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It's done, so we need to move beyond this as quick as possible. There are just too many issues at (Original Post) still_one Dec 2017 OP
Tired of hearing "get over it." n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #1
As am I. hamsterjill Dec 2017 #3
THIS. Atman Dec 2017 #5
That is a mischaracterization of what I said. I said we need to move beyond this to deal with the still_one Dec 2017 #9
Thank you for elaborating. Today's events give me no faith that there is a plan, rzemanfl Dec 2017 #12
There better be one, because a lot of dangerous legislation is coming down the pike from the still_one Dec 2017 #16
Unfortunately it's far from done. BannonsLiver Dec 2017 #2
EXACTLY!!! Who will the Dems TheDebbieDee Dec 2017 #8
Nope. This will continue. Freethinker65 Dec 2017 #4
U sound like a do-gooder who believes that TheDebbieDee Dec 2017 #11
More like a realist. I emailed Senator Franken in support. I remember him from Air America days Freethinker65 Dec 2017 #17
No I am not moving on. wasupaloopa Dec 2017 #6
That isn't what I said. still_one Dec 2017 #10
I'm with you njhoneybadger Dec 2017 #20
Thanks, I definitely understand the emotion and frustration with this. I am upset myself, but I am still_one Dec 2017 #21
We can walk and chew gum at the same time wasupaloopa Dec 2017 #22
It's not so easy to move njhoneybadger Dec 2017 #7
First of all I am not saying move on, I am saying we need to move beyond this. Meaning it is still_one Dec 2017 #14
No. No moving on right away. I heard Democratic senators say they asked Franken to resign Vinca Dec 2017 #13
No doubt about it, but he made the choice, which wasn't much of a choice they gave him, so what I am still_one Dec 2017 #18
Anyone who is feeling bad and forlorn I got one word for ya: MUELLER. Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #15
No. old guy Dec 2017 #19

still_one

(92,219 posts)
9. That is a mischaracterization of what I said. I said we need to move beyond this to deal with the
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:34 PM
Dec 2017

pressing issues facing us, tax reform the most imminent one, and the likelihood of cuts in Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.

"get over it" implies that I said "give up", and that is false in every respect of what I meant.

In fact we should be fighting even harder, and call for Trump's and most likely Moore being the new Senator of from Alabama's, resignation, though it is also most certain that won't go very far with the republicans controlling Congress.

and the focus on 2018 is even more critical than it has ever been


rzemanfl

(29,565 posts)
12. Thank you for elaborating. Today's events give me no faith that there is a plan,
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:38 PM
Dec 2017

or leadership, or steadfastness or anything like that.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
16. There better be one, because a lot of dangerous legislation is coming down the pike from the
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:41 PM
Dec 2017

republicans, and it puts the safety net at extreme peril

BannonsLiver

(16,396 posts)
2. Unfortunately it's far from done.
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:14 PM
Dec 2017

There will be others. The GOP has seen how easy it is, they have found a new technique, and they will exploit it to the nth degree.

Freethinker65

(10,024 posts)
4. Nope. This will continue.
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:19 PM
Dec 2017

The GOP will “have their time is the barrel”, so be prepared.

Al Franken can continue to speak out and be an advocate and perhaps even a political pundit. He can still be very effective, perhaps even more effective than his one vote in the Senate (if his seat is held in Democratic control). He can make the talk show/media circuit and will now be allowed to be less diplomatic in his biting commentary.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
11. U sound like a do-gooder who believes that
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:37 PM
Dec 2017

Good always triumphs in the end! It's a lie that pacifies you into doing NOTHING while EVIL kicks your ass!

Freethinker65

(10,024 posts)
17. More like a realist. I emailed Senator Franken in support. I remember him from Air America days
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:42 PM
Dec 2017

He was a brilliant policy wonk then, and I do not think that has changed.

He said he will continue to speak out and I have no reason to doubt that.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
10. That isn't what I said.
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:35 PM
Dec 2017

I said we need to move beyond this to deal with the

pressing issues facing us, tax reform the most imminent one, and the likelihood of cuts in Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.

"get over it" implies that I said "give up", and that is false in every respect of what I meant.

In fact we should be fighting even harder, and call for Trump's and most likely Moore being the new Senator of from Alabama's, resignation, though it is also most certain that won't go very far with the republicans controlling Congress.

and the focus on 2018 is even more critical than it has ever been

still_one

(92,219 posts)
21. Thanks, I definitely understand the emotion and frustration with this. I am upset myself, but I am
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 02:08 PM
Dec 2017

just wired that you still need to keep the eye on the ball, which is the republican agenda coming right at us

still_one

(92,219 posts)
14. First of all I am not saying move on, I am saying we need to move beyond this. Meaning it is
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:39 PM
Dec 2017

unwise to focus everything on the unfairness afforded Al Franken, and not forget the draconian republican agenda which is coming right at us


Vinca

(50,278 posts)
13. No. No moving on right away. I heard Democratic senators say they asked Franken to resign
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:38 PM
Dec 2017

because that's what the base wanted, but it seems there is a much larger number of people requesting an investigation first. Franken is being railroaded right out of office. If he's eventually vindicated - assuming there is an ethics investigation - he's pretty much screwed because they've put a label on him and pushed him out the door.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
18. No doubt about it, but he made the choice, which wasn't much of a choice they gave him, so what I am
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:46 PM
Dec 2017

saying there is little that can be done about Franken now.

As for that ethics investigation, that isn't going to happen now.

Though those Democrats who demanded Franken resignation should be demanding Trump's resignation and Roy Moore's if he is elected in Alabama, which I assume he will be.

I am very concerned about Ryan's plans to cut the social safety net, and we damn well better have a strategy to halt that

Whether it appears it or not I am very upset with those Democrats who are forcing Franken out without due process, but I am also very concerned at losing focus on stopping the republican agenda


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