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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsKirsten Gillirbrand defended the Tobacco Industry as a young lawyer.
https://www.prwatch.org/news/2009/03/8298/secret-affair-senator-kirsten-gillibrand-and-philip-morris"The best-kept secret in the halls of Congress -- until today -- may have been the extent to which New York's new senator, Kirsten Gillibrand, helped cigarette maker Philip Morris during her former employment as an attorney with the global law firm Davis, Polk & Wardwell. Information about her relationship with the cigarette maker wasn't included in her official biography or her campaign materials, but on Friday, March 27, 2009, the New York Times published an article describing in detail how Gillibrand, under her maiden name Kirsten Rutnik, was involved at high levels in the legal affairs of Philip Morris."
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/27/nyregion/27gillibrand.html
leftstreet
(36,108 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)But no groping.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)women lost their jobs.
brooklynite
(94,591 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)She is certainly at the bottom of my list for 2020.
brush
(53,784 posts)metamorphosis as she accepted money and endorsements from Bill and Hillary Clinton when she ran for Hillary's senate seat.
IMO she bears watching, she's went after Bill Clinton recently and how has taken down another fellow Democra
Cattledog
(5,915 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)400,000 deaths every year.
woolldog
(8,791 posts)And a hypocrite.
vi5
(13,305 posts)..the question as to whether or not the world needs to hear one's feelings and opinions on that matter is another story altogether. And the question as to whether espousing those opinions does more harm or good is a separate matter.
In the interest of full disclosure I only know that Gillibrand called for Franken's resignation. I do not however know if this is because she was asked or if she felt that her opinion on the matter needed to be announced or sent out in a press release or press conference. At least for me that's a pretty big distinction as to whether someone is expressing and honest opinion when asked about a specific current event, or whether one wants to just have their name in the news and to be commended by the very serious beltway media.
Same goes for everyone else who chimed in on this. Booker, Harris, etc.
brooklynite
(94,591 posts)vi5
(13,305 posts)Nobody specifically asked her opinion on this, it was something she felt that the world needed to know.
She is absolutely entitled to do that, but conversely we can all interpret that choice however we want to.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)and then later oust a fellow Senator for doing somethings not proven, and denied...well, it's a little hypocritical, don't you think? Not that it was wrong to work for a company that had been found guilty of sex discrimination/harassment more than once. But once you've done that, it's a little disingenuous to turn around and say that people should be held accountable for unproven charges and kicked out of their elected positions for it, without proof.
Lawyers, especially, need to be cognizant of how their past representations have an effect on their current positions.
I don't think she represented PM in those discrimination/harassment lawsuits. But she represented the company for other things.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)If it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander.
Cattledog
(5,915 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Gillibrand should immediately resign. We do not need any such corporate apologist for companies that sell a product that kills 400,000 people a year.
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Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)lostnfound
(16,180 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,732 posts)and was probably assigned one of the onerous tasks new associates get stuck with: Document review and other discovery prep. I doubt that as a young lawyer she would have been responsible for managing that kind of litigation (I once worked for a large law firm and until you're a partner you don't have a damn thing to say about which clients you work for or how the litigation is handled). You do it for a client you may or may not like because it's your job. I am far more concerned with her role in bringing down Al Franken, which pisses me off greatly.
bench scientist
(1,107 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,395 posts)BootinUp
(47,162 posts)jalan48
(13,870 posts)big tobacco. We're supposed to pretend because she a woman she's more moral or ethical? That myth has just been shattered.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Cattledog
(5,915 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,732 posts)Another, better reason might be that she helped orchestrate the needless sacrifice of one of our best senators.
Cattledog
(5,915 posts)FSogol
(45,488 posts)padah513
(2,503 posts)But let's not start doing the republicans work for them. Franken is gone but somebody will come along pick up his mantle and carry it forward. Now more than ever we need to GOTV and Alabama is next in line. We can take it.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)Moore has not 'admitted' or 'apologized' for anything and even if he did - the white Republican women are leadership are courting - don't care.
I can't wait to see our democratic senators have to kiss Moore's ass. They are. Every. Single. Day.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)bagelsforbreakfast
(1,427 posts)Meowmee
(5,164 posts)And it was one of the reasons I didnt like her. But I voted for her anyway. No more.