Kamala Harris called on Franken to resign, as did Elizabeth Warren, Cory Booker, and Bernie Sanders

[oberliner]

Are they all now disqualified as potential candidates for 2020?

[avebury]

1. Yes. nt

[rzemanfl]

78. +1 n/t.

[MrsMatt]

156. + 100

It shows a serious lack of judgement, and I'm afraid it's going to bite the entire Democratic party in the ass.

Mark my words, Franke's resignation (particularly how it was coerced) will prove to be a watershed moment and will fracture the party in ways that can't be measured at this time.

I'm ready for a viable third party, after the Franken betrayal

[fallout87]

161. +1

[LexVegas]

2. Its just pouting and whining. It will run its course. nt

[greeny2323]

8. Nope

Believe me, we are NOT going away. We will NOT be quiet. A good man was railroaded out of the Senate.

To answer the thread, these people will get no money from me. And when they ask I will tell them why.

[LexVegas]

11. ...

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

51. Why so mean?

[Raster]

145. aren't you supposed to say something like...

..."your concern is noted"?

[lunamagica]

28. No, I won't forget. Please, don't speak for us

[JimBeard]

90. You really know how to feed a rabid dog don't you by

minimizing my opinion. Thank you for advancing your superior attitude.

[Tipperary]

149. It seems certain posters here feel the need to gloat. I am trashing any gloat threads.

Childishness is boring.

[LBM20]

107. The "pouters and whiners" were these FAKE RIGHT WING ACCUSERS doing a political hit job.

A "pouter and whiner" is some PETTY person who tries to say that taking a photo in room full of people with someone who simply puts his arm around your waist for the photo constitutes "groping." That person needs her head examined. And so do the "pouting and whining" senators who diminished their own cause by turning themselves into a political lynch mob.

[Demsrule86]

134. Not for me... I was already not voting for Sen. Sanders in the 2020 primary because of his stance

on identity politics. I will not vote for any named above in a primary. I am not whining about it ...I feel they showed a lack of judgement and were disloyal. In my opinion, none of them should even run. We need a strong Democratic leader who will not cave to the Republicans. Of course, I would vote for a yellow dog or any of the above in a General should they win the Democratic nomination, but I feel none of these folks will even come close.

Also, I don't believe any of them have what it takes to win a general so I sincerely hope we find someone else to run. I am very shaken and disappointed in all who piled on Sen. Franken and depriving him of due process. Also, I fear we may have a Merrick Garland situation here where the GOP refuses to seat Franken's replacement. Already, we will go nine months without a representative in the House to replace Conyers...so dumb not to let him ride it out and not run for re-election. We have close votes on taxes, social security, Medicare etc. coming up. We need every single Democrat to remain until 18 and 20.

[fallout87]

162. We'll see about that.

Run Gillibrand, Harris, or anyone else that railroaded a fine senator at our own peril.

[LisaL]

3. But Kirsten is taking most of the credit.

Not fair.

[JimBeard]

70. There was a count taken and it was more than Heir Hilderbran Purposeful. mispelling

There was quite a bit of approval.

[Blue_true]

86. I have not seen her taking credit.

She has been a longtime fighter against sexual harassment and abuse in every area of American life. Why should she stop talking about those efforts?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

106. She shouldn't, as those issues are critically important ones...

But, taking accusations of sexual harrassment/assault SERIOUSLY should not be equated with BELIEVING those accusations without granting adequate due process to the accused and considering all of the evidence that's attainable.

We ALL should be talking about this very subject in its totality. Indeed, Franken's situation seemed the perfect "teachable moment," which got lost in the "lynch mob" mentality... such a shame.

[LisaL]

111. Yes, if you going to override the will of the voters who elected him, at least give the guy a

hearing first. Half of the allegations were anonymous, for crying out loud.
We don't even know who half of his accusers are.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

114. Absolutely... it's kinda shocking how the whole thing went down...

and the total disregard for "We The People." Hopefully, we'll have the final word.

[Demsrule86]

137. We are in complete agreement on this...I was shocked and disappointed.

[madaboutharry]

4. If these are the primary choices I won't participate, however

I will vote for any democrat in the general election. I think that is a completely valid position to hold.

[tazkcmo]

5. Stir stir stir. n/t

[elleng]

17. Right.

[guillaumeb]

6. I believe that ONLY 30 of the 48 Democratic Senators did so.

Only 30.

[brooklynite]

38. ...and none of the remaining 18 said Franken should stay in office.

Neither did any of the House members. Neither did any of the Governors.

Who does that leave you?

[guillaumeb]

39. Indeed.

Where does it leave all of us?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

54. President Amy Klobuchar.

[Pachamama]

128. +1000

Agree - and I appreciated what she said and went on the record on this topic.

[treestar]

135. Not saying anything is OK

And a lot better than affirmatively saying it.

[Demsrule86]

142. Those who kept their mouths shut and waited for an investigation...showed judgement so it

leaves me with many good candidates to choose from...Gillibrand ET AL not included.

[StevieM]

59. 38 Democrats called for him to resign.

9 Democrats did not, and Franken himself is the 48th member of the caucus.

Of the 9 who didn't, 3 are members of the Senate Ethics committee, and could not comment on the matter. That leaves 6, one of whom was his fellow senator from Minnesota, Amy Klobuchar.

The other five were: Richard Blumenthal, Tim Kaine, Joe Manchin, Chris Van Hollen and Mark Warner.

I hope Chris Van Hollen becomes Senate majority leader in 2028.

[Alice11111]

83. Thank you so much for this information. I was trying to figure

It out earlier. Unfortunately, both my Dem Senators, went the " no due process" route. I just learned that, and now they shall hear from me.

It gives me more appreciation for Tim Kaine and the others. Courage to buck the herd until they have the facts.

[CTyankee]

96. Chris Murphy of CT didn't sign on either, along with Blumenthal...

I like him a lot...

[StevieM]

99. Yes he did.

http://www.myrecordjournal.com/News/State/Murphy-joins-calls-for-Franken-to-resign

[CTyankee]

146. I read that he did not, along with Blumenthal...

I will call his office next week. I want to know the Senator's reason if this article is true and my article was not. I will post what I am told by his staff.

[guillaumeb]

100. Thank you for the correction. eom

[Bettie]

75. Oh, and our nominee doesn't have to be a sitting senator

So, there's that too.

[Alice11111]

81. !!!

[tonedevil]

7. Yes /nt

[Kirk Lover]

9. Yes it's high time we go after everybody! Let's eliminate them one by one until

there is no lynch mob left.

[JimBeard]

72. I believe you have struck upon a unique idea. We could call it eating your own....

How does that sound?

[Bettie]

77. We won't have to

the bar has been set now.

Any accusation whatsoever means immediate resignation.

[Demsrule86]

136. Only those who showed the poor judgement to attack a sitting Democratic Senator who was being

brought down by the right wing smear machine.

[MoonRiver]

10. Yes eom

[JI7]

12. Nobody is disqualified but people will take it into consideration during the primary

[Kingofalldems]

13. I am counting 4 threads from you on this topic today.

Maybe you can combine them into one? I don't get what you are driving at. What is your central point and do you need 4+ threads to make that point?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029955804

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9954134

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9955662

[tazkcmo]

23. It's called uniting the party.

sarcasm

[JimBeard]

74. I think maybe people are interested in the subject.

Did anyone else come up with the same count?

[Demsrule86]

138. I have concluded that the poster is a fan of the Sen. Gillibrand. There were many Anti-Franken

posts before the resignation speech. Then we got...how it is the Senator's 'time' (no it isn't)...now we are called names if we don't agree that it is just fine to throw a sitting Senator under the bus because of right wing lies and innuendo...anonymous posters...just my opinion.

[Tipperary]

150. I believe it is called gloating. It is unattractive, is it not?

He has not left yet and I am glad.

[blue cat]

14. Yes

We need a fighter. I was so disappointed in those that you mentioned. They rolled over like a trained dog.
I won't forget.

[AntiFascist]

15. It depends on how qualified they are on other issues...

while the #metoo movement is incredibly important, it is not the be-all end-all of what makes a qualified presidential candidate.

Also, as a former Attorney General of California, I wonder how Kamala Harris feels about Franken not being given the opportunity to defend himself against all of his accusers?

[tazkcmo]

29. Judging by her actions

Not much.

[dhol82]

30. Well, she didnt seem to mind the piling on at all. Did not see her crying at the presser.

How do you think she feels about the lack of investigation of the facts and lack of an ethics hearing?
You know, with her having been an AG?

[JimBeard]

80. She seems to have gained weight. I hope not so diabetes will not end such an honest and above board

person with the brains of a pea. It takes a real genius to surrender.

[Demsrule86]

139. Not to me...you have to be willing to stand up to the GOP...they didn't.

[mn9driver]

16. Their knee jerk mob action backstabbing has been noted.

Check back in 2020.

[JimBeard]

85. OH, its going to be sooner than 2020. The mid terms are less than a year away and we have to defend

23 seats to the republicans 8 seats. Be sure to Alienate your own party on the false hopes that it will bring more people over to vote Democratic and the gut thumping of its own party to remain stead fast.

[Cattledog]

18. They all have to explain why the rush to judgement...

when these allegations were all suspect. Then they have to earn back the respect they lost. I won't support them in the primaries. I think we need to look outside of Congress for our candidate.

[Egnever]

19. For me yes

In my opinion it showed a serious lack of leadership an unwillingness to fight when the going got rough.

It is easy to mouth platitudes much harder to stand up for what was right.

Barring some solid evidence they showed me what they would do in the face of adversity.

So yes in my case they have disqualified themselves.

They could still walk it back and I would.likely forgive them.if they did because that would be doing the right thing in a difficult situation. I am not holding my.breathe.

I never forgave anyone who voted for the IWR not Kerry not Clinton not schummer none of them it was a similar case where the evidence was all out there and they chose to ignore it and bow to the optics instead. We are still paying for that vote. In schummer case he now has two strikes.

I voted for Kerry and Clinton in the general but both of them.lost. I think the results would be the same.should any of these folks get the nod

[Pachamama]

129. +1000

Completely Agree

[Sophia4]

20. They knew they would have to compete with him for the 2020 nomination.

What to think?????

But I have a feeling that we have by no means heard the last from Al Franken.

I love the man, but I respect his decision. He is one of the few honest people who have served in our recent Congresses.

[JackInGreen]

21. Mores the pity

Yes.



Though I'm more likely to forgive anyone that didn't start their day with it as their top priority, or immediately chase the 'YAY ME I DID SOMETHING' moment.

[rockfordfile]

22. Don't know yet

Have any of them called on Trump to resign?

[dhol82]

32. Yeah, I keep waiting to hear any of these women start calling for an investigation into the orange o

Haven’t heard a peep yet.
Anybody? Heard anything from any of them?

[Mike Nelson]

24. No, but...

...it's something people will remember during primaries. I think they thought this would put they one step ahead; I think it puts them a step behind. Still, they have time to mend fences... We need to participate in the voting and enthusiastically support the nominee - even if it wasn't our first choice.

[JimBeard]

87. Yes, they have already shown me my choice doesn't matter....

I thought it was supposed to be the party of choice.?

[lunamagica]

25. Yes

[dchill]

26. Yes.

[oasis]

27. Hell yes!

[HopeAgain]

31. No I don't see the Franken issue as so clear cut

I'm not happy, but it's not worth burning the party down over.

[JimBeard]

89. They just did burn it down already.

[misanthrope]

33. Did Cory Booker's financial industry masters give him the OK first

or did he just intuit their desires?

[brooklynite]

42. I assume they told Elizabeth Warren and she passed the message on.....

...since the women came out first.

[Vinca]

34. No, but I'm horribly disappointed in all of them.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

35. Just Harris, Booker and Warren.

[bettyellen]

82. So you now hate all the Dems listed? Shocking.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

115. .

[Demsrule86]

140. Of course not. I don't hate Democrats. But I am angry with them...more importantly,

I don't want any of them to be president. We can look outside of the Senate or perhaps at those who did not rush to judgement and showed loyalty to a fellow Democrat...and if McConnell refuses to seat Franken's replacement... these senators would be helping the GOP push through pernicious legislation...inadvertently for sure...but still it shows a lack of judgement, and we need a fighter. to run for president someone who can stand up to right wing attacks.

[IphengeniaBlumgarten]

36. Why start so many threads trying to elicit support for Kirsten Gillebrand? Puzzling.

[oberliner]

37. She has been getting trashed here by many

I think it's important to defend her, as she has been a terrific Democratic senator. I'm surprised more folks aren't sticking up for her.

[IphengeniaBlumgarten]

41. Ah. Well many think that Franken was terrific, too.

Wish she had not been in such a rush to judge him.

[JimBeard]

91. Terriffic by bashing the Clintons. How about taking a swipe at Obama or Jimmy Carter.

That is a wonderful idea.

[Demsrule86]

141. Deservedly...and I read all of your OP's...you were very hard on Franken.

I will never vote for her...if she wins the nomination which I think she won't now, I would vote for her. But I dislike her, and that won't ever change. I value loyalty.

[Gabi Hayes]

40. quit spamming, please. you've made your pointless points way too many times

STOP!!!!

[oberliner]

43. This is a discussion board, isn't it?

And there is an ignore feature available, is there not?

There should be a discussion about the way some DUers are willing to dismiss completely almost all of the senate Democrats so easily.

It's just not right.

[Gabi Hayes]

46. what's just not right is to interminably push the bogus accomplishments of a soon-to-be has been

who will shortly discover that she's torpedoed her thankfully brief, Icarus-like career, and her supporters will be soon revealed as laughable camp followers who can't see what's really happening

when the dust clears we'll see who's on the wrong side of this one

only the self-deluded are siding with this female Duddy Kravitz

thx for the advice on the ignore, tho. forgot about that one

cheerio!

Hillary for Senate in whatever year KG's term ends

[Gabi Hayes]

50. my next several clicks

will be to send these threads to the trash can, to which they so richly deserve to be sent

I resolutely urge the rest of you to put an end to the interminable pot stirring


how about some support Al threads, instead?

[Bibluca]

164. Delicious!

That satisfied me like a juicy steak.

[R B Garr]

47. Who are you most CONCERNED about?? nt

[mvd]

44. Well, it was not smart. But I wouldn't say disqualifying

I want to hear from all the Democrats what Bernie said - suggesting that Trump also resign.

[treestar]

45. Yes

Though I admit that by 2020 I may forget this.

Not as bad as Iraq war vote that we tolerated

[Irish_Dem]

49. Who benefits from Dem conflict of this magnitude? nt

[kacekwl]

52. I think it was a big mistake by all involved.

As to future support will definitely make a difference.

[BaileyBill]

53. Has a single Republican called for Al's resignation?

They didn't need to, did they?

[Squinch]

55. Staaaaaaaaahhhhhp! Will you just staaaahhhp! And I'm one of the ones who used to stick up for you.

But just stop.

[oberliner]

56. Please stand up for Gillibrand with me

It's important that DU-ers understand how great she has been.

[R B Garr]

60. You are really running out of material...

We need a Jumped the Shark smilie.

[oberliner]

68. It is unfortunate

I really thought more people would want to share positive stories about Gillibrand in light of the pounding she's taken here recently.

[R B Garr]

69. That's almost funny. She runs a duly elected and wildly popular and effective

Democratic Senator out of office over some internet twitter hashtag based on anonymous allegations, and you claim *she* is the victim.

[WoonTars]

163. Unbelievable...

[Squinch]

62. No. Because you are doing nothing but picking at a painful scab. And you know it.

And all these posters are correct: where are the loud cries for Trump's admitted molestations to be investigated, and where are the cries for him to resign.

None of our people have been tenacious or vocal about that.

[oberliner]

65. That is absolutely not my intention

I have watched poster after poster trash Gillibrand and it has made me angry. She has been an outstanding member of the Senate and no one here is defending her.

Obviously Trump should be investigated - Trump should be forced to resign - and every Democrat should be tenacious about that.

That said, the attacks on Gillibrand has been excessive - and it's important (in my view) to stand up for her.

[Drahthaardogs]

109. No one agrees with your position.

How many threads does it take before you get that? You spammed constant anti-Franken threads and now this?

Everyone is pissed.

No one agrees with her actions

You are just rubbing salt into an open wound.

You are not changing minds.

Please, make like Elsa and "Let it Go!"

[oberliner]

113. Nothing you have written here is true

People do agree that Gillibrand has been a great senator. There are numerous positive comments about her on DU, especially prior to this month.

Not everyone is pissed - just some folks are and they make a lot of noise about it.

Lots of people agree with her actions - in fact, most Democrats in the Senate, from Elizabeth Warren to Cory Booker, backed her up.

I am not rubbing salt into any wounds - I am urging people who are upset with Gillibrand to remember that she has actually been a great Senator, fighting for causes and issues DU believes in and supports.

I hope I have changed a few minds - perhaps the quieter ones.

And I will not let it go. I will stand up and defend Democrats who I think are being treated unfairly.

[tammywammy]

126. "Everyone is pissed."

That's not true at all. A very vocal part of DU is pissed. I'm not pissed. My friends in real life aren't pissed.

[Drahthaardogs]

131. Perhaps you should review these threads.

It's about 20 to 1 for pissed vs. not.

The small vocal part ( the ones who have made thread after thread for weeks against Al) are NOT pissed. Everyone else is outraged.

[Demsrule86]

143. +10000

[blue cat]

127. No way

I call on her to resign. Even my freeper friend thinks she went too far. She's a nut case.

[JimBeard]

93. No thank you. I don't stand up for stupid.

[Squinch]

112. Though you have been known to reply to the wrong post.

[JimBeard]

116. You mind verifying that. Please site post number.

[Squinch]

117. Seriously? Do your own secretarial work. You responded to the wrong post.

[JimBeard]

118. No, it was directed toward you and your name. You may not like it but it was my intent that it be

mailed to YOUR NAME.

[Squinch]

119. Then your post makes no sense whatsoever. My post said nothing about standing up.

[bluestarone]

57. would be nice if

NO ONE would respond to these all i gotta say

[parkerMcDavis]

58. I think so....yes

[Thrill]

61. But have any of them called for Trump to resign?

[intheozone]

63. Pretty much, in my book. nt

[AlexSFCA]

64. if moore loses, I forgive them

[Demsrule86]

144. One has nothing to do with the other.

[Progressive dog]

66. Of course they are

even though Franken resigned. He's one of those Democrats that agreed with Harris, Warren,etc. that he should resign.

[Turbineguy]

67. I'm kind of curious who the republicans will pick.

Sarah Palin is obviously out of the running as being far too qualified.

[still_one]

94. That won't happen, but what can very likely happen is that Minnesota may lose one or more seats in

the Senate to republicans, and that should have everyone concerned, because if that happens, and just one of the liberal judges on the SC steps down, you can kiss Roe V Wade goodbye, along with rights women have fought so hard to gain in the last 50 years.

[roamer65]

71. I agree with Michael Moore. I want Tom Hanks as president.

[True Dough]

108. Which Tom Hanks?

[OnDoutside]

73. Yes, of course. Bad judgement in a candidate is not what is required.

[SeaDoo77]

76. Yes They Are Disqualified

Period

[SeaDoo77]

79. Jay Inslee For President

[roamer65]

105. ..

[leftstreet]

130. +1

[GOPricklepants]

84. United we stand/Divided we fall

Do you want to be right or do you want to win. None of us know any of what goes on internally. What we do know is that a contested primary negatively impacts whichever candidate wins for their party. Republicans know this, it's why two top candidates for governor here in Ohio next year have already made a deal to join the same ticket (DeWine and Husted). They know the harm that tearing each other down does. The GOP is divided. Have you heard the term Establishment! Take advantage of that by supporting the candidate that will vote for your important issues. Be smarter!

[ollie10]

102. So let's all unite behind the inevitable candidate.....

Is this deja-vu all over again?

We know how this story ends....

[RobinA]

122. I Want To Win

but that doesn’t seem to be happening. I haven’t much agreed with a Democratic candidate for President since, well, since forever, but I keep voting for them because of the Supreme Court. How’s that been working out? Democrats have been a disaster at least since Al Gore was afraid to use Clinton, Bill in his campaign. Dems were too embarrassed by his sex life to use a popular asset with a winning track record. Dohhh! Republicans, with a laughingstock moron at the helm who doesn’t even particularly like them have no such scruples and are eating our lunch.

[wasupaloopa]

88. No. anyone can be wrong on any subject

[still_one]

92. When people decide who to support for a nominee, they should consider the judgement that person uses

While I will support whoever becomes the Democratic nominee, I l have issues with anyone who doesn't let someone have the chance to defend themselves. I have no doubt there will be plenty of qualified potential Democratic candidates, who seek the Democratic nomination in 2020 that actually subscribe to due process.

For those who think this will just "blow over", I wouldn't bet on it, especially if 2018 has Minnesota losing one or more seats in the Senate to someone like a Pawletry or Coleman. If that happens, this will come back and bite their political ambitions right in the bud

[JimBeard]

95. Well put, and 2018 is just one year away. I feel like someone punched me in the gut.

[still_one]

97. I feel the same way Jim. Franken should have been afforded an investigation, which would NOT only

have been the proper thing to do, but also if a resignation resulted from that investigation, it would have probably occurred after the 2018 election.

The odds were already against us taking back the Senate in 2018, and this has just made it even more precarious

[ornotna]

98. Please sir, may I have another.

[ollie10]

101. When is anyone going to ask Trump to resign?

Seriously.

When is someone going to stand up for a potentially unpopular cause if someone gets shafted?

[bettyellen]

124. Cory Booker did exactly that!

[ollie10]

158. And the lynch mob? who will join Booker?

Too busy throwing a good man under the bus for poliical points, I guess, to notice Trump is unfit or speak out

[riverwalker]

103. For me, yes

It was not leadership, it was a self serving lynch mob. I don’t think I will ever forget the pain on Frankens face at this betrayal.

[blimablam]

104. and they were wrong to do so.

[rateyes]

110. Yep

[RobinA]

120. The Problem Is

for me that the situation is so lose-lose. They cave, and it’s not only bigly detrimental to the party, but it’s against what I thought were bedrock Democratic ideals (due process in some form). But we can’t disqualify them because it’s bigly detrimental to the party.

I’m a huge preacher of not letting the perfect be the enemy of the good, but at some point it just starts to look fucking hopeless. I mean, we have the worst president imaginable and these people STILL can’t get off the starting block due to self inflicted wounds.

[JimBeard]

121. This is going to backfire on idiots the same as it did in the 1990's

If you don't remember...........

How Politics Might Sour the #MeToo Movement

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/12/09/politics-sour-metoo-movement-harassment-216060

l Franken, in resigning from the Senate after eight women accused him of making unwanted sexual advances, bitterly noted “the irony in the fact that I am leaving, while a man who has bragged on tape about his history of sexual assault sits in the Oval Office, and a man who has repeatedly preyed on young girls campaigns for the Senate with the full support of his party.” Indeed, Donald Trump remains the president of the United States, and while many Republicans have denounced retired Alabama judge Roy Moore, he seems likely to win a Senate seat next Tuesday with the full backing of the White House. Likewise, Texas Republican Rep. Blake Farenthold, who quietly settled a lawsuit from an accuser, has faced only a couple GOP calls, from women lawmakers in the party, for his resignation. With the notable exception of Representative Trent Franks, who resigned on Friday after he had allegedly asked two female staffers if he could impregnate them, it’s hard to avoid the impression that the dizzying pace of the #MeToo movement was blunted as soon as it came up against the demands of partisanship in our polarized era.

With the notable exception of Representative Trent Franks, who resigned on Friday after he had allegedly asked two female staffers if he could impregnate them, it’s hard to avoid the impression that the dizzying pace of the #MeToo movement was blunted as soon as it came up against the demands of partisanship in our polarized era.

As we plunge once more into a national debate over sex, power, assault and morality, many hope this will finally be the watershed moment in which a full reckoning will take place. We’ve been here before, though, and we’ve seen such hopes fade and get overtaken by self-interested partisan political fights. And it’s happening again.

Let’s recall the fall of 1991.

The Democrats got their ass handed to them and it is going to happen again. It isn't going to change women republicans vote. My two sisters voted for Trump and would again. One very well off and the other one is not quite as wealthy. You are not going to gain anything. You young people need a history refresher.

[Va Lefty]

123. Yes, I will not support or vote for them in the primaries

[PdxSean]

132. I would trade every one of them for an Al Franken!

I want Democrats that will fight tooth and fucking nail for the good of the people and the Constitution with the same heat as republicans fight for corporations and Jim Crow.

With the Franken matter, it just seems to me that the many speech-making weenies in our party combined forces to take out one of the few intelligent fighters.

[Lifelong Protester]

154. Yes! I agree with you!

I read through all of these posts to find one I agreed with.

[Demsrule86]

133. Yes, they are all disqualified. We need someone to fight for us.

[Tipperary]

157. Yes. You are exactly right.

[Demsrule86]

159. The GOP is attack attack ...none of our rules of engagement will help us take these evil people on..

we have to fight...and it won't be pretty. We need to bring the fight to them.

[flamingdem]

147. Kamala Harris was one of the first to jump on the bandwagon

She's disqualified in my eyes because she lacks good judgement.

I don't want anyone running on the #metoo movement. It's not a winner

[alarimer]

148. Well Booker always was disqualified for other reasons.

But I don’t think these folks grandstanded on the issue as much as Gilliabrand did.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

151. Not necessarily, but it won't help them.

Notwithstanding a lot of speculation, I don't think either Sanders or Warren will run anyhow. Anyone else will have to survive the primary elections, and this matter will not be forgotten. Anyhow, where is it written that the nominee has to be a Senator?

I will, of course, vote for the Democrat in the general election.

[Demsrule86]

160. I agree completely... in a primary you vote for whom you like...in a general you vote for the

Democratic nominee.

[lapfog_1]

152. they have all lost my support

and no, I'm not whining or pouting.

I don't like spineless leaders of a lynch mob.

[customerserviceguy]

153. The thing that will get in Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren's way

is that they look to be two of a number of women who will be running for the 2020 Democratic nomination. The "women's vote" will be split, and while one might emerge from that group, the male group will winnow down at the same time.

It might come down to a Clinton vs. Obama thing like we saw in 2008, and the male frontrunner may have more positives than whoever emerges from the female candidate who outlasts the other women. And chances are, the actions of this last week may well be brought into play by those favoring the male candidate.

[peacebuzzard]

155. diminished as potential candidates

I will not forget this class.

[Raine]

165. Yes they are...

I'm done with everyone of them.

[3Hotdogs]

166. as far as I am concerned, yes. If they become the candidate, that's different.

In any case, i will not contribute any $ to any of their campaigns. I usually contribute a couple'a hundred per election cycle.

[oberliner]

167. Anyone in particular that you are hoping for?

[3Hotdogs]

168. Biden