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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 02:19 PM Dec 2017

Advice to Men in Public Life (and others):

The whole photograph thing with others is tricky. What to do with your arms and hands can be puzzling, but there's a simple solution. I figured this out when I was just in high school and found myself standing with people to "get our picture took."

Simply clasp your hands behind your back lightly. That pulls your arms in so people can crowd together to fit into the frame. But, you're not dealing with putting your arm around someone's waist or shoulders. That's especially important when you don't really know the person next to you well enough to do that.

It's a simple solution that I've been using for over 50 years. No complaints from anyone. No offense taken by anyone. No chance of misplacing hands and arms by accident. No risk. No problem.

I decided on the "behind the back" thing, instead of hands in front, because that sort of looks like you're protecting your "junk" if you're a guy.

High school. I worked this out when I was about 14 years old to avoid embarrassing situations and alarming girls I barely knew.

It works great. I recommend it to one and all.

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brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
1. When I had my picture taken with Hillary Clinton, I stood next to her and never touched her...
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 02:23 PM
Dec 2017

...it worked out great.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
2. Yup. I'd do the same.
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 02:29 PM
Dec 2017

I've never been comfortable being overly familiar physically with girls or women. If there's some sort of close relationship, no problem, but I've always been aware that some women and men are made uncomfortable by contact that others think is no problem. Why take the chance of causing discomfort or offence?

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
4. I do not like anyone moving in too close to me...
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 02:40 PM
Dec 2017

but I never thought of it as sexual assault, I just don't feel comfortable with my space invaded. I'm just not into hugging or being hugged.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
5. I've always done the same thing
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 02:41 PM
Dec 2017

The manner you propose, MineralMan, has worked well for me but only for 40 years.

It's always awkward when someone puts their arm around one's shoulders or waist. I tend to reserve that kind of intimacy for the people I'm close enough to that the gesture is clearly understood.

Your recommendation is excellent. Have a great weekend!

trc

(823 posts)
6. But this leaves open the question of where your hands are...
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 02:48 PM
Dec 2017

can't see them, could be nefarious. Clasp your hands together in front of you and just stand there, smile if you desire to be friendly but otherwise touch no one. I understand that "OK" touching and inappropriate touching are the purview of the individual being touched, not the one doing the touching and that is as it should be. Clasping one's hands in front eliminates any issues of inadvertent or purposeful touching of the areas out of camera view as well as those in camera view. Keep comments neutral and never comment on physical appearance, what someone else looks like to you is none of their concern, nor is your opinion of them any of their concern. Just some thoughts. I taught 8th graders for 3 years and this was essentially my policy...that and never be in a room alone with a student, period. And trust me, I know that this is a miserable way to deal with young people who crave safe physical contact but these were the recommendations of my female principal. I was a male teacher in my mid 30's at the time.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
7. Really, I'm only concerned with the people standing next to me.
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 02:51 PM
Dec 2017

As long as I don't make those people uncomfortable, the issue never comes up.

mshasta

(2,108 posts)
10. Run for public office and you still
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 03:01 PM
Dec 2017

Going to have someone that got offended and now is mentally traumatized because you had your hands behind your back and they didn't know you did it on purpose to touch them from behind and now you are a perver for having your hands where no one can see them

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