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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 12:19 AM Dec 2017

The lie called "equal representation".

California gets one US Senator for each 19,625,000 people. Wyoming gets a senator for each 291,000.

The average person, if they try, can influence five, maybe ten, votes among family and friends. Thanks to Citizens United, the Koch brothers can influence millions of voters with tv ads they pay for with "pocket change".

In some cities, wealthy red precincts vote on new machines after a 20 minute wait while voters in poorer blue precincts may wait several hours to confront ancient machines that just may vote Republican no matter who they select.

Votes for Hillary Clinton in the last election were quite obviously "worth" less than votes for Trump as, even though there were nearly three million more of them, they were not sufficient to elect the president.

Under our current system, the party winning 50.01% of the vote can totally ignore the wishes of the other 49.99

"Of the people, by the people, and for the people"? "One man, one vote"?

In your dreams.

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The lie called "equal representation". (Original Post) Atticus Dec 2017 OP
20 minutes to vote? rainin Dec 2017 #1
I thought as much, but had no corroboration. Thought 20 minutes would not be an exageration. Atticus Dec 2017 #2
Same for me -- 5 minutes Dale Neiburg Dec 2017 #3
I envy you. My county is rural and voted over 75% for Trump. nt Atticus Dec 2017 #4

rainin

(3,011 posts)
1. 20 minutes to vote?
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 12:22 AM
Dec 2017

Seriously. I have never waited. I vote democatic in a wealthy red suburb and I walk in and vote. No line ever. Plenty of machines. Lots of volunteers. 5 minutes - start to finish.

Any way they can cheat, they cheat.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
2. I thought as much, but had no corroboration. Thought 20 minutes would not be an exageration.
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 12:32 AM
Dec 2017

Thanks for first-hand information.

Dale Neiburg

(698 posts)
3. Same for me -- 5 minutes
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 06:48 AM
Dec 2017

(I'm in a well-to-do county in a blue state.)

Only exception was the first Obama election in 2008. There was a wait there (my wife went and sat down while I held our place in line), because of a line well over 100 yards long. Not because of lack of machines -- they had more than usual deployed -- but because turnout was record-breaking.

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