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Bernie-Hillary Unity commission to vote on proposals for Superdelegates, caucuses & more (Original Post) Fiendish Thingy Dec 2017 OP
Sounds like a good start. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #1
Can They Also Put In A Rule Me. Dec 2017 #2
thank you! dlwickham Dec 2017 #4
'Still, even if the Unity Reform Commission votes in favor of the proposals, elleng Dec 2017 #3
This article is incredibly biased in their description of 2016. StevieM Dec 2017 #5
There are many opinions on this. CentralMass Dec 2017 #9
has bernie actually joined the democratic party? nt msongs Dec 2017 #6
No, but I'm sure the Unity Commission members are and have been RandomAccess Dec 2017 #7
If Superdelegates were reduced to 0, things would not have changed in 2016 SFnomad Dec 2017 #8
Who cares. We need to eliminate super delegates and particularly lobbiests from our electoral CentralMass Dec 2017 #10
Ah, but the narrative would most definitely have changed Fiendish Thingy Dec 2017 #11

elleng

(130,974 posts)
3. 'Still, even if the Unity Reform Commission votes in favor of the proposals,
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 10:23 PM
Dec 2017

that doesn't mean the changes are guaranteed. There's still a months-long, somewhat complicated process ahead before a final vote in 2018, cast by the DNC's 447 members. The result will either widen or help shrink the divide between grassroots progressives and the party — one that DNC chair Tom Perez has so far struggled to close.'

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
5. This article is incredibly biased in their description of 2016.
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 10:32 PM
Dec 2017

The only candidate who tried to win the nomination through super delegates is Bernie Sanders.

And it is by no means agreed on by everyone that the DNC was biased towards Hillary.

Finally, the caucuses didn't disadvantage lesser-known candidates--they disadvantaged Hillary, both in 2016 and in 2020. Amazingly, the writers didn't think it was worth mentioning that their results didn't even come close to matching what was shown in states like Washington would have happened in a primary.

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
8. If Superdelegates were reduced to 0, things would not have changed in 2016
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:27 PM
Dec 2017

Clinton still beat Sanders by more than 3.5 million votes and over 350 pledged delegates.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
10. Who cares. We need to eliminate super delegates and particularly lobbiests from our electoral
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:31 PM
Dec 2017

process.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,624 posts)
11. Ah, but the narrative would most definitely have changed
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 01:18 AM
Dec 2017

As the media began tallying Superdelegates in late 2015, even before the primaries began, creating an illusion of momentum and inevitability for HRC, rather than balanced coverage comparing hers and Sanders records and proposed policies. Essentially, the media's focus on Superdelegates (aided by HRC's staff emphasizing this "lead" before a single vote was cast) gave HRC a "head start".

I'm glad to hear about the Unity Comissions proposed reforms, and look forward to a new process that will encourage new, passionate candidates for a primary season that will likely start in just over a year from now.

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