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whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 12:01 PM Feb 2015

Texas will honour American sniper by celebrating 'Chris Kyle Day'

Source: The Guardian

Greg Abbott, the new Republican governor of Texas, announced the creation of Chris Kyle Day in a speech at a veterans event in Austin on Friday. According to a statement from the governor’s office, Abbott said his decision had been taken “in honour of a Texas son, a Navy Seal and an American hero – a man who defended his brothers and sisters in arms on and off the battlefield”.

Kyle, who was shot dead at a Texas gun range in February 2013, has become a divisive figure. Public statements suggested he relished his job, and in his book of the same name as the film, co-written with Scott McEwen and Jim DeFelice, he portrayed the Iraqis and Islamic insurgents he killed as “savages”.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/jan/31/texas-celebrate-chris-kyle-day-american-sniper



News from the confederate territory of Texas. This is what happens when you stuff the school boards with people who think dinosaurs were used as farm animals by early man.

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Texas will honour American sniper by celebrating 'Chris Kyle Day' (Original Post) whereisjustice Feb 2015 OP
screw Godwin's law or whatever . . . this is like Mein Kampf for American haters zazen Feb 2015 #1
To paraphrase Twain.... paleotn Feb 2015 #32
It is frightening. This seems to indicate a somewhat culturewide failing of empathy and newthinking Feb 2015 #60
Snops debunks claims made by Kyle and others. DhhD Feb 2015 #2
Gregg Abbott spent his Lieutenant Governorship suing President Obama. DhhD Feb 2015 #10
Greg Abbott was never the Lt. Governor S_B_Jackson Feb 2015 #35
And Dewhurst has now been replaced..... Paladin Feb 2015 #41
All talk at the moment since the legislature isn't even in session... S_B_Jackson Feb 2015 #63
I know all about Patrick. He's a piece of filth. Paladin Feb 2015 #65
Even if his claims have been proven false, the fact that a Arkansas Granny Feb 2015 #25
Fox says it should be celebrated ... butterfly77 Feb 2015 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author Turbineguy Feb 2015 #3
Can either Texas or New England secede now? MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #4
If New England secedes can they please take New York too? n/t A Simple Game Feb 2015 #6
City or State? MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #13
As a resident of Northern New York I am referring to New York state. A Simple Game Feb 2015 #20
I've always wanted Travis County to secede from Texas.. ananda Feb 2015 #45
Finnish Sniper father founding Feb 2015 #5
A state holiday based on the fictional film portrayal of a serviceman. I have a better suggestion. DFW Feb 2015 #7
Have tried warning folks here in Texas about abbott, joshdawg Feb 2015 #8
Bigoted Killer Day daleo Feb 2015 #9
Texas Legislature examining bills to arm every Texans in every place, public and private. Coming DhhD Feb 2015 #17
This 'hero' boasted heaven05 Feb 2015 #27
You are probably correct daleo Feb 2015 #46
American Sniper = Nations Pride AwareOne Feb 2015 #11
^^THIS^^ MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #28
Have you seen it? I haven't, so I'm reluctant to give an opinion of it. Orrex Feb 2015 #44
Abbott could also proclaim it "Big Fat Liar Day" nt Malraiders Feb 2015 #12
Disgusting blackspade Feb 2015 #14
Liberals could use it as an anti-propaganda day. The more we would expose, the bloomington-lib Feb 2015 #15
I agree... SoapBox Feb 2015 #18
That would be a HUGE mistake. Like it or not, Kyle is seen by most as a hero 7962 Feb 2015 #24
"ridiculous nonsense"????? heaven05 Feb 2015 #26
You presume a lot. You cant know what I've dealt with. And you miss the point. 7962 Feb 2015 #51
please!!!! heaven05 Feb 2015 #70
"It would just come off as "anti military", and you lose that argument" MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #30
I didnt say keep quiet and go away! 7962 Feb 2015 #52
I haven't seen "soft talking" as effective. In fact from my experience newthinking Feb 2015 #61
Yuck. SoapBox Feb 2015 #16
Texas screws over Charles Whitman once again! Tom Ripley Feb 2015 #19
Yet another reason why 2naSalit Feb 2015 #21
If you do go, remember their favorite credo... MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #31
Indeed. 2naSalit Feb 2015 #33
Unbelievably long boring ride across that state! How did you DO it? MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #36
One of the key points 2naSalit Feb 2015 #39
Loved your description of the life... MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #50
I do, and thank you. 2naSalit Feb 2015 #67
Watch the sky daleo Feb 2015 #47
I don't go either. Blue_In_AK Feb 2015 #58
yeah, I stay in the neighborhood for the most part now. 2naSalit Feb 2015 #68
I believe Monty Python's The Meaning of Life summed up our hypocritical society best CBGLuthier Feb 2015 #22
shitbag appreciation daY! KG Feb 2015 #23
They're still angry about Spirochete Feb 2015 #29
Hate Day C Moon Feb 2015 #34
Michelle Obama likes American Sniper. former9thward Feb 2015 #37
Unnecessary triangulating/pandering to his red meat base whereisjustice Feb 2015 #42
You say "his red meat base" so perhaps you misread. former9thward Feb 2015 #43
No, but you clearly did - "his red meat base" means what it says. Perhaps had I written "His" whereisjustice Feb 2015 #49
I think Michelle Obama is looking to run for the Senate in 2016. former9thward Feb 2015 #55
Why not a Charles Whitman day? guillaumeb Feb 2015 #38
GMTA! Tom Ripley Feb 2015 #53
using the right tools guillaumeb Feb 2015 #56
Abbott can call it whatever he wants... ReRe Feb 2015 #40
Hee Haw kickback from book sales to the gov, or just a stupid state? lunasun Feb 2015 #48
The worst Republican is a Texas Republican. Dawson Leery Feb 2015 #54
Good point - I recently read they granted him parole... whereisjustice Feb 2015 #59
So, is Texas celebrating a terrorist or mass murderer? KansDem Feb 2015 #62
Red River Rivalry.... wait for it. V0ltairesGh0st Feb 2015 #64
... sakabatou Feb 2015 #66
Texas never misses an opportunity to embarrass itself Skittles Feb 2015 #69
Charles Joseph Whitman Octafish Feb 2015 #71

zazen

(2,978 posts)
1. screw Godwin's law or whatever . . . this is like Mein Kampf for American haters
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 12:06 PM
Feb 2015

Except ours our less literate than the German fascists and so require video.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
60. It is frightening. This seems to indicate a somewhat culturewide failing of empathy and
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 04:35 PM
Feb 2015

intellect.

I am very concerned at how we have incorporated war and violence so heavily into our national psych. You see it even here.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
10. Gregg Abbott spent his Lieutenant Governorship suing President Obama.
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 12:26 PM
Feb 2015
http://gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.com/2014/02/state-prosecuting-attorney-to-greg.html


In my opinion as well as others, Gregg Abbott is irresponsible and full of hate for justice. He crosses the line regularly just like in setting up a Chris Kyle Day.

S_B_Jackson

(906 posts)
35. Greg Abbott was never the Lt. Governor
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 01:42 PM
Feb 2015

prior to being elected, and taking office, as Governor, Abbott was the Attorney General of the state of Texas.

The Lt. Governor was an incompetent, ignorant dipshit by the name of David Dewhurst.

Paladin

(28,266 posts)
41. And Dewhurst has now been replaced.....
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 02:07 PM
Feb 2015

.....by an incompetent, ignorant, Limbaugh wannabe by the name of Dan Patrick.

(But it's Patrick, interestingly enough, who is facing off with the open carry goons in the state, refusing to move forward fast enough to suit said goons with some legislation important to them. This, after the open carry types invaded the capitol and intimidated some state legislators, causing panic buttons to then be installed in the legislators' offices. Smooth move, open carry jerk-offs; keep up the good work.)

S_B_Jackson

(906 posts)
63. All talk at the moment since the legislature isn't even in session...
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 07:01 PM
Feb 2015

Patrick's a grade-A tool, unfortunately for us, he's smarter and more ambitious than his predecessor in office and he has more of a personal agenda than David Do-Nothing.

Patrick, the former sports caster for the Houston CBS affiliate station, may find himself getting boxed in by his own campaign promises and a desire NOT to be called out on reneging less than a month after taking office. Whether open carry gets a vote in the Texas Senate is largely up to Patrick and the committee to which he assigns the bill, and whether or not he schedules it on a calender for a vote. Frankly, I don't care either way.

Paladin

(28,266 posts)
65. I know all about Patrick. He's a piece of filth.
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 07:30 PM
Feb 2015

And I'm overjoyed that the open carry goons finally pushed things too far, causing the installation of panic buttons in legislative offices and allowing Dan Patrick to do the proper thing, for a change. It won't last, but it's nice for the time being.

Arkansas Granny

(31,519 posts)
25. Even if his claims have been proven false, the fact that a
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 01:12 PM
Feb 2015

self-proclaimed murderer is elevated to "hero" status is disturbing.

Response to whereisjustice (Original post)

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
13. City or State?
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 12:35 PM
Feb 2015

I'd be concerned that northern NH, ME, and western NY could become an annoying voting bloc.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
20. As a resident of Northern New York I am referring to New York state.
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 12:48 PM
Feb 2015

But because you would be our second choice anyway, if the rest of you don't want us, never mind. We would prefer cutting off the top of New York and joining Canada anyway.

DFW

(54,414 posts)
7. A state holiday based on the fictional film portrayal of a serviceman. I have a better suggestion.
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 12:24 PM
Feb 2015

A friend of mine was also portrayed in a film, where the film character was nothing like the real man.

Just wait for Adrian Cronauer's reaction when Pennsylvania declares "Adrian Cronauer Day" based on the Robin Williams portrayal of him in "Good Morning Vietnam."

At least Adrian is still around to tell anyone who will listen that the film character was nothing like him. Besides, Adrian ended up his time with the military REALLY doing something for his fellow servicemen, namely helping the families of MIAs in Vietnam and Cambodia get closure, coordinating with groups on the ground in those countries finding remains of MIA US service personnel.

joshdawg

(2,651 posts)
8. Have tried warning folks here in Texas about abbott,
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 12:24 PM
Feb 2015

but, apparently no one was listening. He's bush and perry on steroids. This is just a small example of his fanaticism.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
17. Texas Legislature examining bills to arm every Texans in every place, public and private. Coming
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 12:36 PM
Feb 2015

to Texas? An old saying is something about, don't bring a knife to a gun fight. One bill would make getting a license to carry, concealed, unnecessary. Another would be for teachers to shoot students committing a crime. Unbelievable right? Not in an Tea Extremist House of Texas.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
27. This 'hero' boasted
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 01:18 PM
Feb 2015

of killing 'looters', spell that black people, post Katrina. The white looters were portrayed at that time as 'finding' things and I bet my bottom dollar this 'hero' never shot one of them.....amerikkka is such a bigoted hypocritical mess.

 

AwareOne

(404 posts)
11. American Sniper = Nations Pride
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 12:26 PM
Feb 2015

the nazi propaganda film glorifying the exploits of German sniper Fredrick Zoller in Tarantino's Inglorious Basterds. Tarantino made a film mocking propaganda and the idiots who fall for it. Clint Eastwood then makes an American version and its a smash hit. Yay America!

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
44. Have you seen it? I haven't, so I'm reluctant to give an opinion of it.
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 02:11 PM
Feb 2015

I defer to people who've actually watched the film.

bloomington-lib

(946 posts)
15. Liberals could use it as an anti-propaganda day. The more we would expose, the
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 12:36 PM
Feb 2015

more conservatives would double down, protecting their false idols, displaying how full of shit they are.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
18. I agree...
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 12:38 PM
Feb 2015

But then what do the Libs and Dems do...hide in the corner, too afraid to say anything.

Get a fucking spine Dems and speak up.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
24. That would be a HUGE mistake. Like it or not, Kyle is seen by most as a hero
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 01:06 PM
Feb 2015

Trying to go against that tide would just put more people against you and your causes. Its just like the bad cop protests; a lot of people said "screw 'em" as soon as they started the ridiculous nonsense of occupying restaurants and blocking roads and bridges.
It would just come off as "anti military", and you lose that argument

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
26. "ridiculous nonsense"?????
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 01:15 PM
Feb 2015

But then again my presumption is you have never had to fight for your rights. It's always been a GIVEN for you. Right?????

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
51. You presume a lot. You cant know what I've dealt with. And you miss the point.
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 02:42 PM
Feb 2015

All I'm saying is that one must know the people that you need to get on your side. Look at MLK, for example. He knew that preaching protest with non-violence was the best way to show people how wrong things were. He knew that if he prompted people to take to the streets and attack police and everything else that the onlookers watching on TV would be turned off by the protestors actions. Instead, people watched violent cops and violent civilians attack people just walking. And things began to change, even if it was way too slow.
I'm reminded of this confrontation last year



All the protestors did was piss off a lot of people trying to get to work. And many of them would likely support what they were protesting about. But now you've lost them and they'll no longer give a shit

Pick your battles and fight them in a smart way. Look at the medical pot issue. In the beginning all you saw was the stereotypical pothead protesting. Many people just shook their heads and ignored it. Things changed when you began to see parents and children protesting to be able to access pot for medical use. The face of the issue changed.

Obviously you dont agree with any of this, but I'm just giving my opinion of how the majority of the population sees things
 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
70. please!!!!
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 12:50 PM
Feb 2015

when you're getting gunned down in the street. the battle has been joined. Pick your battles? MLK was murdered because he finally started telling it like it was/is about america and the hypocrisy it pursues. Don't even try to bring one of my heroes into this argument who was nonviolent, preached nonviolence and was still gunned down by the pigs that hold the real power in america. You speak for the majority of the population? Not in my neighborhood. The majority you're pointing to, voted republican, that majority? Of course they counsel, "take your time, freedom will be yours one of these days, you'll get all your rights and be able to vote again also. That majority? Well that majority I fought against 50 years ago and I'm still fighting............. Damn right I won't agree because you'll always be able to vote without restriction, drive without notice and on and on. That is as long as voting is used in this country to pick 'leaders'. I think that pretense is heading to the trash bin of history sooner than we ALL think.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
30. "It would just come off as "anti military", and you lose that argument"
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 01:28 PM
Feb 2015

Oh… O..K.. I'll just go jump off this fucking cliff with the rest of these zombies, okay?

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
52. I didnt say keep quiet and go away!
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 02:43 PM
Feb 2015

Just pick your battles and understand the people whose minds you need to change

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
61. I haven't seen "soft talking" as effective. In fact from my experience
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 04:38 PM
Feb 2015

one must (as linguists say) "break the frame" and expose directly these kinds of things. Otherwise they end up getting embedded deeper into the sub-conscious.

2naSalit

(86,664 posts)
21. Yet another reason why
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 12:48 PM
Feb 2015

I will never choose to go to Texas willingly again. Don't get me wrong now, I already live in a rather batshit crazy redneck place, but it gets cold enough to run off a lot of them and the others mostly stay in the house in winter.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
31. If you do go, remember their favorite credo...
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 01:30 PM
Feb 2015

"Don't mess with Texas"…

Don't mess with the military mindset and permanent border state mentality, and the fact that their legislature goes in session every OTHER year, and the fact that the 6th store museum has the sniper's nest exactly as it was in 1963… empty.

2naSalit

(86,664 posts)
33. Indeed.
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 01:38 PM
Feb 2015

I stopped going there in the 1990s when I retired from truck driving. I used to go across that state close to twice a week some years. Hauled produce for most of that career so I saw a lot of the Rio Grande Valley area and everything on the way. They do have some pretty country in the middle but it wasn't as nice as in the northern states.

Texas messed with me enough back then.

I also used to run the width of the state, all 1,000+ miles of it... ugh! I would try to do it at night, fortunately when I had to do that I had a rig that went so fast I actually could do it in one night (50hr runs from LA to NYC!!). Geeze, I hope the statute of limitations is in play on that one! So in reality, I did mess with Texas and got away with it!


MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
36. Unbelievably long boring ride across that state! How did you DO it?
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 01:44 PM
Feb 2015

I guess that is a rhetorical question, cause that was your profession. When we lived in San Antonio and traveled to the Grand Canyon (1997), I thought, "You'd have to have talk radio all the way to survive THIS journey.

Glad you survived that stuff to have messed back with them!

2naSalit

(86,664 posts)
39. One of the key points
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 02:03 PM
Feb 2015

much like driving across Nebraska is to do it at night so you can't actually see how boring it is. One of my buds back then had a great saying about NE, KS and TX...

"Never drive across (any of those states) unless you either go at night or have enough drugs to get you to the other side."

I wasn't into the drugs thing but the night driving part is what I found to be useful.

I did have a great sound system and lots of other drivers to talk to. Mostly I had to slow down to pass them (when you can get 80,000 lbs. rolling at triple-digit speeds you spend a lot of time in the left lane). Got lots of comments about my rig as I passed. And the radio was "turned up" meaning I could actually converse with others as far away as sixty miles in all directions to find out where the HPs were... 60 miles goes by in a snap when going that fast. I did slow down when in cities and towns but there's so much wide open space out there that it was pretty good running for most of the journey.

Nowadays I like being in one place, I can go potty whenever I want and wash my face and hands whenever I want... I'm too old to be a road warrior anymore. Back in the day I was having a good time being someplace different every day, though. I rarely had to look for a job too... I had a good reputation so I was sought after for many years which gave me a lot of freedom as well. I took a 1200 mile (one way) drive last November in my own vehicle and discovered that I don't have the stamina to do that anymore. Just as well, I feel safer in my high elevation mountain hide-away now. Not very many people and lots of wild animals and plants.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
50. Loved your description of the life...
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 02:38 PM
Feb 2015

You may be "too old" for it now, but you had way more stamina than the majority of us on the road.

May you continue to enjoy the high elevation mountains with more of the intelligent life-forms on planet earth!

2naSalit

(86,664 posts)
67. I do, and thank you.
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 07:52 PM
Feb 2015

I sure moved a lot of food and other stuff, that's for sure. I know I drove well over 1.5 million miles in all those years. I quit counting at 1,5 million but drove for another three years after that. There's not a city in the contiguous 48 states that I can get lost in, probably why I live in the wilderness now... well that and the solitude and never ending sky without man made lights.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
47. Watch the sky
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 02:33 PM
Feb 2015

On nice days, that can be fascinating on prairie drives. Clouds are always changing, reforming...

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
58. I don't go either.
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 03:19 PM
Feb 2015

I lived down there in the Houston area from 1963-1968 and have only been back once for my 40th HS reunion. My husband goes down every year to visit his family, but I stay home and take care of the dog.

2naSalit

(86,664 posts)
68. yeah, I stay in the neighborhood for the most part now.
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 07:58 PM
Feb 2015

I had to go to Calif. last November to see my mom (I live in MT now) and I get so dismayed each time... though I hadn't been there in some 15 years. She came up here in the past so I didn't have to go there to see her but she's a bit old for travel in her late 80s now. I have no use for the lone star state.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
22. I believe Monty Python's The Meaning of Life summed up our hypocritical society best
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 12:49 PM
Feb 2015

Here is better than home, eh, sir? I mean, at home if you kill someone they arrest you, here they'll give you a gun and show you what to do, sir. I mean, I killed fifteen of those buggers. Now, at home they'd hang me, here they'll give me a fucking medal, sir."

What kind of world celebrates a man who killed over 200 men, women, and children who were primarily engaged in the defense of THEIR country against foreign invaders?

Spirochete

(5,264 posts)
29. They're still angry about
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 01:27 PM
Feb 2015

not being able to have "Lee Harvey Oswald Day". This is how they try to make up for it.

former9thward

(32,030 posts)
37. Michelle Obama likes American Sniper.
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 01:47 PM
Feb 2015

Of course she has actually seen it, unlike most of the posters here.

Michelle Obama Praises American Sniper During Event with Bradley Cooper

After watching American Sniper during her recent flight to Saudi Arabia, Michelle Obama is calling for more films portraying veterans in a realistic light.

Speaking at a Friday panel which unveiled the new program 6 Certified, an initiative to recognize film and TV content that focuses on the reality of veterans, the first lady praised the critically acclaimed movie, which tells the story of the late Navy SEAL Chris Kyle, who was known as the most lethal sniper in U.S. history.

"[We need to] change the conversation about our veterans and military families," Obama said to the audience, following discussions with the film's producers and lead actor Bradley Cooper.

Obama acknowledged the film has had its fair share of critics, but pointed to the movie's success at the box office as proof that the country is equally invested in the plight of veterans.


http://www.people.com/article/michelle-obama-american-sniper-white-house

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
42. Unnecessary triangulating/pandering to his red meat base
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 02:07 PM
Feb 2015

What next, a heart warming tribute to Darren Wilson? Daniel Pantaleo? A random sociopath?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/kyleclaims.asp

Indeed, the account does not hold water simply on the grounds cited in the passage quoted above. Imagining that SEALs were deployed to New Orleans in the chaotic days that followed Katrina is not exceptionally hard, considering the level of disorder that followed the devastation wrought by the hurricane. But the notion that dozens of Americans were shot dead on mere suspicion of (relatively minor) crimes, on American soil and with the full support of a system of law that otherwise does not allow for such summary
punitive actions, challenges credulity to a very large degree. Moreover, thirty or so bodies of local residents slain in such a manner never turned up as corroborative evidence of such a claim. The circumstance Kyle claimed would have required the silence and compliance of all witnesses, the families of the dead, all involved law enforcement agencies, and untold others who might have become aware of killings meted out under inarguably public circumstances. Had Kyle and his fellows truly dispatched such a large number of looters or "residents who were contributing to the chaos" (who had neither been charged with nor convicted of any crime, much less a capital one), some other evidence of this tale would have emerged. One person disappearing under such circumstances is unusual; thirty or so is truly unbelievable.

All involved had heard the story, and some of them claimed to know of a person who had seen the purported footage — but all of them heard the story from the same source (Kyle himself), and none of them could personally attest to having viewed the alleged security camera footage. And just as in the Superdome sniping tale, the putative victims remain unidentified even now, so no one can possibly verify whether they're even dead, much less the circumstances under which they died.

Moreover, the single claim of this group that stood a legal test of its veracity failed: Kyle's claims about Jesse Ventura were sufficiently non-provable that a jury (deliberating in a country that, by and large, holds a large measure of respect and pursuant leeway for American servicemen) saw fit to award damages to Ventura totaling seven figures, even with the knowledge that Kyle himself hadn't lived to see the sanction and the damages would be levied against his widow and other beneficiaries of his estate.

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/kyleclaims.asp#OWkGx04Fjl9rt4rJ.99

former9thward

(32,030 posts)
43. You say "his red meat base" so perhaps you misread.
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 02:11 PM
Feb 2015

This was coming from Michelle Obama not the President.

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
49. No, but you clearly did - "his red meat base" means what it says. Perhaps had I written "His"
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 02:36 PM
Feb 2015

it would have been clearer?. If she's going to wade into a misguided attempt to seek some transparent political advantage for her husband, then he will pay the price for the mistake.

BTW - in the act of war, shooting civilians brings up some interesting consequences from Rules of Engagement, Geneva Convention and other Laws of War.

The Obamas and many democrats clearly need some help determining who is and is not in need of defense from the oval office.

CIA, NSA, blood thirsty sociopath snipers and killer cops, CEOs outsourcing millions of jobs to Asia, Wall Street bankers? Not so much.

former9thward

(32,030 posts)
55. I think Michelle Obama is looking to run for the Senate in 2016.
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 02:55 PM
Feb 2015

Against Mark Kirk in IL. So I think we will be seeing more of her opinions.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
38. Why not a Charles Whitman day?
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 01:52 PM
Feb 2015

Charles Whitman may not have killed as many people as Chris Kyle, but why not a day for him also? Whitman was actually a former Marine, (coincidence there?) who killed 16 people and wounded 32 at the University of Texas in Austin. I admit it does not compare to Kyle's total, but if one sociopath who kills for an idea gets a special day why not the other?

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
56. using the right tools
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 03:04 PM
Feb 2015

Plus Kyle used a customized .338 sniper rifle, a far cry from the .30 bolt action that Whitman used.

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