer:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029936339

[ironman25]

32. Because this country sucks

Because this country sucks and the only voices heard are the elite rich and mouth breathing assholes. I am no longer a Democrat after the 20 senators coming out against Al Franken. If this piece of shit country was as great as advertised would have examined Trump and his thugs before he could make any moves affecting the country. Our garbage legislators are worried about passing laws easing up on gun toters instead of addressing real issues. Fuck this country and all of it's legislators who for the most part are out for their own gain. My state is represented by Joe Manchin who has been very silent because he don't want to offend the hillbilly idiots or the coal mine execs.

[LenaBaby61]

34. If it's up to the voters in Alabama, why isn't it also up to the voters in Minnesota?

Because Dems are weak and scary and don't know how to pick their battles?

Or, because when thuglicans tell Dems how high to jump, most Dems say HOW HIGH?

Or, because Dems don't understand the concept of shades of gray?