Texas will honour American sniper by celebrating 'Chris Kyle Day'
Source: The Guardian
Greg Abbott, the new Republican governor of Texas, announced the creation of Chris Kyle Day in a speech at a veterans event in Austin on Friday. According to a statement from the governors office, Abbott said his decision had been taken in honour of a Texas son, a Navy Seal and an American hero a man who defended his brothers and sisters in arms on and off the battlefield.
Kyle, who was shot dead at a Texas gun range in February 2013, has become a divisive figure. Public statements suggested he relished his job, and in his book of the same name as the film, co-written with Scott McEwen and Jim DeFelice, he portrayed the Iraqis and Islamic insurgents he killed as savages.
Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/jan/31/texas-celebrate-chris-kyle-day-american-sniper
News from the confederate territory of Texas. This is what happens when you stuff the school boards with people who think dinosaurs were used as farm animals by early man.
zazen
(2,978 posts)Except ours our less literate than the German fascists and so require video.
paleotn
(17,931 posts)....this isn't the same, but it sure does rhyme.
newthinking
(3,982 posts)intellect.
I am very concerned at how we have incorporated war and violence so heavily into our national psych. You see it even here.
DhhD
(4,695 posts)From the Texas Group.
DhhD
(4,695 posts)In my opinion as well as others, Gregg Abbott is irresponsible and full of hate for justice. He crosses the line regularly just like in setting up a Chris Kyle Day.
S_B_Jackson
(906 posts)prior to being elected, and taking office, as Governor, Abbott was the Attorney General of the state of Texas.
The Lt. Governor was an incompetent, ignorant dipshit by the name of David Dewhurst.
Paladin
(28,266 posts).....by an incompetent, ignorant, Limbaugh wannabe by the name of Dan Patrick.
(But it's Patrick, interestingly enough, who is facing off with the open carry goons in the state, refusing to move forward fast enough to suit said goons with some legislation important to them. This, after the open carry types invaded the capitol and intimidated some state legislators, causing panic buttons to then be installed in the legislators' offices. Smooth move, open carry jerk-offs; keep up the good work.)
S_B_Jackson
(906 posts)Patrick's a grade-A tool, unfortunately for us, he's smarter and more ambitious than his predecessor in office and he has more of a personal agenda than David Do-Nothing.
Patrick, the former sports caster for the Houston CBS affiliate station, may find himself getting boxed in by his own campaign promises and a desire NOT to be called out on reneging less than a month after taking office. Whether open carry gets a vote in the Texas Senate is largely up to Patrick and the committee to which he assigns the bill, and whether or not he schedules it on a calender for a vote. Frankly, I don't care either way.
Paladin
(28,266 posts)And I'm overjoyed that the open carry goons finally pushed things too far, causing the installation of panic buttons in legislative offices and allowing Dan Patrick to do the proper thing, for a change. It won't last, but it's nice for the time being.
Arkansas Granny
(31,519 posts)self-proclaimed murderer is elevated to "hero" status is disturbing.
butterfly77
(17,609 posts)every year in every state.
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MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Pretty please?
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)I'd be concerned that northern NH, ME, and western NY could become an annoying voting bloc.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)But because you would be our second choice anyway, if the rest of you don't want us, never mind. We would prefer cutting off the top of New York and joining Canada anyway.
ananda
(28,868 posts).. and apply for statehood.
father founding
(619 posts)When will the movie about Simo Häyhä Come out Clint ?
DFW
(54,414 posts)A friend of mine was also portrayed in a film, where the film character was nothing like the real man.
Just wait for Adrian Cronauer's reaction when Pennsylvania declares "Adrian Cronauer Day" based on the Robin Williams portrayal of him in "Good Morning Vietnam."
At least Adrian is still around to tell anyone who will listen that the film character was nothing like him. Besides, Adrian ended up his time with the military REALLY doing something for his fellow servicemen, namely helping the families of MIAs in Vietnam and Cambodia get closure, coordinating with groups on the ground in those countries finding remains of MIA US service personnel.
joshdawg
(2,651 posts)but, apparently no one was listening. He's bush and perry on steroids. This is just a small example of his fanaticism.
daleo
(21,317 posts)The New Orleans stuff is enough for me, to doubt the wisdom of this declaration.
DhhD
(4,695 posts)to Texas? An old saying is something about, don't bring a knife to a gun fight. One bill would make getting a license to carry, concealed, unnecessary. Another would be for teachers to shoot students committing a crime. Unbelievable right? Not in an Tea Extremist House of Texas.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)of killing 'looters', spell that black people, post Katrina. The white looters were portrayed at that time as 'finding' things and I bet my bottom dollar this 'hero' never shot one of them.....amerikkka is such a bigoted hypocritical mess.
daleo
(21,317 posts)This declaration seems divisive, in the extreme.
AwareOne
(404 posts)the nazi propaganda film glorifying the exploits of German sniper Fredrick Zoller in Tarantino's Inglorious Basterds. Tarantino made a film mocking propaganda and the idiots who fall for it. Clint Eastwood then makes an American version and its a smash hit. Yay America!
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)+1
Orrex
(63,216 posts)I defer to people who've actually watched the film.
Malraiders
(444 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)bloomington-lib
(946 posts)more conservatives would double down, protecting their false idols, displaying how full of shit they are.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)But then what do the Libs and Dems do...hide in the corner, too afraid to say anything.
Get a fucking spine Dems and speak up.
7962
(11,841 posts)Trying to go against that tide would just put more people against you and your causes. Its just like the bad cop protests; a lot of people said "screw 'em" as soon as they started the ridiculous nonsense of occupying restaurants and blocking roads and bridges.
It would just come off as "anti military", and you lose that argument
heaven05
(18,124 posts)But then again my presumption is you have never had to fight for your rights. It's always been a GIVEN for you. Right?????
7962
(11,841 posts)All I'm saying is that one must know the people that you need to get on your side. Look at MLK, for example. He knew that preaching protest with non-violence was the best way to show people how wrong things were. He knew that if he prompted people to take to the streets and attack police and everything else that the onlookers watching on TV would be turned off by the protestors actions. Instead, people watched violent cops and violent civilians attack people just walking. And things began to change, even if it was way too slow.
I'm reminded of this confrontation last year
All the protestors did was piss off a lot of people trying to get to work. And many of them would likely support what they were protesting about. But now you've lost them and they'll no longer give a shit
Pick your battles and fight them in a smart way. Look at the medical pot issue. In the beginning all you saw was the stereotypical pothead protesting. Many people just shook their heads and ignored it. Things changed when you began to see parents and children protesting to be able to access pot for medical use. The face of the issue changed.
Obviously you dont agree with any of this, but I'm just giving my opinion of how the majority of the population sees things
when you're getting gunned down in the street. the battle has been joined. Pick your battles? MLK was murdered because he finally started telling it like it was/is about america and the hypocrisy it pursues. Don't even try to bring one of my heroes into this argument who was nonviolent, preached nonviolence and was still gunned down by the pigs that hold the real power in america. You speak for the majority of the population? Not in my neighborhood. The majority you're pointing to, voted republican, that majority? Of course they counsel, "take your time, freedom will be yours one of these days, you'll get all your rights and be able to vote again also. That majority? Well that majority I fought against 50 years ago and I'm still fighting............. Damn right I won't agree because you'll always be able to vote without restriction, drive without notice and on and on. That is as long as voting is used in this country to pick 'leaders'. I think that pretense is heading to the trash bin of history sooner than we ALL think.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Oh O..K.. I'll just go jump off this fucking cliff with the rest of these zombies, okay?
7962
(11,841 posts)Just pick your battles and understand the people whose minds you need to change
newthinking
(3,982 posts)one must (as linguists say) "break the frame" and expose directly these kinds of things. Otherwise they end up getting embedded deeper into the sub-conscious.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Disgusting and disgraceful.
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)2naSalit
(86,664 posts)I will never choose to go to Texas willingly again. Don't get me wrong now, I already live in a rather batshit crazy redneck place, but it gets cold enough to run off a lot of them and the others mostly stay in the house in winter.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)"Don't mess with Texas"
Don't mess with the military mindset and permanent border state mentality, and the fact that their legislature goes in session every OTHER year, and the fact that the 6th store museum has the sniper's nest exactly as it was in 1963
empty.
2naSalit
(86,664 posts)I stopped going there in the 1990s when I retired from truck driving. I used to go across that state close to twice a week some years. Hauled produce for most of that career so I saw a lot of the Rio Grande Valley area and everything on the way. They do have some pretty country in the middle but it wasn't as nice as in the northern states.
Texas messed with me enough back then.
I also used to run the width of the state, all 1,000+ miles of it... ugh! I would try to do it at night, fortunately when I had to do that I had a rig that went so fast I actually could do it in one night (50hr runs from LA to NYC!!). Geeze, I hope the statute of limitations is in play on that one! So in reality, I did mess with Texas and got away with it!
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)I guess that is a rhetorical question, cause that was your profession. When we lived in San Antonio and traveled to the Grand Canyon (1997), I thought, "You'd have to have talk radio all the way to survive THIS journey.
Glad you survived that stuff to have messed back with them!
2naSalit
(86,664 posts)much like driving across Nebraska is to do it at night so you can't actually see how boring it is. One of my buds back then had a great saying about NE, KS and TX...
"Never drive across (any of those states) unless you either go at night or have enough drugs to get you to the other side."
I wasn't into the drugs thing but the night driving part is what I found to be useful.
I did have a great sound system and lots of other drivers to talk to. Mostly I had to slow down to pass them (when you can get 80,000 lbs. rolling at triple-digit speeds you spend a lot of time in the left lane). Got lots of comments about my rig as I passed. And the radio was "turned up" meaning I could actually converse with others as far away as sixty miles in all directions to find out where the HPs were... 60 miles goes by in a snap when going that fast. I did slow down when in cities and towns but there's so much wide open space out there that it was pretty good running for most of the journey.
Nowadays I like being in one place, I can go potty whenever I want and wash my face and hands whenever I want... I'm too old to be a road warrior anymore. Back in the day I was having a good time being someplace different every day, though. I rarely had to look for a job too... I had a good reputation so I was sought after for many years which gave me a lot of freedom as well. I took a 1200 mile (one way) drive last November in my own vehicle and discovered that I don't have the stamina to do that anymore. Just as well, I feel safer in my high elevation mountain hide-away now. Not very many people and lots of wild animals and plants.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)You may be "too old" for it now, but you had way more stamina than the majority of us on the road.
May you continue to enjoy the high elevation mountains with more of the intelligent life-forms on planet earth!
2naSalit
(86,664 posts)I sure moved a lot of food and other stuff, that's for sure. I know I drove well over 1.5 million miles in all those years. I quit counting at 1,5 million but drove for another three years after that. There's not a city in the contiguous 48 states that I can get lost in, probably why I live in the wilderness now... well that and the solitude and never ending sky without man made lights.
daleo
(21,317 posts)On nice days, that can be fascinating on prairie drives. Clouds are always changing, reforming...
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)I lived down there in the Houston area from 1963-1968 and have only been back once for my 40th HS reunion. My husband goes down every year to visit his family, but I stay home and take care of the dog.
2naSalit
(86,664 posts)I had to go to Calif. last November to see my mom (I live in MT now) and I get so dismayed each time... though I hadn't been there in some 15 years. She came up here in the past so I didn't have to go there to see her but she's a bit old for travel in her late 80s now. I have no use for the lone star state.
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)Here is better than home, eh, sir? I mean, at home if you kill someone they arrest you, here they'll give you a gun and show you what to do, sir. I mean, I killed fifteen of those buggers. Now, at home they'd hang me, here they'll give me a fucking medal, sir."
What kind of world celebrates a man who killed over 200 men, women, and children who were primarily engaged in the defense of THEIR country against foreign invaders?
KG
(28,751 posts)Spirochete
(5,264 posts)not being able to have "Lee Harvey Oswald Day". This is how they try to make up for it.
C Moon
(12,218 posts)former9thward
(32,030 posts)Of course she has actually seen it, unlike most of the posters here.
Michelle Obama Praises American Sniper During Event with Bradley Cooper
After watching American Sniper during her recent flight to Saudi Arabia, Michelle Obama is calling for more films portraying veterans in a realistic light.
Speaking at a Friday panel which unveiled the new program 6 Certified, an initiative to recognize film and TV content that focuses on the reality of veterans, the first lady praised the critically acclaimed movie, which tells the story of the late Navy SEAL Chris Kyle, who was known as the most lethal sniper in U.S. history.
"[We need to] change the conversation about our veterans and military families," Obama said to the audience, following discussions with the film's producers and lead actor Bradley Cooper.
Obama acknowledged the film has had its fair share of critics, but pointed to the movie's success at the box office as proof that the country is equally invested in the plight of veterans.
http://www.people.com/article/michelle-obama-american-sniper-white-house
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)What next, a heart warming tribute to Darren Wilson? Daniel Pantaleo? A random sociopath?
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/kyleclaims.asp
Indeed, the account does not hold water simply on the grounds cited in the passage quoted above. Imagining that SEALs were deployed to New Orleans in the chaotic days that followed Katrina is not exceptionally hard, considering the level of disorder that followed the devastation wrought by the hurricane. But the notion that dozens of Americans were shot dead on mere suspicion of (relatively minor) crimes, on American soil and with the full support of a system of law that otherwise does not allow for such summary
punitive actions, challenges credulity to a very large degree. Moreover, thirty or so bodies of local residents slain in such a manner never turned up as corroborative evidence of such a claim. The circumstance Kyle claimed would have required the silence and compliance of all witnesses, the families of the dead, all involved law enforcement agencies, and untold others who might have become aware of killings meted out under inarguably public circumstances. Had Kyle and his fellows truly dispatched such a large number of looters or "residents who were contributing to the chaos" (who had neither been charged with nor convicted of any crime, much less a capital one), some other evidence of this tale would have emerged. One person disappearing under such circumstances is unusual; thirty or so is truly unbelievable.
All involved had heard the story, and some of them claimed to know of a person who had seen the purported footage but all of them heard the story from the same source (Kyle himself), and none of them could personally attest to having viewed the alleged security camera footage. And just as in the Superdome sniping tale, the putative victims remain unidentified even now, so no one can possibly verify whether they're even dead, much less the circumstances under which they died.
Moreover, the single claim of this group that stood a legal test of its veracity failed: Kyle's claims about Jesse Ventura were sufficiently non-provable that a jury (deliberating in a country that, by and large, holds a large measure of respect and pursuant leeway for American servicemen) saw fit to award damages to Ventura totaling seven figures, even with the knowledge that Kyle himself hadn't lived to see the sanction and the damages would be levied against his widow and other beneficiaries of his estate.
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/kyleclaims.asp#OWkGx04Fjl9rt4rJ.99
former9thward
(32,030 posts)This was coming from Michelle Obama not the President.
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)it would have been clearer?. If she's going to wade into a misguided attempt to seek some transparent political advantage for her husband, then he will pay the price for the mistake.
BTW - in the act of war, shooting civilians brings up some interesting consequences from Rules of Engagement, Geneva Convention and other Laws of War.
The Obamas and many democrats clearly need some help determining who is and is not in need of defense from the oval office.
CIA, NSA, blood thirsty sociopath snipers and killer cops, CEOs outsourcing millions of jobs to Asia, Wall Street bankers? Not so much.
former9thward
(32,030 posts)Against Mark Kirk in IL. So I think we will be seeing more of her opinions.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Charles Whitman may not have killed as many people as Chris Kyle, but why not a day for him also? Whitman was actually a former Marine, (coincidence there?) who killed 16 people and wounded 32 at the University of Texas in Austin. I admit it does not compare to Kyle's total, but if one sociopath who kills for an idea gets a special day why not the other?
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)Also, Kyle couldn't hold a candle to Whitman's time elapsed/fatality rate.
What a piker!
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Plus Kyle used a customized .338 sniper rifle, a far cry from the .30 bolt action that Whitman used.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... I will always call it as "Psychopath Day."
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)They would be arrogant enough to give honor to Eugene De Kock's bastard child.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_de_Kock
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)KansDem
(28,498 posts)The article didn't say.
V0ltairesGh0st
(306 posts)Just when i Thought Texas couldn't get any dumber than Oklahoma....
sakabatou
(42,163 posts)Skittles
(153,169 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)He was a sniper in Texas.