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Eko

(7,318 posts)
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:58 PM Dec 2017

It would be great to be suprised at the amount of Democrats ready to trash the party

Over Franken but I'm not. He was awesome not doubt, but if you are going to abandon the party over this then you don't have your priorities straight at all. Franken is not the Democratic party, even he would say that, and every once in a while you have to take one for the team. No one made him do that, he choose that. Just another reason why he is awesome. So, pull yourself together if you are that upset and do what he would want you to do. Be a proud Democrat. Dammit.

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It would be great to be suprised at the amount of Democrats ready to trash the party (Original Post) Eko Dec 2017 OP
Regarding the Sen Franken matter... TheDebbieDee Dec 2017 #1
+1...case closed. BannonsLiver Dec 2017 #2
+ 1 ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #3
That is one perspective mythology Dec 2017 #8
You just don't get it, Myth! TheDebbieDee Dec 2017 #10
Drip... drip.... drip... Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2017 #4
I respect your view but if a group of representatives in a delisen Dec 2017 #5
I'm giving everyone a 24 hour rule to melt and then get it together Phonebank4Tendies Dec 2017 #6
It's not trashing of the party. fallout87 Dec 2017 #7
I'm trying.... Tracyjo Dec 2017 #9
 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
1. Regarding the Sen Franken matter...
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 12:42 AM
Dec 2017

This is a visual representation of what the Democratic Party did to Sen Franken:

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How can we trust the Democrats to stand up for us if they won't stand up for each other?

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
8. That is one perspective
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 02:01 AM
Dec 2017

Here's another: Franken threw himself under the bus by apparently not understanding how to keep his hands to himself. He apologized for unspecified wrong doing and claimed he didn't remember. That's basically the same approach Kevin Spacey took. Nobody bought that from Kevin Spacey especially as more and more accusers came forward.

Also to answer your question with one of my own, how could women trust the Democrats to stand up for them if instead of dealing with sexual harassment/assault in our midst, we papered over it for practicality's sake?

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
10. You just don't get it, Myth!
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 01:59 PM
Dec 2017

Dems need to fight republicans and Russians and Trump TODAY to regain power and bring some semblance of common sense in governing this country!

By throwing Franken under the bus, Dems have one less strong voice working to that end - Franken could've kept Sessions on the ropes!

POINT BLANK: Eliminating sexual harrassment could wait til Dems get MORE power! Instead, Dems have silenced a powerful voice in Franken, have let Sessions off the hook and have shown themselves to be simple-minded do-gooder SUCKERS! AGAIN!

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
4. Drip... drip.... drip...
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 12:49 AM
Dec 2017

I don't think anyone's grievances with the leadership begin and end with the fragging of Al Franken.

delisen

(6,044 posts)
5. I respect your view but if a group of representatives in a
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 01:33 AM
Dec 2017

representative democracy do something controversial surely they should anticipate that controversy will ensue and factor that into their plans.

I think very few voters will abandon the party over this, but I think the senators involved have loosened the bond of trust between themselves and democratic voters by appearing to have abandoned the democratic principle of due process.




 
6. I'm giving everyone a 24 hour rule to melt and then get it together
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 01:54 AM
Dec 2017

If you guys keep being the whoa is me then we're literally FUCKED. I hate to say it, but we've got a LOSER mentality going and the crybaby bullshit is not helping one bit!

 

fallout87

(819 posts)
7. It's not trashing of the party.
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 01:57 AM
Dec 2017

Its calling out individuals who threw a great senator under the bus for their own political gain. If they will sell out their own to advance their careers, do you still expect us to support them? Why?

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