Just thought Id say this about Sen. Gillibrand

[justiceischeap]

I see she’s getting tarred and feathered on DU today (which I thought was against the rules) but it must be by people who are unfamiliar with her tireless and diligent work on the issue of sexual assault and rape.

To survivors of rape and assault, she is seen as a champion.

So how does a champion ignore the Franken matter? She doesn’t. She clings to the only thing she’s got—her integrity on this very issue. Otherwise, she’s a piss poor champion for sexual assault survivors.

[BootinUp]

1. She doesnt know a scam when she

Sees one apparently. Nt

[Bettie]

8. HEY! She's going to be rich as soon

as that Nigerian prince is able to get his accounts sorted out!

[pnwmom]

15. And the 13 other Democratic women in the Senate don't either, and none of them

could possibly know -- in person -- the former Democratic Congressional Aide who made the last complaint.

[BootinUp]

16. The one who was groped on her waist?

Give me a fucking break. She’s upset because Al gave her cooties. No that’s not it, she’s upset about politics and life in general and is lashing out blindly and stupidly.

[pnwmom]

17. No. The most recent complaint, by a former Democratic Congressional aide. n/t

[BootinUp]

22. Yeah the waist gropee. Nt

[rainy]

2. Al is not a sexual assaulterer.

[mythology]

10. If you put your hands on people in a sexual fashion without your consent you are

Franken has been accused of that by multiple women and apologized for unspecified behavior while not denying he did what he was accused of.

If he did was he is accused of, yes he has committed sexual assault. A significant amount of the Democratic caucus in the Senate seems to believe it's true.

[BannonsLiver]

13. In legal terms its closest to simple assault

You make it sound like it’s the same as rape.

[WyLoochka]

26. He didn't "deny" because he's a nice guy

He does not want to call them liars.

This is hysteria. This is why our "norm" is to take time for due process to work through.

There isn't enough time for that? Really? Gillibrand and Harris, the mob leaders, don't appear to share our normal American values.

Our values tell us to insist on due process, which allows for all the time necessary in order to make sure truth has been found and revealed.

[ProudLib72]

3. Then let's see some GODDAMNED PROOF!

What's wrong with transparency? I'm getting sick and tired of this line "Those senators must know something we don't". NO, I will not just take her (or anyone's) word.

[L. Coyote]

31. Yep. Let's find out the teruth first.

[msongs]

4. franken agreed to a senatorial investigation but gillibrand is not ok with investigation

and due process. she is hardly getting tarred and feathered. btw gotta link to her calling for trumps resignation since she is such a champion?

[flamingdem]

5. She can't distinguish between sexual assault and possibly false charges of attempting a kiss

or grabbing someone's waist.

She is sorely lacking in analytical thinking ability imo

[pnwmom]

18. No, Tina Dupuy, the freelance journalist, was the one who made the claim about waist-squeezing.

I'm talking about the latest claim, by a former Democratic Congressional aide.

[flamingdem]

23. It's not close to what Moore did and we don't know the truth unless there's an investigation

They need to give him due process and not run scared

[pnwmom]

24. I agree. It's not even in the same ballpark. n/t

[kcr]

6. Not a single person who thinks they should wait for an investigation could possibly be a survivor

You're right. I guess some of us didn't get the rape and assault survivors hive-mind news letter. Thanks for letting the rest of us know.

[The_Casual_Observer]

7. She is someone who belives that she knows "the truth "

And god is on her side.

History is littered with these people.

[BannonsLiver]

11. Damn, thats good. +1

[dalton99a]

12. +1

[BannonsLiver]

9. Shes revealed herself not to be of presidential timber IMO.

None of that other stuff is going to matter if the Republicans stay in power. She has made an enormous miscalculation, though in her defense, she is not alone in that.

[kcr]

14. She can forget the nomination. That comment by the ex-Clinton aid said it all.

This was a bad move on her part.

[BannonsLiver]

19. Her comments today

I found in some ways to resemble a conservative logic.

She was bemoaning the conversations about is it assault? is it touching? is it this or that....

Oh I’m sorry senator, you mean little things like facts and due process?

[kcr]

25. I don't trust her

She has made a move toward more progressive policies, which I generally applaud because people can change and we should encourage that, especially in our politicians. But now, with her actions lately, I have to wonder if it's all just phony politics with her and she'd flip right back to her old ways if she reached the oval office.

[dlk]

20. As Much As Gillibrand Deserves Credit For Her Work on Behalf of Survivors, Her Calls for Franken's

resignation are way out of proportion in relation to what he's been accused of. The hit piece that was just published in The Atlantic was written by a woman who said Franken "groped" or squeezed her waist. Granted, it was very bad manners but doesn't rise to the level of sexual assault or rape. To say that it does discounts and minimizes the very real and horrific assaults perpetrated against women. Gillibrand can maintain her integrity and continue her good works in multiple ways outside of demanding Franken's head on a silver platter. Ultimately, I believe this would cause more harm than good.

[DonCoquixote]

21. due process

let's go ahead and say he is guilty. If we ignore a proper investigation, we might as well say "f**k the law) which let's face it, is what a Senator Moore will do.

[NanceGreggs]

27. "So how does a champion ignore the Franken matter?"

Exactly who has even suggested that she "ignore" anything?

"So how does a champion ignore the Franken matter? She doesn’t. She clings to the only thing she’s got—her integrity on this very issue. Otherwise, she’s a piss poor champion for sexual assault survivors."

Her integrity is not what this is about - Senator Franken's integrity is being questioned, NOT hers.

Her integrity is not the judge and jury here, nor does it render her qualified to act as either.

I'd say a "piss poor champion for sexual assault survivors" would be someone who doesn't bother weighing the evidence before deciding someone should pay the price for something they may never have done.

[dalton99a]

28. +1

[FuzzyRabbit]

30. +2

[jakesblues]

32. Thanks

I could not have said it better myself.

[KPN]

29. She should stick to fighting sexual assault and rape!

Instead of providing help to the enemy.