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LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:33 PM Dec 2017

Germany Denounces The United States Under Trump's Leadership, Releases Historic Statement

Germany Denounces The United States Under Trump's Leadership, Releases Historic Statement

Germany’s top diplomat has just informed the United States that they no longer see the United States as the ally they once were, saying that leadership from President Donald Trump has led Europe on a path toward nuclear war.

German Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel told the Berlin Foreign Policy Forum that Germany would start to go after its own agenda, whether the U.S. likes it or not because the West was losing influence around the world now that Trump is president.

“The U.S. no longer sees the world as a global community but as a fighting arena where everyone has to seek their own advantage,” Gabriel said, according to Deutsche Welle.

“Germany can no longer simply react to U.S. policy but must establish its own position…even after Trump leaves the White House, relations with the U.S. will never be the same.”

Germany: We no longer recognize the United States as a superpower

Since taking office, Trump has attacked Germany (one of the United State’s closest allies) over Iran and North Korea, has denounced their trade surplus with us (even though it was wildly inaccurate) and accused Germany and other allies in NATO of owing vast amounts of money to the United States. We didn’t even mention the withdrawal from the Paris Climate Accord, which caused the United States to become the only major country on the planet to not be apart of the deal.

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“Germany cannot afford to wait for decisions from Washington, or to merely react to them. We must lay out our own position and make clear to our allies where the limits of our solidarity are reached,” Gabriel said in the speech, excerpts of which had been published by Sueddeutsche Zeitung ahead of time.
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Germany Denounces The United States Under Trump's Leadership, Releases Historic Statement (Original Post) LongTomH Dec 2017 OP
MAGA Freethinker65 Dec 2017 #1
You forgot the exclamation-mark. Sad. DetlefK Dec 2017 #3
Making Allied Germans Angry hatrack Dec 2017 #6
Hahaha. Not really tho. We are doomed. I want out Freethinker65 Dec 2017 #15
MASA! Towlie Dec 2017 #17
Hope so. Not overly optimistic tho Freethinker65 Dec 2017 #18
Some of this damage is going to be permanent I think. The US cannot recover from Bush and Trump. nt Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #2
This highlights the dangerous aspect of Trump's presidency. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #4
Sadly MSM (for the most part) will continue to normalize Trump. triron Dec 2017 #5
That's going to put outlets like CNN leftynyc Dec 2017 #22
Something or someone needs to get that incompetent psychopath fucker out of office. Lil Missy Dec 2017 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Dec 2017 #12
kick for visibility triron Dec 2017 #8
well done fucking Repigs bdamomma Dec 2017 #9
K&R... spanone Dec 2017 #10
Trump has done so much for Putin -- RandomAccess Dec 2017 #11
I would hope they'd have hung on until 2020. OnDoutside Dec 2017 #13
Germans know nm AmericanActivist Dec 2017 #14
So for the first ally in the 2nd civil war, we start in Duechland Moostache Dec 2017 #16
Understandable, but not very forgiving. lagomorph777 Dec 2017 #19
Trump supporters big deal was OTHER COUNTRIES ARE LAUGHING AT US. Now they are openly sneering at us BamaRefugee Dec 2017 #20
To the world: yellowwoodII Dec 2017 #21
Off topic. lark Dec 2017 #23
Time to deport Herr Drumpf back where his grandparents came from IronLionZion Dec 2017 #24
Germany: Even after Trump leaves "relations with the U.S. will never be the same. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2017 #25
Trump certainly knows how to decrease our international influence struggle4progress Dec 2017 #26
It's not America First, it's America Alone bigbrother05 Dec 2017 #27
Trump is a Machiavellian Isolationist. Oneironaut Dec 2017 #30
IMO, History will regard Trumps election as the point the US died as a superpower. Oneironaut Dec 2017 #28
Wow davekriss Dec 2017 #29
 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
4. This highlights the dangerous aspect of Trump's presidency.
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:45 PM
Dec 2017

He is inept and incapable when it comes to foreign policy. He has no patience for the subtlety and perseverance it requires.

What a fool Trump is.

This is really, really, really bad news. But who can blame Germany?

I sure can't.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
22. That's going to put outlets like CNN
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 04:23 PM
Dec 2017

in a bind. They have a VERY large presence oversea for their International channel. I honestly can't think of one place I've been to outside the US that didn't carry CNN International.

Lil Missy

(17,865 posts)
7. Something or someone needs to get that incompetent psychopath fucker out of office.
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 02:01 PM
Dec 2017

I knew he would start wars, and otherwise get people killed. Jesus Christ - when is someone going to act!

Response to Lil Missy (Reply #7)

bdamomma

(63,875 posts)
9. well done fucking Repigs
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 02:19 PM
Dec 2017

that is what we are now..................well done. Bannon and Putin....Mission accomplished moment.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
11. Trump has done so much for Putin --
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 02:42 PM
Dec 2017

whether by design or mere incompetent inclination.

Donald The Destroyer

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
20. Trump supporters big deal was OTHER COUNTRIES ARE LAUGHING AT US. Now they are openly sneering at us
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 04:20 PM
Dec 2017

This is better?

lark

(23,105 posts)
23. Off topic.
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 04:36 PM
Dec 2017

I am surprised you still have the Bernie avatar after his unwarranted self-serving attacks on Sen. Franken today. I, personally, have disavowed him and if he runs for president, will support any other Democrat other than him. I don't see how any progressive can support him after he helped repugs steal elections by lying about Dems.

IronLionZion

(45,457 posts)
24. Time to deport Herr Drumpf back where his grandparents came from
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 04:36 PM
Dec 2017

Germany is like a disappointed grandparent in this case. Their grandson turned out to be a real asshole.

25. Germany: Even after Trump leaves "relations with the U.S. will never be the same.
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 04:38 PM
Dec 2017

I guess Old Donnie Two Scoops was right. He has accomplished something in 10 months that all presidents since FDR haven't done--destroyed America's position as global leader. He has returned us to the isolationism of the 1920s.

And he's too stupid to realize what he's done. All he knows that when it comes to our relationship with Germany and the rest of Europe, he's "won."

Oneironaut

(5,504 posts)
30. Trump is a Machiavellian Isolationist.
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 05:17 PM
Dec 2017

It was obvious to anyone whose head wasn’t in the sand what would happen. He’s working from the “It’s still the 19th century” Alex Jones / Ron Paul playbook.

Oneironaut

(5,504 posts)
28. IMO, History will regard Trumps election as the point the US died as a superpower.
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 05:16 PM
Dec 2017

Previously regarded as sacrosanct, our election process is now open to crackpots and foreign tampering. Hold your right to vote dear, as it may be in peril very soon.

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