Seth Abramson just posted an amazing thread. Pls read if you still hate Comey.

[yodermon]

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He details how the corrupt NY FBI field office, guiliani, Eric prince, "true pundit", and others, through their leaks, lies and straight up obstruction of justice, ended up forcing Comey to send his famous letter to Congress. He did so to hurry up and process Weiner's laptop before the election and report the results, Because the NY field office had been sitting on it for months.

Please read!!

Link to tweet

Edited to add these (imo) stunning postscripts:

Link to tweet

[Chasstev365]

1. If Erik Prince gets sent to the guillotine, I volunteer to escort him to the platform!

[Ferrets are Cool]

4. I'm not for capital punishment, but for him I would make an exception

[magicarpet]

23. I would tie the knot on the neck tie so his neck looks all fancy and pretty.

Just before the blade of the guillotine slams down and cuts off the head of that effing Nazi/Fascist. Then the next customer for the nice sharp blade should be his effing Nazi/Fascist sister.

[PearliePoo2]

2. Oh Yeah. I'm reading it right now!

Seth is doing freakin' amazing work here!!

I don't think he even sleeps. He's a true patriot and the country and world REALLY NEED him right now!

I hope when all this is over, he writes a book!

[NewJeffCT]

7. agreed - Seth has been fantastic

And, a lot of it is compiling information from a lot of different media sources, both foreign and domestic, and sifting through the BS and adding his experience as a prosecutor and law professor on top of it.

[tanyev]

3. Marking to read later.

[Baitball Blogger]

5. So the FBI isn't apolitical.

Call me surprised.

[NewJeffCT]

10. Nope

a lot of the intel agencies have an over-representation of Republicans/RWers in their ranks- some, like Mueller and Comey - are strictly professional and have integrity, but not all of them.

[Baitball Blogger]

11. I figured they were connected to conservative voices in the community.

I never could engage them locally to get them to look into an issue that had strong Civil Rights implications.

They won't be apolitical until they replace the stodgy conservatives that follow a mission that is tainted.

[brush]

17. So far I agree with you on Mueller but not Comey. Comey did not have to send the Oct. letter...

before investigating the so-called "new" emails. He had to know that letter would be leaked and that it would swing the election to trump.

IMO he was just another partisan hack who was perfectly willing to violate the Hatch Act 12 days before the election.

Remember, he was also investigating trump. He didn't reveal that in his letter. And what professional LEO announces something like that before he investigates.

The investigation quickly found the "new" emails were duplicates.

What was the rush?

There was absolute no need to send that letter unless he himself had the same agenda as the rogue agents.

And who the fuck was in charge of the FBI anyway, him or his underlings, for God's sake. He could have put the hammer down on them at any time if they dared to pressure him.

[JHB]

32. Did you read the thread? It addreses that specifically.

[brush]

36. I read the thread. Seems Comey wasn't too concerned about True Pundit, wasn't trying to find out...

who.

Sounds to me he knew since he didn't do anything about it.

Hell, it might've been him.

Still a partisan hack to me, plus, since he was in the revealing mode on Oct. 28, 2016, why he didn't disclose the concurrent trump investigation which would've been even-handed as that would've impacted trump's campaign as well.

I'd like to believe he eventually realized his monumental screw up had suborned our election and history, whereupon he consequently tried to redeem himself with his investigation but was thwarted by being fired.

Fuck him and his whole Shakespeareanly-tragic, hoisted-on-his-own-petard-fired ass.

I hope he lives to be 100 and wanders in the desert, occasionally tweeting biblical missives about trump/Mueller in hopes of gaining some sympathy for being instrumental in installing the unfit, chaotic, pussy-grabbing debacle we have in the WH.

[riversedge]

6. k for visibility

[Hortensis]

8. I want Comey in PRISON. But huge warning for source.

Abramson's claims have sometimes been found to have very loose, even no, association with facts. This is a recurring pattern, and he is neither a respected nor a really well connected source.

I confess all discussion on this subject is welcome to me because I believe parts of the FBI were obviously involved in throwing the election to the Republicans -- we saw it! -- and that large parts of the MSM are just as obviously protecting them. With any luck this'll be spread enough that right-wing media will have to deny.

But for this, CONSIDER THE SOURCE and don't self-sucker.

Don't be a pub.

[OnDoutside]

14. At least Abramson has put his name to it, which neither you nor I are willing to do. So he's already

ahead in credibility in my book.

[Hortensis]

15. He makes money and gets to have a big little name also.

So would that make him, what, 3 times as credible as you are to your own mind?

Silly stuff.

Give me a hand here, OnD. What's the difference between pubs and dubs who stuff their minds with lies? Start of a good joke, but nothing's coming.

[OnDoutside]

18. 5 times at least ! What also helps is no one I've seen from the Clinton World have pushed back

against him. I'm wary of anyone rubbishing someone who is clearly pro Democratic, that's all. Good luck to him if he can make a few bucks as well, I've no issue with it.

[Hortensis]

19. He makes money and gets to have a big little name also.

So would that make him, what, 3 times as credible as you are to your own mind?

Silly stuff.

Give me a hand here, OnD. What's the difference between pubs and dubs who stuff themselves with lies? Start of a good joke, but nothing's coming.

[demmiblue]

21. Yeah, I am seeing more chatter about him.

Democrats: Please, Please Stop Sharing Seth Abramson’s Very Bad Tweets



Writer and recovering graduate student Anne Helen Petersen wrote this on Monday*:

The people sharing the most Fake News in my FB feed aren't Trump Voters. They're lefty academics. WHICH IS SUPER EMBARRASSING.
— Anne Helen Petersen (@annehelen) December 4, 2017

Petersen elaborated to say that she was specifically referring to acquaintances posting the work of British quasi-journalist Louise Mensch and New Hampshire writing professor Seth Abramson. Both are key figures in the #Resistance tweetstorm community, and both have been covered and dismantled before, but the recent flurry of news involving Michael Flynn and Trump lawyer John Dowd’s obstruction-of-justice miniscandal has them cooking again.

Mensch is perhaps most famous for having written in May that the “marshal of the Supreme Court” had spoken to Donald Trump about his allegedly impending impeachment. (In reality world, the marshal of the Supreme Court is the person who handles security at the Supreme Court building, not an illuminati supercop.) She’s now “reporting” that, in addition to that still-impending impeachment, Trump has already been indicted a bunch of times. (The indictments are ostensibly under seal.)

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/12/sharing-seth-abramson-not-once-not-ever.html

I take him with a grain of salt. Also, this article does contain a falsehood: Louise Mensch is not a part of the #Resistance (quite the opposite).

[Hortensis]

22. Embarrassing when I think of people coming to DU,

thinking this is our level, and backing right out.

[yodermon]

47. This was my tweeted reply to that stupid article:

Link to tweet

[Bernardo de La Paz]

24. Is that so? Point to a set of claims that have "no association with facts". Please.

[Hortensis]

25. Better yet, google and start going down the hits yourself.

Vetting sources is a duty to self, not something you should be asking others to do for you.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

27. Your assertion. Ball in your court. Does not match with my experience of Abramson. . . . nt

[Mme. Defarge]

30. So, you want Comey in prison.

On what charge? Should he first have a fair trial? Or do you simply want to lock him up because you consider him a political enemy?

[Hortensis]

40. Strange post from behind the creepy name "Mme. Defarge."

Go try to bloody someone else.

[Mme. Defarge]

44. I want to believe

we can all learn from our mistakes, knowing first hand how that whole mob thing goes. Now, I just knit.

Peace,

[Hortensis]

46. Peace.

[questionseverything]

38. you need to provide a link or some kind of proof for that character assassination

everything i have read from him has been well sourced

[Botany]

9. Treason

27/ But here's what you *really* need to understand: the FBI quickly became aware of this website—at the highest levels—and *acknowledged*, internally, that the people behind True Pundit had access to intel from *current* FBI agents.

Even *James Comey* was aware of True Pundit.
11 replies 139 retweets 453 likes
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28/ And it *matters* that James Comey was (a) aware of True Pundit, and (b) believed they had sources within the FBI.

Moreover, it *matters* that he knew—and he did—that True Pundit was angling for sources *inside* the Clinton probe, and that Comey's deputy thought he had them.

******

So Comey knew that the Hillary "dirt" that he went public w/late in the election came from Russia?

Guillotine set up on capital hill

I hope Mueller is on this.

[ancianita]

12. Ouch. Then using Comey's firing for an obstruction of justice charge is out?

[lunamagica]

33. +1

[questionseverything]

39. i wish i had faith in mueller

[ancianita]

13. Could Abramson be trying to discredit the whole FBI through the actions of a cadre of retireds??

Couldn't this be used by right wing media?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

26. It is commonly known (not proven) that Giuliani has a cadre of ACTIVE agents in NYC FBI office.

Well known, but not proven beyond a reasonable down.

Abramson pointing to the public record of that website in his serial tweet is pretty conclusive that there is a tight group of corrupt FBI agents who are rabidly pro-Trump in NYC. But there was lots of circumstantial evidence before.

(Wish he'd just post the article on a site and tweet links. Serial tweets are so lame.)

I do not think Abramson wishes to discredit the whole FBI, just Giuliani's own wolf pack.

[ancianita]

29. I'd just hate to see any Congressional committee run with any of this info on camera.

[Hortensis]

42. They won't. Bernardo's correct that this is very

well known. These people have been too powerful for FBI directors to take down, so just imagine what investigation would turn up.

As for worrying about "optics," or whatever, remember that a nearly half the nation can't name who controls the senate and house, or which is which, and has trouble remembering which party is in power and can't name any politician but the president, including their own congressman.

[ancianita]

35. Thank you. I've read that Giulani's rep comes from his being on the 1976 Terrorism Task Force,

(which also made him the expert mayor by 9/11/2001); that Giuliani headed up the FBI decimation of the Five Crime Families of New York in the 80's (The Pizza Connection investigation that resulted in over 700 indictments in the US and Italy, with near as many convictions); that Comey worked as prosecutor under him in New York.

At one point Mueller decided to move all terrorism work from New York to Washington against Giuliani's urging. I guess that's partly behind why he's kept a sympathetic group after all these years.

For all his silly cross-dress exposure in media, Giuliani has heavy hitter status in law enforcement circles. I'm not sure Giuliani can be discredited.

[tomp]

16. comey made the wrong choice.

whatever the background story is (and I've been aware of this story for a while), his action had a profound negative effect on the nation. there'e no getting around that. whether it was purposeful, calculated, coerced, or accidental, it was the wrong choice.

[StevieM]

28. I don't think there was any legitimate choice to be made. His actions were illegitimate. (eom)

[lunamagica]

34. Exactly. His actions hurt and are still huting us.

[mountain grammy]

20. Bookmarked for reading later..

I don't hate Comey, but don't really trust him.. been seeing pieces of this. Will read later.

[octoberlib]

31. To back up Seth, The Daily Beast

has an article by Wayne Barrett that was written some months confirming all this. Seth has more detail , though.

[highplainsdem]

37. K&R

[yodermon]

41. UPDATE : He has written some postscript to his thread, e. g. :

Link to tweet

[Lisa0825]

43. ThreadReaderApp unroll bot is finally working... here is the unrolled link...

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/939432544008921088

[oxbow]

45. And again, they accuse others of what they themselves are doing

The anti-Clinton elements in the bureau are the very ones putting on this kabuki act about pro-Clinton agents repeatedly suppressing investigations into her “crimes.” This explains much of the rabid anti-Clinton messaging that has been infesting social media over the last year or two.

[pnwmom]

48. One of the few Bernie/Trump people I know was my dad's next-door neighbor.

I was talking to him on the phone a few months before the election and was shocked to hear him pushing Trump and being so vehemently anti-Hillary. (My Dad was gay, and they had been good friends while he was alive.)

I tried to reason with him but it finally got so bad that I hung up on him. I don't think I've ever hung up on anyone in my life. But before I did that, I heard an earful about why he was so certain Hillary was crooked as hell. He had these retired pals, guys who worked in the NY FBI, and they were feeding him this line of crap. And he had swallowed all the crap and was barfing it all out to me.

Months later I heard that parts of the NY FBI were in the tank with the Russians (helping protect the Russian mobsters there) and with Trump, and then everything fell into place. Those were the kinds of people Dad's friend had been brainwashed by.

I wonder what would have happened if my Dad were still alive when his friend went to the dark side . . .