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I can't believe Schumer and others didn't see this hit job (Original Post) SHRED Dec 2017 OP
The endgame is we get fucked over and die. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #1
Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #2
Schumer actually wanted that? ananda Dec 2017 #4
Indeed he did. See the article in Haaretz: Glorfindel Dec 2017 #8
I completely agree Rene Dec 2017 #39
I'm gobsmacked to see this on DU mythology Dec 2017 #40
This is not being holier than thou Generic Brad Dec 2017 #3
+1 dalton99a Dec 2017 #11
It's much easier to swiftboat one of our own than... TheCowsCameHome Dec 2017 #5
I've never been one prone to alarmism. BannonsLiver Dec 2017 #6
My thoughts exactly. Dems taking the House in 2018 is our only hope Pepsidog Dec 2017 #31
Im right there with you... Docreed2003 Dec 2017 #38
I can't believe DU-ers are linking to an article by John Ziegler oberliner Dec 2017 #7
Yup DarthDem Dec 2017 #9
What in the article is inaccurate? SHRED Dec 2017 #14
He may be an asshole but... SHRED Dec 2017 #21
Here's him calling Rose McGowan "part of the problem" oberliner Dec 2017 #22
I'm sure a group of bloggers are much smarter than Senate Dem leadership... brooklynite Dec 2017 #10
Agreed, it appears that way. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2017 #13
We do know one thing SHRED Dec 2017 #16
They didnt give a shit as I previously stated BootinUp Dec 2017 #12
You are only now realizing this? It was obvious from the day The_Casual_Observer Dec 2017 #15
The latest accuser... imax2268 Dec 2017 #17
This is another reason we needed an investigation SHRED Dec 2017 #18
I think they did see it Puzzledtraveller Dec 2017 #19
Schumer sacrificed Franken Raine Dec 2017 #20
Meanwhile they're falling all over themselves to welcome Bob Menendez back dflprincess Dec 2017 #25
I agree. wisteria Dec 2017 #27
The endgame is Mr.Bill Dec 2017 #23
Because Al Franken isn't the corporate Dem Mr. Evil Dec 2017 #24
Then why did Sanders and Markey... SHRED Dec 2017 #28
Mob mentality maybe. I don't know. Do you? Mr. Evil Dec 2017 #32
I don't know SHRED Dec 2017 #34
They new. They have decided in a losing strategy wisteria Dec 2017 #26
I wonder if this will create a male backlash against us in 18..... mentalslavery Dec 2017 #29
Rick Wilson tweeted someone who says that there are 30 more Congress people demgrrrll Dec 2017 #30
Jerusalems reunification Nevernose Dec 2017 #33
Devastating. tavernier Dec 2017 #35
Youre in good company onecaliberal Dec 2017 #36
Leaving the Dem faifthful in the dark about whats really going on here doesn't appear to be a winning strategy. nocalflea Dec 2017 #37
Remember that Schemer attacks Hillary Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #41

Response to SHRED (Original post)

ananda

(28,866 posts)
4. Schumer actually wanted that?
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 09:51 PM
Dec 2017

Oh dear ... we are so fucked!

But Gillibrand and Warren were actually leading the charge.

They are a HUGE disappointment to me .. enough so that
I will never support either of them for anything ever!

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
40. I'm gobsmacked to see this on DU
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 12:24 AM
Dec 2017

Really, the devious Jewish guy screwed over his caucus member to bribe Trump to do something Trump wanted to do anyway. That doesn't pass the laugh test.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
5. It's much easier to swiftboat one of our own than...
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 09:54 PM
Dec 2017

...go after "Our friends across the aisle"

How I HATE that expression of his -- now more than ever.

BannonsLiver

(16,396 posts)
6. I've never been one prone to alarmism.
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 09:54 PM
Dec 2017

I'm the guy who usually tells everyone at work it's going to fine when there's a problem people get freaked out about. We'll get through it. Tomorrow we will be better. etc. I knew Obama "had this" during some of his toughest moments in 2008, and during his presidency. I spent two hours talking my sobbing wife through her pain on election night. I told her about Kamala Harris and Gillibrand and others who might some day offer her hope.

But now, I just dunno what the end game is anymore. I'm disillusioned with our leadership. I think they lack the fortitude to handle the current crop of Trumpublicans who are savage to their core. And our culture has become so dumbed down, I have no faith in the silent majority to stand up and put an end to this in 2018 or 2020. We are in a very dark place, fighting for the soul of our democracy and i feel like we are losing badly.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
31. My thoughts exactly. Dems taking the House in 2018 is our only hope
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:37 PM
Dec 2017

I used to think Mueller was the answer. Now I think Mueller can have video of Trump committing treason and Trumpanzees don’t care and nothing will happen. With R’s support of Moore all hope of decency is gone. Only a win in 2018 will help us now.

Docreed2003

(16,863 posts)
38. Im right there with you...
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 12:11 AM
Dec 2017

My wife and I were in tears election night. The next morning we woke up early to explain to our kids what had happened and to admonish them, no matter how upset they were not to show it in school...we live in a very red suburb of a blue island in a very red state. We promised them that there were people who would stand up and fight against Trump. While that part is partially true, it seems that Dems are all to willing to fall back on the standard practice of “eating our own” while refusing to stand up strongly against the GOP out of fear of being labeled as “liberal” or not bipartisan. I’m quickly losing hope that those in the current leadership of the Democratic Party share our same goals of resistance.

DarthDem

(5,255 posts)
9. Yup
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 09:56 PM
Dec 2017

The alarmism and doomsaying in here isn't sufficiently off the chain; we need to have kookisms peddled now too.

brooklynite

(94,596 posts)
10. I'm sure a group of bloggers are much smarter than Senate Dem leadership...
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 09:58 PM
Dec 2017

Last edited Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:49 PM - Edit history (1)

...and all of the Democratic Senate women.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
15. You are only now realizing this? It was obvious from the day
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 10:05 PM
Dec 2017

that woman started this shit, everything was known about her and her motive within the first few hours.

The other ones can't be any better.

dflprincess

(28,079 posts)
25. Meanwhile they're falling all over themselves to welcome Bob Menendez back
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:28 PM
Dec 2017

giving him plumb committee assignments and endorsing his 2018 reelection bid....Assuming the next jury will also be hung.

Let's face, Al was always a threat to the Democratic establishment so it was easy for them to throw him under the bus.

Mr. Evil

(2,845 posts)
24. Because Al Franken isn't the corporate Dem
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:28 PM
Dec 2017

they want. Schumer is as much to blame as anyone that called for Franken to resign. They are all welcoming back Sen. Bob Menendez from a hung jury in his corruption trial. Why? Because they want to keep his corrupt ass in the Senate because if they ask him to resign then Chris Christie gets to pick his successor. Which would be a republican. They'd lose a seat. This is dirty politics because they know that the Minnesota governor will pick a democrat so they have nothing to lose seat-wise but they gain someone that they will be more able to control. Al Franken was knifed in the back by his own colleagues. As the saying goes, with friends like these who needs enemies.

Mr. Evil

(2,845 posts)
32. Mob mentality maybe. I don't know. Do you?
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:41 PM
Dec 2017

Maybe they were promised something in some upcoming legislative package. Maybe they turned soft. Maybe they don't like Sen. Franken. It's politics as usual in this country. Dirty as ever.

 

wisteria

(19,581 posts)
26. They new. They have decided in a losing strategy
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:30 PM
Dec 2017

And, Franken was the
Over in this. The D ms are weak and ineffective.

demgrrrll

(3,590 posts)
30. Rick Wilson tweeted someone who says that there are 30 more Congress people
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:35 PM
Dec 2017

who are being investigated. Maybe there is a long game here.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
33. Jerusalems reunification
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:45 PM
Dec 2017

The fiftieth anniversary of Jerusalem’s reunification.

Holy shit.

I can’t believe any thinking person — goyim or otherwise — would even say something like that? Anniversary of reunification? Fuck that.

But apparently the (relevant) stars have aligned — Saudi coup, Syrian revolution, who knows what in Lebanon, dismantling of Iraq and Libya, Jordanian complacency, Egyptian complacency (aided by multiple Hamas and ISIS attacks), Iranian marginalization, Trump-Russia collusion...

The pieces are finally all there.

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
37. Leaving the Dem faifthful in the dark about whats really going on here doesn't appear to be a winning strategy.
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:57 PM
Dec 2017

These pols need to check their rearview mirrors.

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