HUGE: Russian Report Confirms Attack On US Election

[L. Coyote]

Last edited Fri Dec 8, 2017, 07:35 PM - Edit history (1)

The damn dam is breaking, Trump needs a life jacket.

Dec 7, 2017
Rachel Maddow shares the details of a Russian media report that explains that the reason Russian intelligence cyber experts were arrested for treason a year ago is that they were the sources that helped the U.S. figure out who was responsible for the DNC hack.

Note, the original reporting has a timeline error. The leaks were public when the encryption key offer was emailed.

Wikileaks sent Trump private access and a decryption key to emails weeks before they were released
By Mark Sumner -- Dec 08, 2017 · 6:26 AM

CNN is reporting that the Trump campaign—including candidate Donald Trump, Donald Trump Jr., and others—were offered access to Wikileaks documents, including special access to a Wikileaks website, a month before Wikileaks began publishing documents stolen from John Podesta’s account to the public.

The email came less than three weeks before WikiLeaks itself messaged Trump Jr. and began an exchange of direct messages on Twitter. Trump Jr. told investigators he had no recollection of the September email.

The email, which apparently slipped the memory of history’s most forgetful campaign team, included a decryption key and address for documents stolen by Russian hackers and later distributed through Wikileaks. It’s not clear if the email, which came addressed from “Mike Erickson” is from the same person who later began conversing with Donald Trump Jr. through private messages on Twitter.

Trump Jr.'s attorney, Alan Futerfas, told CNN that his client said he had no recollection of the email and took no action on it. The White House did not respond to requests for comment, and efforts to reach WikiLeaks for comment were unsuccessful.

The email has been turned over to congressional investigators. ...............

[underpants]

1. Jr is ready with his "attorney client privilege" but

He's. Just. So. Stupid.

[NewJeffCT]

6. Can any lawyers on DU please stop by my local bank

If I go to rob the bank, I can then cite attorney-client privilege if caught because there was an attorney in the room.

[underpants]

10. You can use the Cheney-torture/Moore-perv excuse

Cheney, look we only tortured a couple of people. You should give us credit for not torturing more.

Moore, what about all the children I DIDN'T stalk or molest???

NewJeffCT, your honor I only robbed ONE bank. I mean I could have robbed other ones.

[Irish_Dem]

27. Right and if we discuss robbing the bank beforehand, and there is an attorney present, then it is OK

[onetexan]

44. wonder if Mueller and his team laughed out loud when they heard him claim attorney client privilege

how could they not? fella's really that dense isn't he LOL.

[Cracklin Charlie]

2. Who turned over that email?

I wish I liked mystery stories more.

This sounds like a good one.

[Irish_Dem]

28. I love mysteries, and if someone published all of this, I wouldn't believe it.

It would be like science fiction and fantasy.

[Pluvious]

33. As Hanity loves to smirk: "Tic Tock Tic Tock!" n/t

[Loubee]

3. I knew there was a reason why GOP Trumpsters

were yelling incoherently on the morning TV shows; desperately trying to shout over the anchors running down the details of the latest revelations.

[smirkymonkey]

4. Please let this be the thing that breaks them.

I can't take much more of this.

[L. Coyote]

7. The thing-of-the-day is breaking them at this point. Every day more revelations.

I suspect the ongoing deluge is purposeful, to prepare the public for all the classified and secret information that will bring them down. And that doesn't even include the sexual assaults problem Pussy Grabber faces now that he has been Frankened.

[Jarqui]

5. I want to see him taken out of the White House in handcuffs

That would do a lot to restore the world's faith in America

(stated while understanding why we'll never see that ...)

[Moostache]

8. Sadly, the world is going to view the USA suspiciously for a very long time...

Even once Trump is gone - by impeachment, resignation, mental breakdown or stroke - the stench of his disgrace will linger for a generation. It may very well take another war in Europe for the USA to regain its standing on the world stage. We are now seen a population of low brow idiots, more concerned with fattening the wallets of our oligarchs than with our role in the world at large.

We have become the crazy uncle at the world Christmas Party...the one who takes a dump in the punch bowl, grabs another man's wife at the party and vomits in the foyer...we are the world equivalent of a bad drunk.

[Nitram]

16. Not necessarily. the entire world knows trump is the origin of all this year's weirdness.

If we manage to remove Trump from office in a constitutional manner, it will demonstrate to the world that our democracy works, and that we can undo the harm inflicted on us by this demented tool. Although if both Houses off congress retain a Republican majority,it will make no difference.

[Moostache]

19. We will not remove Trump as long as the GOP holds power ...

Shit, even if we have what appears on paper to be a 60-vote majority in the Senate, which we held prior to Obamacare ever so briefly (but almost immediately saw it pulled apart and lost), the removal threshold is 67. I will bet both my arms that the GOP would NEVER see that many defectors, so the best we could hope for would be an inverse Bill Clinton result - a show trial in the House and an already known outcome in the Senate.

For fuck's sake, they can't even hold the line against an accused pedophile for longer than 2 weeks...no, I do not believe that America the country can regain its lost standing in the world quickly....America the Idea will forever burn brightly, but our current state of affairs and the fact that a 1/3 of the population STILL think Trump is A-OK is a national calamity that we won't recover from until mid-century, if ever...

[Duppers]

18. I've written friends in other countries to

Reassure them that most Americans wants president turd removed from office and imprisoned. These friends cannot help but think our system is weird. Yep, we've problems that need fixing. <Cough> electoral college, paperless ballots, gerrymandering...

[sharedvalues]

49. it all comes down to billionaires purchasing US politicians and media

Get money out of politics to limit influence of Koch, Mercer, Adelson.

And get media reformed to reduce influence of Murdoch and Mercer.

If America does those two things we may fix our country. Otherwise we should get used to being ruled by billionaire oligarchs.

[rainin]

24. Yes, but handcuffs would go a long way.

The world knows, or can forgive us, for being the victim of a Russian attack.

[Enoki33]

30. This is pretty much what not only visitors from Europe, but from all

over the world, have been saying to a friend of mine who is in the hospitality business. She also said that we are being openly laughed at on the world stage. We have much to prove before we can regain the damage Dotard has been allowed to do.

[Alice11111]

37. Yes, my fantasy too. I'm afraid of the destruction he will

Unleash as he is going down. He once said, if he goes, everyone goes...different context...to Manafort, but that is how he thinks.

[L. Coyote]

58. That would be a start.

[Roland99]

9. Friday news dump trump moves to fire mueller?

His residency is going to end one way or another.

[L. Coyote]

12. His wishes he could, I imagine. He would have by now also.

Nonetheless, applying political pressure isn't a bad idea.

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[PatrickforO]

11. My goodness! The jaws of justice are beginning to

snap shut. These odious morons will soon be in the dock if our leadership has more guts than they've shown to date. You know the Dems I have the most respect for right now? The ones who voted FOR debate around articles of impeachment in spite of Pelosi and Hoyer. There are 58 of them and they showed the kind of guts that wins elections. These people can count on my support in upcoming months.


Too bad Al Franken got a different kind of justice, isn't it?

[ananda]

20. Worse than too bad!

That Dems would do this to one of their own
and a good guy...

I don't know that I can ever call myself a
Democrat again!

[Alice11111]

38. It is disgusting, unethical, a violation of his right to confront his

accusers, and just a big lying, smear hit job. We expect this from Fox, but our own Dems??

[keithbvadu2]

13. If Trump was elected with Russian collusion, then so was Pence.

[byronius]

14. I am again somewhat bothered by the fact that we knew but did nothing.

Apparently we had the Russians dead to rights, six ways to Sunday -- after all, our intelligence budgets dwarf the rest of the planet's GDP, one would expect us to catch this.

But because the Treasoneers on our side were Republican -- well, nothing could be done. Wealthy white men only commit treason when it's -- for the good of the nation? Treason in the cause of attacking brown people isn't treason, apparently.

I know McConnell and Ryan and the GOP leadership all demanded this story be sat on, and that the NSA and CIA and Obama tried to convince them otherwise and failed. But still. Good Lord.

We kinda suck if this is true. We're pathetic and weak and everything the Russians always said about us was ABSOLUTELY TRUE -- riddled with Comfortable Traitors and Race-Based Equivocators, and just that fucking Stupid.

Goddamn it.

[L. Coyote]

23. Easy to say this with no knowledge of what is secret and what is classified activity.

[byronius]

25. Explain explain. What do you mean, L. Coyote?

[Botany]

15. Trump and company always have said, "No connections to Russia" but Wikileaks is a Russian operation

[uponit7771]

22. +1

[sarcasmo]

17. Hilary won the popular vote and deserves the job. What a cluster F---

[L. Coyote]

29. After millions were disenfranchised by Republican voter suppression in battlegrounds.

[LudwigPastorius]

21. "Mike Erickson"

[keithbvadu2]

52. Putin running for president again. Campaign slogan - 'I made America Great Again'

Putin running for president again.

Campaign slogan - 'I made America Great Again'

(Conan)

[Gothmog]

26. Rachel did a good job last night

[Alice11111]

40. Yeah, I was glad I caught her. I wish she would do a show

On the Franken hit, but I'm sure NBC would not allow it.
They wouldn't let Farrow go with the Weinstein story.
They are not going to be a leader in setting things right.

[niyad]

31. personally, I hope each and every enabler of this interference, each denier, each person who

profited from it, sinks. no life jackets for these scum.

[L. Coyote]

32. Make them enjoy each other's company for a long, long while:

[AntiFascist]

34. I love Rachel's reporting, but...

I also feel that there is a lot more to this than simply the promise of dropping Russian sanctions.

Putin's oligarchs have stolen tremendous wealth from the people of Russia after the downfall of the Soviet Union. Much of this wealth has been laundered into various real estate deals and the oligarchs want to ensure that their bounty is safe and sound. The dropping of the Prevezon case by Trump's justice department was the first step in this direction.

Also, by working around US intelligence, Trump was hoping to collude with Russia in exploiting ME energy resources.

[hughee99]

35. Am I misunderstanding part of the report?

From the DailyKos story

"The Washington Post is reporting that the actual date of the email to Trump was on September 14, not September 4 as originally reported by CNN.

That means that, while Wikileaks was still offering a decryption key and private access to the Trump campaign, most, if not all, of the documents at the site were already available to the public at the time the email was sent."

The OP indicates that Trump had (or was offered) early access but according to this update (which came out after the OP), it looks like the info was already publicly available at the time of the email.

[L. Coyote]

39. The keys and the data are not released at the same time. CNN has corrected.

So now the timing mistake is overshadowing the fact: Wikileaks emails Trump campaign with encryption key offer for stolen emails.
Breitbart and Greenwald are suddenly on the "fake news" angle!

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[Alice11111]

41. I read that. It seems like the focus was more on CNN

Made a mistake and Trump will use it to say FAKE NEWS! He would probably say it anyway, but FOX will pound it in to the Determined-to-be-Ignorants.

[hughee99]

43. That's exactly what I was thinking. The crux of the story was that since Trump got the key before

the data was released, there's some coordination going on between Trump and wikileaks, but with the updated information, it sounds like Trump got a key after it was already publicly available, which sort of wrecks that argument. It's the sort of thing they'll spin just like the ABC story, where a key piece of information turned out to not be accurate and the story ended up helping him more than hurting him.

[Blue_Tires]

36. Greenwald and Snowden were unavailable for comment...

[L. Coyote]

42. Greenwald is tweeting this out big time.

To criticize the flawed timeline in the original CNN report, which was repeated on dKos and elsewhere.
The "Never Trust the Loonie Left News" flag is being waved widely and wildly. Some wingnuts are threatening to never read again.

Link to tweet

[Blue_Tires]

45. Of course he is....

Just following orders like the good little German he is

[sharedvalues]

46. NO NO NO no no no. You don't believe the Russians.

The first rule of combating Russian disinformation is:

You IGNORE what the Russians say. Because they plant clear falsehoods to confuse you.

People fell into the same trap when the Russian lawyer Veselnitskaya testified before Congress. And when Ahkmetshin spoke to the media. The Russian spies are LYING. On purpose. To achieve their ends.

We can trust things that real outlets like Wa Po and NYT say, and that our FBI and CIA say. But do NOT take the Russians at face value.

[sharedvalues]

47. "Rachel is smart but knows nothing about [Russian spies] and their tradecraft"

Yes, this.

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[sharedvalues]

48. Read this to understand how the Russians tell lies wrapped in 80% truth

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-02-27/a-fake-news-warning-from-a-former-propagandist

From pizza-parlor pedophilia rings to Sharia law in Florida, viral fake news stories often seem propelled by their own preposterousness. It’s a different matter for professionally produced disinformation. That, I learned from a former pro, requires a core of logic and verifiable fact.

Larry Martin, a retired professor who lives in the seaside town of Rockport, Massachusetts, used to be Ladislav Bittman, deputy commander of the Department for Active Measures and Disinformation in the Soviet-directed Czechoslovak intelligence service. To create the kind of disinformation that changes the world, he told me, you need a story that’s at least 60, 70 or even 80 percent true. Even well-educated people will swallow untruth without too many questions if it’s plausible and it reinforces their existing beliefs.

Today, Martin’s worried about the fate of his adopted country -- not just because of the epidemic of fake news, but because so many citizens have lost trust in the professional editors and reporters who spend their days trying to sort fact from fiction. He’s far from the only one concerned, of course: Dozens of academics, researchers and journalists recently converged on Boston to discuss the problem. But Martin has a unique insight into the issue: After all, part of his old job was to sow that kind of distrust in then-enemy countries.

The Russians know Trump is on his way out. They're trying to harness America's chaos and turn it to their benefit. Be conscious of this.

[Upthevibe]

51. K & R................. n/t

[Stand and Fight]

53. Its not harnessing chaos. Sowing chaos and FUD has been the game all along. n/t

[keithbvadu2]

54. Excellent article,,,, thanks.

Excellent article,,,, thanks.

Misleading gov't propaganda,,, religious teachings,,, financial/legal mumbo jumbo,,, political agendas...

This can be from your organization to others
......or
from your own organization to yourself.
.............Who says you deserve the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

[summer_in_TX]

50. 'Fraid you're right

"Sadly, the world is going to view the USA suspiciously for a very long time...

Even once Trump is gone - by impeachment, resignation, mental breakdown or stroke - the stench of his disgrace will linger for a generation." ~Moustach

As long as we have the widespread propaganda machine in our midst that is RW conservative talk radio and Faux News still in place, why should our historic allies get over their distrust. As we've seen, they've been able to be a powerful player in getting Trump and other wing nuts elected.

No reason to trust that we wouldn't elect another would-be dictator again.

[Peaceful Protester]

55. needtoimpeach.com - impeachdonaldtrumpnow.org

The Magnitsky Act (an American anti-corruption law)

Sanctions, known as The Magnitsky Act (an American anti-corruption law), were put into place to prevent Putin, one of the wealthiest men in the world, from accessing ill-gotten monies he has hidden in America.

Putin offered technical support, elections interference, opposition research, and a middle east nuclear reactor deal for ripping up the sanctions.

The Trump campaign worked with Putin and WikiLeaks to engage in U.S. election interference during the last presidential election for quid pro quo.

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Both the house and senate voted to overwhelmingly to pass the sanctions.

The house voted 419-3
The senate voted 98-2

--

Note:

October 1 was the deadline to implement these sanctions. Today is December 8, and Trump still has NOT implemented these sanctions.

Why hasn't Trump implement the Russia Sanctions that congress has overwhelmingly passed?
.

[denbot]

56. I would be goddamn cautious of anything reported out of Russian media

They refined ratfucking from the Nixion crew (Roger Stone, et al), they are only tasked to spread chaos. Beware the ides of March.

[sarcasmo]

57. The Russians own Donnie, you can tell by how happy Donnie is around Vlad.

[Achilleaze]

59. republican TreasonWeasels betrayed America

Lock them up.