Will say it again...Mueller has some bombs fully ready for detonation if he is fired.

[tableturner]

The ability of state governments to prosecute unchallenged by presidential pardons would only be a part of any fail-safe strategy. I would bet a lot of money that he and his crew have a protocol in place for actions to take if a firing or other outright obstruction occurs.

What if he has a slew of indictments ready to be unsealed the moment his firing or another highly obstructive move takes place? There probably are indictments sealed for now to protect the investigation, but a nuanced protection of the investigation would be rendered moot and the reasons for any indictments being sealed would be superseded by an immediate existential threat to any prosecution.

Imagine: There is a bulletin on TV telling you Mueller has been fired. An hour later another bulletin lets you know that a federal court has unsealed and handed down dozens of serious indictments of Trump's crew, along with multiple serious unindicted co-conspirator charges (not just obstruction) aimed at Trump himself, all accompanied by ironclad evidence.

Two main forces will then be at play. First, there will be a hugely negative reaction to the firing by the public and certain officials, some of them mainstream Republicans, that will turn into an explosion. Second, the public will learn of Trump's and crew's serious criminal actions, doubling or tripling the explosion.

Game over. The justifications for the firing of Mueller will be exposed as nonsense. There will be a double explosion of public anger at Trump and the Republicans because of the firing and the unsealed indictments, and Trump and crew will be doomed.

[Binkie The Clown]

1. That's probably wishful thinking, but I hope you are right just the same. nt

[tableturner]

5. I think it very likely that Mueller's prepared, & it would be a great way for him to be prepared.

Mueller HAS to have something planned.

[Irish_Dem]

2. Absolutely, Mueller is not foolish, and has considered this possibility and has a plan.

He did not survive for a year in the jungles of Viet Nam by having his head in the sand. He anticipates Trump will try something.

[The_jackalope]

3. He's a very bright guy. He'll have a dead-man switch in place. nt

[Ferrets are Cool]

4. "explosion of public anger"? My personal opinion is that you

grossly overestimate the public's ability to change anything in Washington. Think Net Neutrality or this farked up tax bill. Much outrage, no response.

[tableturner]

6. Think massive demonstrations in the streets!

Edited to add: This would be the end of the rule of law and democracy! Demonstrations would be bigger than any ever, even those during the Vietnam war. I mean.....this would be it.....do we preserve our way of life or not. Millions of Americans will say "yes"!

[Ferrets are Cool]

11. Wow, sorry, but in THIS America?

I know I'm a wet blanket here, but also a realist. Ain't gonna happen. Just for the sake of argument, where do you see even a flicker of hope that Americans would RUSH to the streets by the millions over anything besides the PGIC outlawing reality shows?

[tableturner]

13. Yes....THIS America! Democracy itself will be at stake.

This will be the largest mobilization of citizens ever, and they will shut down Washington worse than any Vietnam demonstrations did. This is it.....the battle for the existence of democracy! The people will respond.

[CrispyQ]

15. Massive demonstrations in the streets.

I'll believe it when I see it. Too many people think it can't happen here. Too bad the book by that title isn't required reading.

[tableturner]

16. Yes, but demonstrations in the streets will come AFTER the firings....

People will know at that point that it can happen here, because it WILL be happening here!

[justiceischeap]

7. Another thing to keep in mindthis is an FBI investigation

That doesn’t end just because Mueller is fired. If 45 fires Mueller, it’d be a stupid move cause all the animals have flown the coop when it comes to stopping the investigation. The bigger issue is the DAG Rosenstein, IMO. That guy is the firewall that keeps the investigation going. He gets fired and replaced, then the one who replaces him can drag his or her feet.

[tableturner]

8. True, but a spate of indictments right after the firing won't allow for any dragging of feet.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

9. I am quite sure you are right. He is too smart to let something like this stop him. n/t

[oasis]

10. Buckaloose!

[RandomAccess]

12. I believe Mueller has SOMEthing planned in that eventuality

We all know he's got state AGs lined up to pursue those avenues ...

Hope you've got the rest right. I've got my fingers crossed.

[tableturner]

14. Given Seth Abramson's tweet, plus everything else, be ready to take to the streets!

https://mobile.twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/942146451026608128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2F10029993743

Yes, I believe that Mueller is ready, but Trump is a caught rat and will do anything he can to stop this because he knows if he doesn't, he and those he loves the most will go to prison for a very long time!

[tableturner]

17. Given the rumors, there is a chance that preemptive indictments will happen BEFORE the firing.

The ramifications expressed in the OP will remain the same in this scenario, which is becoming more and more likely because now many believe the firings will happen this coming week. Mueller may think "Why wait until the inevitable firing?"