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femmedem

(8,203 posts)
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:21 PM Dec 2017

I tweeted a #metoo experience. It sure wasn't about a hand on my waist

or even my butt during a staged hug for the cameras. That shit would be an annoyance, not a trauma. I'd be pissed off for a moment, if I was certain it was deliberate. Then I'd shrug it off and forget about it.

After my #metoo experience, I slept with a knife under my pillow. I carried a broken glass bottle with me as I walked across town, and I made sure to show it to any man who came close. I lost my way in school. It changed my profession, it damaged my marriage. Sometimes I'd stay in bed for twenty three hours a day and feel relieved that at least I got out of bed that last hour to take a bath.

I was proud to tell a hint of my story during those hours when #metoo took over social media. I wanted to stand with people who had truly been preyed on, whose lives had been changed because of sexual violence or predation, who had suffered shame and then decided en masse to say to hell with that; they had nothing to be ashamed of.

Today I almost, almost wish #metoo hadn't happened. I'm so angry about how it's been co-opted and diminished.

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I tweeted a #metoo experience. It sure wasn't about a hand on my waist (Original Post) femmedem Dec 2017 OP
Well said. Agree! mountain grammy Dec 2017 #1
And to think... BannonsLiver Dec 2017 #2
A few short weeks ago I'd have gladly voted for either in 2020. femmedem Dec 2017 #3
She completely lost me over this RandomAccess Dec 2017 #4
Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #5
That is patently false and you know it. Nt Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2017 #6
#MeToo is not a competition. Ms. Toad Dec 2017 #7
It's not a competition, but not all experiences are the same nadine_mn Dec 2017 #11
I never said they should be treated the same - Ms. Toad Dec 2017 #12
#metoo got hijacked by the GOP agincourt Dec 2017 #8
I didn't share my #metoo herding cats Dec 2017 #9
I agree with you so much. I too have my #metoo stories. OhioBlue Dec 2017 #10

BannonsLiver

(16,396 posts)
2. And to think...
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:28 PM
Dec 2017

Kirsten Gillibrand doesn’t believe any distinction should be drawn between what you have been through and what Franken is alleged to have done.

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
3. A few short weeks ago I'd have gladly voted for either in 2020.
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:31 PM
Dec 2017

Now one's career has been destroyed and it would be damned difficult to support the other.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
4. She completely lost me over this
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:32 PM
Dec 2017

I wasn't really crazy about her before this, but she's dead to me now.

Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #2)

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
7. #MeToo is not a competition.
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 01:02 AM
Dec 2017

It is not cheapened because someone else's #MeToo experience is not as large or traumatic as yours or mine (which started when I was 11, and runs the gamut from less physically invasive touching through rape).

Unwanted physical attention is, unfortunately, a part of nearly all women's lives. It's about time we share our stories - from the mundane to the horriffic. The mundane neither co-opt nor cheapen teh horriffic. All of the stories help people who have dismissed women's stories in the past to realiize how pervasive they are.

nadine_mn

(3,702 posts)
11. It's not a competition, but not all experiences are the same
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 02:34 AM
Dec 2017

There is a reason in the law there are degrees: degrees of murder, assault, robbery, and sexual assault. There is a reason we don't treat every offense the same.

Things like intent, age of victim, amount of force used, evidence of bodily harm...we have to have perspective.

We can't have an honest conversation about how to make positive changes and to have our voices heard if we cannot be honest with ourselves that not all unwanted touching should be treated the same or given the same weight.

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
12. I never said they should be treated the same -
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 03:15 AM
Dec 2017

just that women sharing their experiences, even if the person they are accusing is a popular Democratic politician, does not cheapen the movement.

That doesn't mean that the response to the accusations should be the same. The appropriate response depends on the severity of the offense, the persistence of the behavior, the willingness to learn and change, etc. I have consisently said that (1) I largely believe the women and (2) Franken should not resign.

The thing that has bothered me most in the DU response to Franken is that instead of considering what the appropriate response should be, based on the fact the offenses of which Franken is accused are on the milder end of the scale and he has sincerely apologized and indicated a willingness to grow, DU has largely been attacking the accusers.

That does irreparable harm the #MeToo movement, because it lessens the willingness of women to share their experiences for fear of 70s (or earlier) style attacks.

In other words, from my perspective, the harm to the #MeToo movement comes from the knee-jerk - our hero couldn't possibly have done it response that shoves women back into closets of shame, and discourages others from poking their noses out.

agincourt

(1,996 posts)
8. #metoo got hijacked by the GOP
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 01:14 AM
Dec 2017

but there will always be some people who will be enablers for GOP political operatives.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
9. I didn't share my #metoo
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 01:23 AM
Dec 2017

Now it feels irrelevant.

I have varying tales to tell, and none of them from my first and most harmless (but most shocking to me) to my last are anything minor.

I feel more marginalized now than before, personally.

OhioBlue

(5,126 posts)
10. I agree with you so much. I too have my #metoo stories.
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 01:32 AM
Dec 2017

they started with molestation when I was six. I think we are going down a path that is diminishing sexual abuse.

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