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Kaleva

(36,312 posts)
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 04:27 PM Dec 2017

If you are very angry about the Franken situation , what are you going to do?

Are you going to post in ALL CAPS?

Are you going to follow the footsteps of MLK, Gandhi, and Cindy Sheehan and engage in peaceful civil disobedience?

Are you going to fill your posts with angry or sad emoticons?

Are you going to dedicate almost all of your disposable income and/or free time to the political fight?

What are you going to do?

Actions taken ought to match the rhetoric otherwise the rhetoric is just grandiloquent language.

Human nature being what it is, the great majority will do little because most events, whatever they may be, do not pose a direct, in your face, threat to one's person, immediate family or lifestyle. People generally don't like change or going outside of their comfort zone unless the perceived reward or threat is great enough.

It really doesn't matter to me what any of you personally do or decide to do but I am curious to find out if this event is in of itself enough to cause even just some of you to make decisions to take actions that will have a significant impact on your own lives. I don't think it is.



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If you are very angry about the Franken situation , what are you going to do? (Original Post) Kaleva Dec 2017 OP
Write to franken and tell him to make his resignation effective Fresh_Start Dec 2017 #1
Or he could "not remember" his promise to resign a la the AG..... ollie10 Dec 2017 #4
Good one. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #13
Q: "Did you or did you not agree to resign your Senate seat?" sprinkleeninow Dec 2017 #15
find a real progressive to run for NY senate? nt msongs Dec 2017 #2
2020 is coming up sooner than we think. ollie10 Dec 2017 #3
Agree and then working for alternative voices going forward. Egnever Dec 2017 #12
Agreed fallout87 Dec 2017 #20
+1, I'll end up voting for them but only after explaining their position on Franken after O'Keefe... uponit7771 Dec 2017 #21
That is a difficult question... lame54 Dec 2017 #5
Continue to look for ways to move to another country. OliverQ Dec 2017 #6
Less money greeny2323 Dec 2017 #7
It's Pretty Much Over SoCalMusicLover Dec 2017 #8
Or is the real question "What are you NOT going to do?" (sorry for the CAPS) califootman Dec 2017 #9
IMO the party has an ethusiasm gap and loosing a dynamic guy CentralMass Dec 2017 #10
If I lived in Minnesota, I'd draft him back C_U_L8R Dec 2017 #11
... demmiblue Dec 2017 #14
I don't have to do anything,this party is IMPLODING on it's own........ Bengus81 Dec 2017 #16
So your answer is that this isn't important enough to warrant major changes in your behaviour? Kaleva Dec 2017 #17
Write him a check when he announces 2020 run. XRubicon Dec 2017 #18
Whatam I going to do? fallout87 Dec 2017 #19
I wrote to Franken and Gillibrand nuxvomica Dec 2017 #22

sprinkleeninow

(20,252 posts)
15. Q: "Did you or did you not agree to resign your Senate seat?"
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 05:10 PM
Dec 2017

A: "I do not recall." 🤔

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

ollie10

(2,091 posts)
3. 2020 is coming up sooner than we think.
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 04:31 PM
Dec 2017

One very easy thing to do is to notice right now where the potential presidential candidates stand on the railroading of Al Franken.

Gillibrand, Brown, Harris, Warren, Sanders and others have some explaining to do.....

So the first thing is informed choices.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
12. Agree and then working for alternative voices going forward.
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 04:57 PM
Dec 2017

The time is supper ripe for a third party. The Dems just made that option much more attractive to many people. Maybe someone will step into the vacuum. Maybe they won't.

What I do know is if those 34 aren't on TV every day calling for Trumps head they have lost any pretense of righteousness they were trying so weakly to provide with this move.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
21. +1, I'll end up voting for them but only after explaining their position on Franken after O'Keefe...
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 08:20 PM
Dec 2017

... hires 20 other women to make allegations against other dem congress members

 

greeny2323

(590 posts)
7. Less money
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 04:38 PM
Dec 2017

I'm going to be donating much less. These traitors ask me for money every fucking day, due to past contributions. And I'm going to watch very closely what they do and don't do.

Many of them will get a letter from me.

califootman

(120 posts)
9. Or is the real question "What are you NOT going to do?" (sorry for the CAPS)
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 04:45 PM
Dec 2017

Are you not going to contribute money or time to a campaign because you just saw a smart, eloquent, progressive Democratic Senator forced to resign by his own party without a hearing?

Are you not going to encourage others to support Democratic candidates or help GOTV on election day because you feel Democrats eat their own?

I hope, in their political calculus, the DNC higher-ups and Congress critters factored in the HUGE drain in energy for their causes that is quickly become evident in the Democratic base today.

True, they will probably not lose any Democratic votes... but they have turned off a lot of people from putting forth the effort to generate additional votes.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
10. IMO the party has an ethusiasm gap and loosing a dynamic guy
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 04:52 PM
Dec 2017

like Al Franken doesn't help.

The party has fear of the GOP as their only weapon. Those of us who slways vote will continue to vote but I don't think that the disinterested masses are going to be energized by the "product".

As bad and nasty as tRump and the GOP are they, they still seem to have the edge
.

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
11. If I lived in Minnesota, I'd draft him back
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 04:53 PM
Dec 2017

and if that doesn't work.. I'd start a write-in campaign

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
16. I don't have to do anything,this party is IMPLODING on it's own........
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 05:12 PM
Dec 2017

So where are the 30+ today calling for Moore to step aside NOW like they were yesterday with one of their own?

Or wait..... LOL...did they....bawhwhahahahhahaaaa think that Republicans would follow them in lockstep and denounce Moore today and DEMAND his campaign to end?!?! Hardly,in fact Republicans probably tossed him another MILLION $$$ to spend.


SUCKERS!! You people were PLAYED by the CONS and played bigly.

 

fallout87

(819 posts)
19. Whatam I going to do?
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 08:17 PM
Dec 2017

Im not going to keep voting for the same people making these horrible decisions. If Gillibrand and/or Harris thinks they have my vote after this rush to judgement and railroading of Franken, they can forget about it. Already called and emailed both.

nuxvomica

(12,429 posts)
22. I wrote to Franken and Gillibrand
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 08:30 PM
Dec 2017

I volunteered for Gillibrand in her first House race and wrote a scathing LTTE about her opponent that many people thought helped her win. The email to Franken expressed my support; the one to Gillibrand was both polite and damning. I needed to do both for myself.

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