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Put on Rachel! The Dossier!!!!!!!!!! popcorn ready. (Original Post) lindysalsagal Dec 2017 OP
Prediction: Another Al Capone's vault from Rachel Adenoid_Hynkel Dec 2017 #1
It isn't intended to present new information - it's a summary and analysis The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2017 #3
Exactly Bradshaw3 Dec 2017 #8
No kidding. Comparison with Al Capone's vault is a huge insult. Hortensis Dec 2017 #23
No worries, Mueller has them now FakeNoose Dec 2017 #4
I clicked away as soon as Chris Hayes hyped it Awsi Dooger Dec 2017 #7
wow Dem2 Dec 2017 #9
There's a good reason that Rachel beats other networks in her time slot. VOX Dec 2017 #13
I agree. My husband and I both said this week that we're much more informed than we would be phylny Dec 2017 #21
She is the only news I do watch JonLP24 Dec 2017 #18
Yeah greeny2323 Dec 2017 #10
Imagine if Fox "News" viewers bailed on their people every time a story was later proven exaggerated Dem2 Dec 2017 #11
They keep their TVs LOCKED on Fox, no matter how deep the bullshit stacks up. VOX Dec 2017 #15
I've had people try to switch my TV to Faux Dem2 Dec 2017 #17
My cousin does that (turns the TV to Fox)... VOX Dec 2017 #19
Plus 1000 Bradshaw3 Dec 2017 #25
Not getting my hopes up... but PLEASE!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #26
Obviously an FBI political hit job Roland99 Dec 2017 #2
Watching. "A special Report" she says she was working on it a long time. riversedge Dec 2017 #5
Programming note!! The Dossier, A TRMS special report riversedge Dec 2017 #6
Thank you! VOX Dec 2017 #16
Good to get the pertinent events into the executive order: hindsight, and all that. lindysalsagal Dec 2017 #12
Short Version The River Dec 2017 #14
Shell break down who wrote it, who released it, and what we now know to be true. Watch The Dossier riversedge Dec 2017 #20
A good program for someone who hasn't been following the story. Vinca Dec 2017 #22
Yes but a good number here haven't heard about the dossier either Bradshaw3 Dec 2017 #24
 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
1. Prediction: Another Al Capone's vault from Rachel
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 09:58 PM
Dec 2017

With little to no new info

Ive seen the MSNBC hype machine in operation too many times. Remember the non-bombshell on the taxes?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,755 posts)
3. It isn't intended to present new information - it's a summary and analysis
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 10:02 PM
Dec 2017

of what's already known. It's complicated and I intend to watch it; she does a very good job of explaining complex situations.

Bradshaw3

(7,522 posts)
8. Exactly
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 10:11 PM
Dec 2017

Funny she's being preemptively attacked for something she never claimed. She's good at connecting the dots and that's what I expect tonight. I haven't seen anyplace else on the MSM, or any media outlets, do this. It is necessary because, as you write, it is a complicated tale and I would like to see the dossier taken more seriously..

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
23. No kidding. Comparison with Al Capone's vault is a huge insult.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:03 AM
Dec 2017

There was absolutely nothing there.

Is THAT the message being conveyed?

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
7. I clicked away as soon as Chris Hayes hyped it
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 10:11 PM
Dec 2017

Every time I try to give Rachel the benefit of a doubt it's nothing but the same style, same expressions, same repetitions, and same lack of understanding toward how much something is worth in the big picture. I can't respect someone whose instincts are so poor, no matter how hard she obviously works at it and even though I share her partisanship.

I enjoy all the other MSNBC night time hosts but Rachel is an automatic departure to CNN or elsewhere.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
13. There's a good reason that Rachel beats other networks in her time slot.
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 10:43 PM
Dec 2017

She has an analytical mind, and she comes at issues from oblique angles, but she always nails her points with deadeye accuracy. She will take you into the weeds, no question, but she's been working harder than anyone in pulling together information regarding the principals involved in the extraordinarily complex Russian collusion, money laundering, etc. I find her style engaging and even comforting, in that at least someone in the media has a bead on what's occurring in genuine reality. (Chris Hayes and Lawrence O'Donnell are excellent, as well.)

Your distaste for Rachel puts you in a microscopic minority of Democrats/progressives, but to each his own.

phylny

(8,381 posts)
21. I agree. My husband and I both said this week that we're much more informed than we would be
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:42 AM
Dec 2017

by watching her.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
18. She is the only news I do watch
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 11:09 PM
Dec 2017

Vice news tonight sometimes but I make sure to see every Rachel Maddow report and there is a recent book out it is good thing to talk about the dossier. People don't know what they're missing.

 

greeny2323

(590 posts)
10. Yeah
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 10:17 PM
Dec 2017

Snoozeville. I watch this stuff every day. I don't need a summary. I'm interested in what is new today.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
11. Imagine if Fox "News" viewers bailed on their people every time a story was later proven exaggerated
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 10:27 PM
Dec 2017

Yeah, neither can I.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
15. They keep their TVs LOCKED on Fox, no matter how deep the bullshit stacks up.
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 10:50 PM
Dec 2017

We can call them dumb, misinformed, "low-information," etc., but where they beat Democrats/progressives time and again is in discipline-- staying on message (no matter how false it is) and sticking together, no matter how insane their candidates or mouthpieces are, and they rarely shift their positions on issues.

It's a major tactical advantage that we lack.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
17. I've had people try to switch my TV to Faux
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 11:04 PM
Dec 2017

"Sorry not allowed, and no, I'm not giving you the unlock code"



I don't want to be anything like the low-brow zombies, but I do wish people could at least be pragmatic - Maddow is one of the best there is and I've already put two people on ignore in this thread for undercutting her - I don't want loyalty, but undercutting/need for purity is why we lose.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
19. My cousin does that (turns the TV to Fox)...
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 11:18 PM
Dec 2017

And I give her a ration for it. She's intelligent, college-educated, California born and raised, her late husband was a Phd in inorganic chemistry -- all markers for a potential Democrat. But she's got the Fox/bad news addiction, and her politics have soured accordingly. There are numerous stories like mine, and worse -- families have been torn asunder over that damn channel.

As for Rachel, I don't see how any Democrat/liberal/progressive would not find her to be the absolute all-star, "clean-up hitter" (apologies for the sports analogy) of reporting and fact-finding. It's no accident that she holds down the most-desired 9:00PM EST time slot.

Bradshaw3

(7,522 posts)
25. Plus 1000
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 01:50 PM
Dec 2017

Dems have to perfect their messages/themes/memes the way repubs have. Like it or not, it works.

riversedge

(70,248 posts)
6. Programming note!! The Dossier, A TRMS special report
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 10:10 PM
Dec 2017

Maddow Blog‏Verified account @MaddowBlog
23h23 hours ago

Programming note!!
The Dossier, A TRMS special report
9pm ET
You should watch it







lindysalsagal

(20,694 posts)
12. Good to get the pertinent events into the executive order: hindsight, and all that.
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 10:29 PM
Dec 2017

Her experts are the best. She lays out the timing so you can feel the Russian op moves as reactions to revelations that hurt fRump.

Russia was invested in fRump and moved strategically to counter-punch for their asset: fRump. Their timing, down to the minute, gives them away.

Steel is Putin's worst nightmare.

riversedge

(70,248 posts)
20. Shell break down who wrote it, who released it, and what we now know to be true. Watch The Dossier
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 01:27 AM
Dec 2017









buckeye chuck and 3 others Retweeted
MSNBC‏Verified account @MSNBC
2h2 hours ago

Coming up at 9pm ET, @maddow provides an in-depth look at the Trump Russia dossier. She’ll break down who wrote it, who released it, and what we now know to be true. Watch “The Dossier: A TRMS Special Report” tonight on @MSNBC


Vinca

(50,285 posts)
22. A good program for someone who hasn't been following the story.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:59 AM
Dec 2017

I found it to be a synopsis of everything most of us here already know.

Bradshaw3

(7,522 posts)
24. Yes but a good number here haven't heard about the dossier either
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 01:47 PM
Dec 2017

As I found out about a month ago when there was a thread on it. A number of posters had to ask what it was. So this was a good program as you said for those here and the millions who don't post here. I don't know why some on this thread are trying to minimize it. We need more programs like this in the MSM. We are in a battle for democracy, not just against dump and the repubs.

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