I haven't heard one person on cable pointing out that African American families were torn apart

[malaise]

during slavery in response to Roy Moore's racist shit about America being great during slavery because families were united. What about African American families you fucking racists?

While they continue to normalize this shit, I'm not seeing condemnation.

[Angry Dragon]

1. I believe you should have a 'not' added to the title of your post

[malaise]

3. Haven't

[bobbieinok]

2. To Roy only whites are real people

[malaise]

4. Democratic Party leaders should be

screaming about this shit front and center

[HipChick]

8. Agree...too busy ousting Franken..

[Honeycombe8]

41. Yeah...they're busy eating their own. They haven't gotten around to you, yet.

But seriously, I haven't been following this story. Still fuming over the Franken thing. I just heard something about a comment he made about slavery being good times or something.

[hurple]

9. They're too busy

patting themselves on the back for booting Franken.

It's that whole "moral high ground" thing. Because, it's always worked out so well in the past. Hillary only won the election because when they went low, we went high.

Oh, wait... this computer is connected to that alternate universe where she lost. Forgot which desk I was at. God, I feel sorry for you people.

My bad.

[iluvtennis]

23. ++++++++++++Agree

[IronLionZion]

29. Democratic Party leaders are looking for the next Democrat to force out

the firing squad is eternally facing inwards in a circular pattern

[Girard442]

5. Specifically, the white folks in the big plantation mansion.

[sarge43]

20. Well, husband was out in the slave shacks raping the women.

So much for the sanctity of his marriage vows. His wife was well aware as she would see the results.

[Solly Mack]

7. I thought surely someone would point that out, but no.

[kydo]

10. Oddly, Morning Joe did.

Not just him everyone at the table did. The problem is moore's statement and his other statements are so loaded with crap and really stupid ancient things, it's hard to stay focused on one part for too long.

[malaise]

11. Good to hear that

[exboyfil]

14. Kind of like Trump

[Progressive dog]

37. Yes he did.

[nycbos]

12. For me it took me minute to get over the shock of that statement.

After the initial shock wore off then the gears inside my head started to turn.


Maybe people haven't moved to the 2nd. stage.

[malaise]

15. It was shocking

and he hasn't been condemned publicly

[nycbos]

16. I think many people are still in the process of digesting what was said.

The fact that someone would say it in 2017.


I hope this will be widely condemned when the shock wears off.

[TBA]

13. At one time I worked with several white dudes and they were always waxing poetic about the old days.

Specifically the early days of our country. Then I said, "yea it was great for white male landowners but sucked for literally everyone else."

I think they changed the subject.

[jalan48]

17. Human Slavery is evil. There's no "good" or "better" about it.

[nolabear]

18. I threw a FB fit about that. Not that it helps, but it felt good.

[malaise]

26. Good

[spanone]

19. there's a kkk robe in one of roy's closets....this guy shouldn't be allowed a tour of the senate

trump let everyone know that a child molester in the senate is better than a democrat.....

i can't believe we're having to have these conversations....

and i've given up on the media...

[H2O Man]

21. Recommended.

Moore has moral rabies.

[malaise]

25. Just saw them discussing this on Tapper

but the discussion was more general than specific.
ReTHUGs are OK with this. Tomorrow the Con heads to a Civil Rights Museum. Cynical and sick are the words for this. Bet he demeans African-Americans the way he demeaned Native Americans recently.

[7962]

22. They said exactly that on Morning Joe.

I don't have a clip, but I imagine is archived somewhere

[panader0]

24. Slavery--the good old days when owning people was cool.

[malaise]

32. This is as serious as MeToo

Wake up People! Dems need a press conference to deal with why John Lewis is right to stay away from Mississippi and make this the center of the discussion.

[safeinOhio]

38. If it was so good for the slaves and their families....

then, no problem switching it and making it legal to own white folks.

[peggysue2]

27. Have Nicole Wallace's show on and . . .

they were discussing it a few moments ago, mentioning Moore's comment about how slavery was good for families and how the country as a whole had direction back in the day.

Beyond the pale was the general consensus.

All agreed that there's no way Republicans unring this bell. Actually, there's no way Republicans drown out the megaphone of racist garbage circulating in Trump/Bannon world. Steve King proudly announced today or yesterday that diversity is not this country's strength.

It really is a cult terrified of future demographics; they dream of that perfect world where those in power were exclusively landed white men. People of color, women and anyone with an eye to the future need not apply.

[malaise]

33. But did she or anyone else point out that the families

of the slaves were destroyed so that the planters and their families could be so fucking united that they fought a war to ensure that African-American families were not even acknowledged let alone allowed to be united.

We fucking matter.

[peggysue2]

43. Didn't hear that specifically

But what you say, of course, is true. I had the show on in the background so they might have discussed more detail. Not sure. The panel was aghast; that much was very clear.

[malaise]

44. It is shocking

and deserves much more outrage.

[IronLionZion]

28. Whose lives matter?

They are constantly reminding us whose lives matter. It's not black lives. It's not brown lives. It's not Asian, Native American, or immigrant lives. It's not women's lives. It's not LGBT lives.

All lives matter except the above lives.

[malaise]

34. Well said

I''d love Obama to speak on this

[LakeArenal]

30. Your post reminds me of listening to...

The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down...

Ya take what ya need and ya leave the rest
But they should never have taken the very best..

So the South was upset they lost a war to keep humans in bondage, but now whine that their wealth built on the back of slaves is being taken, When if perhaps, the South had left "the very best in Africa", there wouldn't have had a war.

I get angry every time I hear it,



https://www.bing.com/search?q=the+band+the+night+they+drove+old+dixie+down&qs=LS&pq=the+band+the+ni&sk=AS1&sc=8-15&cvid=D2C9371A2E834DB39DDC67AC0D28E18D&FORM=QBRE&sp=2&ghc=1

PS. I call Moore's shit his Chains of Love....

[malaise]

31. You nailed it

Roy Moore wants slavery to be reintroduced to make America great again and the Con and his ReTHUG party support him.

[Lonestarblue]

35. Many people think slavery was not so bad.

Last edited Fri Dec 8, 2017, 07:54 PM - Edit history (1)

I’m certainly not one of them, but our history books have been so whitewashed over the past 30+ years that many people today do not even know our past. A reputable publisher described slaves as immigrants from Africa who came to this country to work! In a high school history book, no less! Some people seem to think that slaves had a good life because their masters housed and fed them! Some of you may have read the Huffington Post article earlier this week on our tax dollars going to charter religious schools, most of whom do not use real textbooks from legitimate sources like Pearson or McGraw, but from extremist religious companies that present all history in light of their own bias for white people being perfect. We are already seeing a population of young people who have no understanding of how the past has led us today or even of our role in the world. If we do not fight this nonsense, we will soon have nothing but fantasy world in this country.

[malaise]

36. Great post

[ananda]

39. I think I heard Al Sharpton say it this morning.

And someone on the same show.

[Rhiannon12866]

40. Rev Al was on with Nicolle Wallace on MSNBC and they discussed it

He talked about GOTV efforts among the African American community in Alabama. And I agree, how low can these bigoted fools go and still get away with it?? This whole situation - from Trump on down - just boggles the mind!

[malaise]

50. I just watched Rev Al on his program

Best discussion on the subject that I have seen.

[zentrum]

42. Shocking.

But horribly predictable—still.

[malaise]

48. Sadly

[zentrum]

54. In this country

….any systemic racist policy we block at the door, seems then to come in at the window; if we block the window, it comes in through the chimney. And on and on.

There always seems to be that deep structure that keeps recreating itself.

[malaise]

55. It's global and if the truth be told America is still ahead of many other countries

I know institutional racism is huge in America, but compared with most of Europe meritocracy still gives us better opportunities.

[applegrove]

45. White families united while the father raped other women who were

captive. Using the bible to justify rape, kidnapping, murder and torture. Even worse times for the human soul if you were part of that white family or the greater white community.

[malaise]

47. Well said

and they'd do it again given a chance.

[eppur_se_muova]

46. Mark Thompson said it on The Last Word w/LO'D Friday night.

Sort of amazaed I haven't seen it elswhere. You'd think Dems would jump all over it.

[malaise]

49. Precisely

They should have married it to why John Lewis is not going to Mississippi

[SummerSnow]

51. he left out African American families cause in his eyes we are not a real family were cattle

[malaise]

52. That's the truth

This should be a major discussion everywhere.

[SummerSnow]

53. I agree. Probably only hear about it in great length on Al Sharptons show.

[heaven05]

56. OH!!!!

Why I am soooooo surprised...NOT!!!! Not here, not there, not anywhere in trumps ameriKKKa will we EVER find statements related to your statement OP of fact. One of the major reasons for AA self punishment through ameriKKKan 'evolution' of society is because of the Slavery's Era's extreme cruelty in the example you gave and have no doubt, ameriKKKa's slavery was/is one of the most barbarous forms of human degradation and forced subservience EVER, perpetrated by a race that has never been superior to anyone.

And we now have one of the most egregious, ugliest examples of that 'racial superiority' in the fact of that idiot fool posing as a president, that at the least 66 MILLION ameriKKKan men and women wanted, while his underlings destroy our so-called democracy and that is actively trying to reinstate segregationist(AG sessions)procedure and thought in ameriKKKa.

And it is fact, that in recorded history, ameriKKKa's forced bondage of other human beings is one of the atrocious, inhuman and vicious examples of human degradation and forced bondage in recorded history. And the aftermath of our Slavery Era is now, still, generations later, on display for the whole world to see, as a excellent example of white racial/racist superiority in it's continuing consequence for people with noticeable melanin in their skin, WORLDWIDE. Racism is alive and very well in ameriKKKa this holiday and everyday.

Thank you for a reminder that this season is NOT happy for everyone.

[malaise]

57. Remember your slave owners learned from ours in the Caribbean

Read Thomas Thistlewood's Diary for their cruelty in Jamaica.
Lynch learned from the Barbadian owners of our people.
We're not allowed to have families so each generation finds a new way to lock up our men.

[heaven05]

58. Hear! Hear!!

sad, but true....+++ a million times