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Omaha Steve

(99,706 posts)
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:45 AM Feb 2015

RARE SHOELESS JOE JACKSON AUTOGRAPH PHOTO MAY BRING $100,000

Source: AP

BY JOHN SEEWER

haron Bowen thought her late husband was a bit crazy for buying a scrapbook filled with black and white photos of Cleveland ballplayers from the early 1900s - but not anymore. It turns out that book held what may be the only autographed photo of Shoeless Joe Jackson, the Holy Grail of baseball signatures.

Jackson, who was tossed out of baseball for throwing the 1919 World Series and remembered in the movie "Field of Dreams," was illiterate and rarely signed anything but paychecks and legal documents, making his autographs among the rarest in sports.

How many Jackson signatures are in existence isn't clear, but most experts agree that it's probably less than 100. But this is the first signed photo authenticated by autograph experts, according to Heritage Auctions, which is handling the sale of the century-old photograph this month.

It could fetch at least $100,000, according to the Dallas-based auction house.

FULL story at link.



In this Jan. 22, 2015, photo, an autographed picture of Cleveland ball player Joe Jackson is shown at Heritage Auctions in Dallas. Sharon Bowen thought her late husband was a bit crazy for buying a scrapbook with a bunch of black and white photos of Cleveland ballplayers from the early 1900s, but not anymore. It turns out that scrapbook held what may be the only autographed photo of Shoeless Joe Jackson. (AP Photo/Tony Gutierrez)

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RARE SHOELESS JOE JACKSON AUTOGRAPH PHOTO MAY BRING $100,000 (Original Post) Omaha Steve Feb 2015 OP
I've been to Joe's grave... Cooley Hurd Feb 2015 #1
Wow! Gemini Cat Feb 2015 #2
This sort of thing liberalmike27 Feb 2015 #3
Heritage has a history of helping out "ordinalry mortals" who turn up with windfall finds DFW Feb 2015 #4
Joe Jackson had very nice shoes! Hissyspit Feb 2015 #5
LOL They_Live Feb 2015 #7
Sharp-arp. louis-t Feb 2015 #8
I'll bet old Joe never made $100,000 in his whole life. CanonRay Feb 2015 #6
It doesn't look like the signature of someone who was illiterate. louis-t Feb 2015 #9
I agree, it looks like someone simply wrote on the photo to identify Jackson. kwassa Feb 2015 #10
I wrote to a Heritage co-CEO, who is a friend DFW Feb 2015 #11
Heritage wrote back DFW Feb 2015 #12
Smart move for Heritage. You did him a big favor. louis-t Feb 2015 #13
I wasn't the one who did them a favor DFW Feb 2015 #14
 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
1. I've been to Joe's grave...
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:52 AM
Feb 2015

I lived in Greenville, SC in the late 80's, and visited his grave one day during my lunch hour.

liberalmike27

(2,479 posts)
3. This sort of thing
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 10:35 AM
Feb 2015

Is clear evidence, that some have too much money. When I hear stories like this, or about people who have hundred classic car collections and such, I just see it as confirmation of our worst problem--concentrations of income at the top.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
4. Heritage has a history of helping out "ordinalry mortals" who turn up with windfall finds
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 10:53 AM
Feb 2015

A few years ago, an Iraq vet in Ohio bought some old pamphlet for $8 or so at a flea market. After a while he went to find out if it was something of importance, and sent it down to Heritage. They confirmed to him that it was a rare original edition of the Federalist Papers. When they heard that the guy was a struggling Iraq vet, they waived their usual fee and reduced the seller's commission to zero, which netted the guy an extra $12,000 or so (out of the $80 or so grand it sold for) before taxes.

There will always be a few rich people with more money than brains to pay big amounts for this kind of thing, but if this kind of occasional "income redistribution" happens every now and then, who are we to rag on the lucky seller?

louis-t

(23,297 posts)
9. It doesn't look like the signature of someone who was illiterate.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 02:44 PM
Feb 2015

I have heard that his wife or an acquaintance signed things for him. Maybe his sig got better over time. I have seen examples of his real sig. This doesn't look like it.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
11. I wrote to a Heritage co-CEO, who is a friend
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 12:59 PM
Feb 2015

He said thanks for the heads-up and they are running a double-check before they sell it.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
12. Heritage wrote back
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 01:46 PM
Feb 2015

They asked that it be noted that their catalog description specifically said that the signature was not in Jackson's hand.

louis-t

(23,297 posts)
13. Smart move for Heritage. You did him a big favor.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 02:41 PM
Feb 2015

The examples I've seen of his signature were shaky and almost child-like.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
14. I wasn't the one who did them a favor
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 04:46 PM
Feb 2015

They had already described it that way. They said that obviously some people didn't read the catalog description before jumping on it, and that they maybe should have made it more prominent in their PR, but they never described it as anything else. They're really pretty straight, and don't try to put stuff over on people. They're big, so there's a lot of jealousy, but they started out small, and remember it. They also listen to people if they have a legitimate beef, and do respond to legitimate queries, admitting mistakes if they're convinced of them. If you have something of real importance, you can get a CEO on the phone. They're not like Christie's, where unless you're the baron of somewhere, you don't get past some suit and tie who's making $22,500 a year and thinks a snooty British accent makes up for the rest.

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