US senator on North Korea: Most Americans dont realize how close we are to this war

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Some scary sh** going on and a loose cannon in the White House.

Dec 7, 2017, 12:30pm EST https://www.vox.com/world/2017/12/7/16743550/north-korea-tammy-duckworth-interview

Sen. Tammy Duckworth, a decorated veteran of the Iraq War, is scared — scared that the Trump administration may be getting the US into a devastating war with North Korea without much of the public noticing or seeming to care.

“Most Americans,” she says, “don’t realize how close we are to this war.”

Duckworth, who lost both of her legs after her helicopter was shot down by insurgents, has closely followed both aggressive rhetoric from the White House and the way the US military has been approaching the Korean Peninsula. She believes the events of the past six months indicate that President Trump might be willing to actually launch a preventive strike on North Korea, despite the real chance that it could trigger a nuclear exchange.

This line of reasoning would be worrying if it were coming from an outside analyst or expert. But coming from a US senator and veteran, someone who knows war and has top-level security clearances, it’s truly disturbing — an indication that we need to be having a much bigger debate over Trump’s North Korea policy than we are.

I’m extremely worried — not just based on what I’m hearing out of the White House but also what I’m hearing out of the defense community. We are far closer to actual conflict over North Korea than the American people realize.
But a preventive first strike from us will result in a massive response from the North Koreans. We know this because a high-ranking defector from North Korea testified in front of Congress last month; one of the things that would happen is a preemptive first strike from the United States or South Korea would result in an automatic massive response.

Our military has war-gamed this out. My concern is that our president is either ignoring this information or not getting this information, because he’s out there saying “the time for negotiations is over” and frankly seems eager, in my opinion, to launch a first strike.

[Wellstone ruled]

1. Earlier this week,

there was a recommendation for US Pat's to leave South Korea. Reported on ABC nightly News.

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3. Not surprised. n/t

[Cosmocat]

5. YEP

its happening ...

[pbmus]

2. Beyond scary...our country would end as we know it...

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4. I do wonder how many Americans are really concerned. That, is scary too. n/t

[maryellen99]

6. Im very concerned and alarmed as well nt

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7. Many people today have never lived through anything like this. It would be like WWII on steroids.

It would change the landscape of the world forever. I feel like we're coasting along waiting for the other shoe to drop.

[maryellen99]

13. Me too nt

This may sound silly but I have an impending sense of dread but I think this is the last Christmas we will have. I think people aren’t taking it seriously because they 1.think it will be over quick like Desert Storm and 2.any radiation/fallout will be contained and not drift over here.

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16. I have this uneasy premonition riding on my back. Same thing, "an impending sense of dread ..."

NK is very smart, very capable people, and seemingly support underground from other countries or something. It's a powder keg waiting to go, and tRump is playing with matches. I'm not a CT type of person, and I don't scare easily, but this is really unnerving because there are so many negative events/situations in the air all at once combined with an unstable gov. in the US.

[maryellen99]

18. I agree another thing that leads to me believe we are headed to WW3

There’s now talk of the US boycotting the Winter Olympics due to “safety concerns”.

[spanone]

8. K&R...

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10. It's often like the quiet before the storm. n/t

[spanone]

14. trump is a tornado of insanity and it's so hard to keep up with all the shit he's throwing around

i put nothing past the psycho-in-chief

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17. Yep, and he's getting worse each day. He wants it seems to throw the world into chaos. n/t

[workinclasszero]

9. Lowest popular polling pResident in history...Mueller closing in on Trump's crime family...

Senile/Alzheimer symptoms starting to show more each day...
Well hell folks, what a great time for a wag the dog war with NK, this time with nukes and millions of causalities!

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12. And the deplorables will cheer about the strength of a great president. What could go wrong with

tRump as commander in chief.

[G_j]

11. K&R

[smirkymonkey]

19. One way or another, he is determined to get his war.

He's like a little kid who is obsessed w/ explosions. He doesn't think about the real world implications. He just wants to see things go "boom" - the bigger, the better.

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20. It's the most dangerous situation I've ever seen the US in, it's being generated within the US.