For everybody that's done

[Afromania]

It only gets worse from here. Leave if you wish, but understand that your choice now is for done. Just as binary as last year's election was things have become even more so. The Democrats are being stupid beyond stupid not even letting this go to investigation. The moral high ground they are taking will not matter to the voters they are chasing. Those particular voters have no scruples. They have no moral compass direction except fuck the "other" guy. They "do not care" one bit about the moral high ground because they aren't standing on grounded morals at all.

So, back to the original point. We are going to have to keep pushing the leadership from behind. That or replace them completely with those that don't need pushing. What we can't do is throw up hands and walk away because the alternative is worse, a whole lot worse. They are scared that the tide is turning and people are waking up. Look at some of the flips that have happened this year, look at how close some of the special elections have been for seats that have never been up for grabs have been. We gotta keep punching people, more and more of them are landing. Doesn't mean that everything that's being done is right, because some of it isn't. However, what we can't let their dirty tricks sway us. Every man, woman and child is this country, and probably the world, are depending on us not to.

[Renew Deal]

1. They were never really committed anyway

And they're not going anywhere

[Afromania]

4. there is no where to go anyway because we hit bedrock last november.

Gotta keep reaching and climbing, doesn't mean we aren't gonna slip every now and then. This is a slip, a great big ugly one, but we have to keep climbing.

[ebbie15644]

5. Agree

I've unfollowed, unsubscribed everyone of them. Twitter, Facebook and my emails that I never look at. I'm done sorry. We won't win with dems like this. We have no chance anyway

[Chasstev365]

6. So you know their motives and what's in all of their hearts?

[MikeydaDog]

2. Why would any true Democrat be "done". We see the results.

We are talking about peoples lives. Life and death for some. I cannot fathom the attitude that this would result in a Democrat, someone who cares about the same issues as I, as done.

Another point. What if the Democratic Party piling on was orchestrated? Doesn't it change things. If Franken said he was stepping down and they decided the leadership would come out tomorrow?What if Franken was not betrayed but it was planned? Does that matter?

[kcr]

3. Be careful not to take things too literally. Many if not most mean the leadership, or establishment

and say Dems as shorthand. That's what I mean. I'm not saying I'm just not ever going to vote ever again, or vote Repub. Heavens no. I'm just never going to defend or support the leadership like I have in the past, and I will be far more supportive of primarying their asses.

[Afromania]

8. The way things played out last year and how they have come at us. Dictates a need to take words

seriously. This is what the Republicans do and it has worked well enough they keep going to it.

[kcr]

9. People use shorthand. Always have and always will.

Dems as shorthand for the Dem party is common usage.

[Afromania]

11. ???

I meant putting the idea that there people are "done" will influence others (the media) that this is happening. It could become a talking point, it could push the Democratic leadership. Either way, we can't let it lead to reducing voter enthusiasm.

[LexVegas]

7. 1st of all..it's all talk. nt

[Afromania]

10. It's all talk until somebody listens and runs with it. The media seems more than happy to run down

Democrats when given the chance.

[Kirk Lover]

12. People are just upset right now and saying I'M LEAVING..feels good in the moment.

That is all.

[Joe941]

13. No one is done - just give them a few days to vent and get over this and they will be back.

This was a lost battle not the whole war.

[ck4829]

14. I'm done with the false government in Washington DC

The actions of the last few days have been the final straw is all.

"Oh well, at least the mass shooter didn't say Allahu Ackbar!" is not national security or providing for the common good.

Looking out for your donors isn't in the Constitution.

Making sure people just like them can get access to little blue pills while children are seeing their healthcare cut isn't the general welfare.

The government is at war... with the people who are too poor, too dark skinned, or too liberal for their liking.

This government is unconstitutional, unrepresentative, and should be declare illegitimate by the American people.

[better]

16. Allow me to reinforce your assessment...

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Our current government very clearly does not have the consent of the governed, as proven by the popular vote.
And we most certainly have seen a long train of abuses and usurpations evincing a design to reduce us under absolute despotism, specifically at the hands of a kleptocratic oligarchy.

[ismnotwasm]

15. Well Im not done

While I wish Franken would have let this go to investigation, perhaps there is a reason he didn’t that we don’t know. Two of the Senators calling for his resignation Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell are my senators from Washington state and I’m certainly not abandoning them. I’ve read their statements. I know their work, and I guarantee the Democratic Party needs them right where they are. If people are going to leave, I hope they do it soon.

I expected something like this to happen the moment #metoo became a hashtag. That we equivocate the moment a movement becomes challenging is to be expected. Franken took a fall in an atmophere attempting to call attention to a problem of behavior while simultaneously setting standards to behavior that has been present for millennia—not just decades. This isn’t new, this is ancient. (That’s not to say people haven’t “evolved”—they have) Franken, whatever the truth of extent of his behavior, did the right things, requested an inquiry, apologized, reisigned when his peers, many his FRIENDS asked him to. (Unless he’s playing a larger game, sacrificing himself in a very bold political move, which I wouldn’t put past him) even his resignation speech cannot be ignored for its political power.

So no, I’m not done. I do wish the resignation of Conyers brought about as much angst. But of course it didn’t

[Vinca]

17. I'm not "done," I'm just pissed off. Very pissed off.

I hope sometime before I die I have the pleasure to vote FOR a Democrat again rather than AGAINST a Republican.