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Human Resource departments have sexual harassment procedures (Original Post) SHRED Dec 2017 OP
They do have one in the senate. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2017 #1
It's the new campaign issue leftstreet Dec 2017 #2
Great article here... SHRED Dec 2017 #4
+1 leftstreet Dec 2017 #7
Agreed dalton99a Dec 2017 #11
Procedures designed to protect the employer and not the employee. alarimer Dec 2017 #3
Good point. It's not like these policies deter harassment, or effectively educate people on how to WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2017 #5
Not true SHRED Dec 2017 #8
Definitely diferent in the private sector -- and whether there are unions involved, as you note WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2017 #9
The massive company I worked at had serious guidelines but HR was all about protecting the company.. bettyellen Dec 2017 #10
Not necessarily SHRED Dec 2017 #6
I think the Senate's policy on sexual harassment is backwards NotASurfer Dec 2017 #12

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,359 posts)
1. They do have one in the senate.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 12:48 PM
Dec 2017

It's been described as "toothless" and "a joke," which is why they're calling for an overhaul.

Sexual harassment policies vary widely; there isn't one right way to write one. If you sexually harass someone who isn't a co-worker while off the job, for example, it may not fall under the policy as written.

leftstreet

(36,109 posts)
2. It's the new campaign issue
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 12:50 PM
Dec 2017

We protect women from waist-grabbing photo ops!

It's just too much work to fight the GOPers on the very policies that entrench sexism by gutting social services and depressing wages, thereby keeping women powerless and impoverished and systemically victimized.

But hey! We're better than Republicans because we have ZERO TOLERANCE for, uh, everything else!

dalton99a

(81,526 posts)
11. Agreed
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 01:24 PM
Dec 2017
Accusations against Franken, while worthy of inquiry, are not in the same legal or moral universe as the crimes of which Roy Moore, Harvey Weinstein, and numerous others, including the President himself, stand accused. Franken asked for the ethics investigation and has apologized for his behavior. And it should be noted that Franken is not accused of anything like pedophilia, or workplace harassment, or violent assault...

But Democrats didn’t ask us, and by deserting Senator Franken, they confirmed they don’t understand gender politics or much about sexual misconduct in the workplace at all. There is no greater disservice to women than creating an equivalency—a completely false equivalency—between the behavior of which Senator Franken is accused and the accusations against (Senator-to-be?) Moore, which include abduction and assault of a child. And yet this is the the false equivalency affirmed by Senator Gillibrand when she called for Franken’s resignation...

Lumping everything from ass grabbing to violent sexual assault, pedophilia, and rape together will not serve to heighten public outage at the type of behavior of which Franken is accused. It is far more to likely generate less outrage at the worst, most violent and predatory sexual crimes at the other end of the spectrum.

And to some survivors who know just how seriously sexual misconduct can damage lives and derail careers, this equivalency is an incredibly insensitive dismissal. While the notion of “zero tolerance” is nice, many victims of sexual assault and harassment can tell the Democrats that what they’ve endured is considerably worse than anything mentioned in connection with Franken.


alarimer

(16,245 posts)
3. Procedures designed to protect the employer and not the employee.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 12:50 PM
Dec 2017

They are meant to stave off lawsuits for harassment and nothing more.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,359 posts)
5. Good point. It's not like these policies deter harassment, or effectively educate people on how to
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 12:52 PM
Dec 2017

comport themselves in the workplace.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
8. Not true
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 12:54 PM
Dec 2017

I attended many required classes at my job which were very enlightening and helpful.
This was the public sector. Maybe different in the private sector?

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,359 posts)
9. Definitely diferent in the private sector -- and whether there are unions involved, as you note
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 12:57 PM
Dec 2017

elsewhere.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
10. The massive company I worked at had serious guidelines but HR was all about protecting the company..
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 01:09 PM
Dec 2017

And also to give demerits to whoever the managers want to put some pressure on. Their plan for years had been to shed employees to overseas and they were too cheap to give everyone severance, so many people are under the constant threat of being fired. A good friend of mine has been under their lens for years, she's really broken and can't find a comparable job in NY. Some HR depts suck.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
6. Not necessarily
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 12:52 PM
Dec 2017

I was a union steward. I have been involved in hearings at work.
But this was the public sector.

NotASurfer

(2,151 posts)
12. I think the Senate's policy on sexual harassment is backwards
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 01:25 PM
Dec 2017

It appears their sexual harassment policy is one that spells out the approved process for engaging in sexual harassment

They need to replace it with an anti-harassment policy including transparent remediation and consequences

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