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applegrove

(118,685 posts)
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:48 PM Dec 2017

CNN African American turnout in Alabama would have to be Obama turnout-like

for Jones to win. So it is technically possible. Black activists wish Jones would speak out more about his civil rights convictions and against Moore's racism. Wish them well.

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CNN African American turnout in Alabama would have to be Obama turnout-like (Original Post) applegrove Dec 2017 OP
hey they like moore's values, they will stay home or even vote for him. same choice as msongs Dec 2017 #1
Seems like they are Iliyah Dec 2017 #2
There is good reason to be optimistic about Jones' chances. oasis Dec 2017 #3
Hope you're right. Alabama's PoC are majority conservative, Hortensis Dec 2017 #16
That's true, but many of them have to resent the GOP for becoming oasis Dec 2017 #19
One question: Does 'Bama have paper ballots? Orangeutan Dec 2017 #4
Obama lost the state JI7 Dec 2017 #5
POP! applegrove Dec 2017 #6
By a lot ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #8
There are a lot of very religiously conservative african american voters AJT Dec 2017 #7
Pretty much Calculating Dec 2017 #9
Really? Is this perhaps 8% of black voters? David__77 Dec 2017 #17
There is one very common third option for people Hortensis Dec 2017 #18
I do get that many don't vote. David__77 Dec 2017 #21
Yup - AA voters have to turn out in record numbers in order to save white folks from themselves EffieBlack Dec 2017 #10
If more democrats voted regularly democrats would would win. There are applegrove Dec 2017 #13
Exactly! EffieBlack Dec 2017 #15
Yep n/t GaryCnf Dec 2017 #14
Won't happen trof Dec 2017 #11
First off GaryCnf Dec 2017 #12
I would encourage everyone here to read Joy Rieds article on this very issue Docreed2003 Dec 2017 #20
Not sure why anyone is hopeful about Alabama Awsi Dooger Dec 2017 #22

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
2. Seems like they are
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:53 PM
Dec 2017

forgetting the "youth" vote. Lets see some stats on that. Just spoke with a friend in Mobile, and he said that AAs are very charged there. Fingers crossed.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. Hope you're right. Alabama's PoC are majority conservative,
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:15 PM
Dec 2017

of course, but if only they came out and killed off what today's Alabama GOP has become for their own sake, then took a huge role in rebuilding a new conservative party that served them. Instead of too many potentially gagging at the thought of voting Democrat again and just staying home...

oasis

(49,389 posts)
19. That's true, but many of them have to resent the GOP for becoming
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:23 PM
Dec 2017

the party that has made efforts to stop them from voting.

 

ClarendonDem

(720 posts)
8. By a lot
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:01 PM
Dec 2017

Hopefully turnout will propel Jones to a win, but I can't really see a path to victory. I expect Jones to be competitive, and lose by 3-5%, but not to win. Hard to believe folks would overlook purported crimes to support their favored candidate, but certainly happened with Trump.

AJT

(5,240 posts)
7. There are a lot of very religiously conservative african american voters
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:00 PM
Dec 2017

in the deep south that vote GOP based on the abortion issue.

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
9. Pretty much
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:03 PM
Dec 2017

Even a sleazy chaser of teen girls is better than a damn satanic abortion supporter in their opinion. Being pro choice is basically an auto loss in deeply religious areas.

David__77

(23,421 posts)
17. Really? Is this perhaps 8% of black voters?
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:20 PM
Dec 2017

I don't think even 15% of black voters in the deep south routinely vote Republican.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. There is one very common third option for people
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:22 PM
Dec 2017

whose ideologies and needs cause them to turn away from both main parties.

David__77

(23,421 posts)
21. I do get that many don't vote.
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:32 PM
Dec 2017

I think that many anti-abortion religious black people would vote Democrats - I don't think many would vote for Republicans.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
10. Yup - AA voters have to turn out in record numbers in order to save white folks from themselves
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:04 PM
Dec 2017

For some reason, it always seems to fall on us to take up the slack when white folks decide to vote for sexual assaulters, pedophiles, racists, etc.

applegrove

(118,685 posts)
13. If more democrats voted regularly democrats would would win. There are
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:09 PM
Dec 2017

more of us thsn there are republucans. Maybe not in alabama. Or southern states but in the country as a whole. It is necessary for us to get everyone out to vote. You are right about that.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
15. Exactly!
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:10 PM
Dec 2017

EVERYONE needs to get out and vote - but for some reason, black voters are always expected to be the margin.

trof

(54,256 posts)
11. Won't happen
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:05 PM
Dec 2017

I wish, but I'll be surprised.
They cared about Obama.
They don't care about Jones.
And no, I can't explain it.

 

GaryCnf

(1,399 posts)
12. First off
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:08 PM
Dec 2017

It is the CAMPAIGN'S job to inspire voters.

That being said, I was just in Montgomery and I think we are going to turn out in a big way. I wish Jones had done more instead of spending so much time repeating our failed values campaign from last year but Jones came into it with tons of good will and Moore's racism is near legend. Moore is really hated.

Docreed2003

(16,863 posts)
20. I would encourage everyone here to read Joy Rieds article on this very issue
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:26 PM
Dec 2017

If Jones loses, it won’t be because of the AA vote in Alabama, it will be because of conservative white voters...the same white voters that only voted for Obama 11% in 08 and 10% in 12...AA’s only make up about 25% of the voting populace in AL.

Now, if you want to talk about Jones not adequately reaching out to the AA community that’s a different story. Yes, he should be heralded for his prosecution of those Klansmen, but he has done little to make himself known to the AA community in the form of what he will do to fight for them now. He also turned off a big segment of that community with his stupid “Confederate apologist” ad he ran on Facebook.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
22. Not sure why anyone is hopeful about Alabama
Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:48 PM
Dec 2017

Drive through those southern states and stop at one roadside coffee shop and you'll never care about any polls. The faces and conversation tell you all you need to know. Likewise the radio channels, which are a choice between religious programming or ultra right wing talk radio.

We might have a chance if this were a governor's race but in federal elections the ideological bias is too overbearing.

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