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brooklynite

(94,792 posts)
Sun Feb 15, 2015, 11:27 AM Feb 2015

Danish Official: Gunman Who Killed Two People Was Inspired by Radical Islam

Source: Slate

After a massive manhunt involving “all the country’s police forces,” Danish officials say they shot dead the man who killed two civilians and wounded five police offices in separate attacks on a freedom of speech event and a synagogue. The targeting of an event that featured Lars Vilks, a controversial cartoonist who has faced numerous threats for depicting the Prophet Mohammed raised fears of a Charlie Hebdo sequel in Copenhagen.

"As a nation, we have experienced a series of hours we will never forget," Danish Prime Minister Helle Thorning-Schmidt said Sunday. "We have tasted the ugly taste of fear and powerlessness that terror would like to create. But we have also, as a society, answered back."

Both killings have been characterized as terror attacks and Jens Madsen, the head of the Danish intelligence agency, says investigators believe the gunman was inspired by Islamic radicalism, reports the Associated Press. The attacker was known to security forces, Madsen said, without going into detail. The Danish intelligence agency “is working on a theory that the perpetrator could have been inspired by the events in Paris. He could also have been inspired by material sent out by [the Islamic State group] and others," he added.

Read more: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/02/15/danish_official_gunman_in_attacks_was_inspired_by_radical_islam.html

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Danish Official: Gunman Who Killed Two People Was Inspired by Radical Islam (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2015 OP
Two "could have beens" are not a conclusion, are they? Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #1
No, but the fact he was already on the police radar makes it a pretty strong hypothesis. Yo_Mama Feb 2015 #14
So true.. Rhinodawg Feb 2015 #15
Has any more evidence developed? Comrade Grumpy Feb 2015 #25
well that is a shock. Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #2
Guns are an international blessing. nt onehandle Feb 2015 #3
Sure...All the Radical *****ist fighters are NEVER inspired by *****. Rhinodawg Feb 2015 #4
No one's saying you're not allowed to say THAT. alp227 Feb 2015 #19
If you ever see me do it, send me the link. Rhinodawg Feb 2015 #20
Headline I'd like to see. MattSh Feb 2015 #5
That would be Dick Cheney. N/t roamer65 Feb 2015 #21
Nothing to do with Islam Rhinodawg Feb 2015 #6
+1 Mosby Feb 2015 #11
You know who else is fawning over that video? alp227 Feb 2015 #18
I see you are upset... Rhinodawg Feb 2015 #22
All three monotheisms have Skidmore Feb 2015 #27
So he was not a "self described atheist" RoccoR5955 Feb 2015 #7
Ummmmmm, you do know that this happened in Copenhagen, GGJohn Feb 2015 #24
seems like millions are being inspired by it samsingh Feb 2015 #8
Oh please...These insane, reactionary anti-liberal beliefs of Rhinodawg Feb 2015 #10
again, ISIS is now estimated to be 200,000 strong and growing rapidly samsingh Feb 2015 #23
The audio included in the Slate link in the OP is blood chilling. Pooka Fey Feb 2015 #9
Find those who teach these people to create terror seveneyes Feb 2015 #12
Well, you may a partial wish. Rhinodawg Feb 2015 #16
Society has the power to end most of the teachings that create mayhem seveneyes Feb 2015 #17
Really? tabasco Feb 2015 #13
And who bankrolls radical islam? CJCRANE Feb 2015 #26
His classmates from high school described his hateful comments against the west aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2015 #28

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
14. No, but the fact he was already on the police radar makes it a pretty strong hypothesis.
Sun Feb 15, 2015, 04:04 PM
Feb 2015

The nature of the attacks support the hypothesis, but the prior information would be an important factor.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
25. Has any more evidence developed?
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 04:50 PM
Feb 2015

All I've heard is that he had a criminal record and gang affiliations.

Most of these "lone wolf" guys seem to be lumpen types.

 

Rhinodawg

(2,219 posts)
4. Sure...All the Radical *****ist fighters are NEVER inspired by *****.
Sun Feb 15, 2015, 12:15 PM
Feb 2015

So, how many of the over 100,000 terrorist attack have N O T H I N G to do with ***** ?

(cant say the obvious...nope... its not allowed to say the f**king truth ....crazy)

alp227

(32,065 posts)
19. No one's saying you're not allowed to say THAT.
Sun Feb 15, 2015, 06:09 PM
Feb 2015

Instead, don't conflate ALL Muslims with the crazies.

 

Rhinodawg

(2,219 posts)
20. If you ever see me do it, send me the link.
Sun Feb 15, 2015, 06:26 PM
Feb 2015

cause I never conflate "ALL" muslims with what you call the "crazies"....or what everyone else calls Radical Global Islamic Terrorism.

 

Rhinodawg

(2,219 posts)
6. Nothing to do with Islam
Sun Feb 15, 2015, 12:42 PM
Feb 2015

Last edited Sun Feb 15, 2015, 01:25 PM - Edit history (2)

(To the jury,Ive research it and Pat Condell had been posted multiple times on Du before without getting a hide
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x182508
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x485257
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x591981
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101729520#post1
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http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x462769

A lot of people like his views...and some don't.

I really don't want a hide and I don't know who to ask or figure out if I'm risking a hide.
I think I've proved it its ok to post with the proof I've given and those people who posted didn't get it hidden.
Thank you for your indulgence)






alp227

(32,065 posts)
18. You know who else is fawning over that video?
Sun Feb 15, 2015, 06:08 PM
Feb 2015
David Horowitz's FrontPage Magazine - whose slogan is "inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out". Shows you which target audience Condell is pandering to.
 

Rhinodawg

(2,219 posts)
22. I see you are upset...
Sun Feb 15, 2015, 06:46 PM
Feb 2015

see this post and let it rip. Lets see you got the guts respond to that.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141014484#post56

Islam is a bigoted, misogynistic belief system...

And inspires all sorts of terrible acts, just as it condones it in its own books. Just like all the Abrahamic faiths.

Religious privilege is the only reason Islam is treated with kid gloves as an idea. As with other religions.

"Islamophobia" is a stupid term, as it would be akin to saying "fascist phobia". What would be more accurate a term in "Muslimphobia". And yes, there are people out there with irrational fears of Muslims, or who are just xenophobic and racist as well. But Islam, as an idea, is positively terrible.

I'm sick of the media, the President, etc. saying that all Muslims who kill in the name of their religion aren't "true" Muslims, it's dishonest bullshit that's a result of religious privilege. Or that Islam is a religion of peace. Really? Do people read the text?

And I'm sick of every event where a Muslim kills in the name of Islam of having people try to deflect from any criticism of Islam with the bullshit known as "Islamophobia". Islam itself contributes to lots of phobias, homophobia being among them, it's not irrational to think it's an immoral, assholish belief system.

Many people on DU really don't get this, as not only are they steeped in religious privilege, but it's hard for them to see an American minority group as subscribing to bad or conservative ideas under most circumstances, because it doesn't match with their experiences and prejudices.

I think if a person kills in the name of Islam, it should be treated as the hate crime it is, and also be another good opportunity to denounce the terrible ideas of Islam.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
27. All three monotheisms have
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 05:28 PM
Feb 2015

their share of bigoted, mysogynistic ideas and all claim privilege. All of them have fundamentalist adherents who care nothing about any other peoples in the world save their coreligionists and preserving the narrow version of Truth and Sanctity they lay claim to. It seems to me that all three of the Abrahimic religions have been given huge passes in a world they are shredding as they lay claim to being the chosen of god.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
7. So he was not a "self described atheist"
Sun Feb 15, 2015, 12:54 PM
Feb 2015

as the mainstream media says.
He was a wingnut, who thought that killing would accomplish something.
In some ways it does. In some ways, sane people abhor violence even more when it is used in such a way.

 

Rhinodawg

(2,219 posts)
10. Oh please...These insane, reactionary anti-liberal beliefs of
Sun Feb 15, 2015, 01:58 PM
Feb 2015

intolerance , anti-Semitism, violence, misogyny, homophobia and racism have nothing to do with Islam.... even if the people committing these acts say they are.

A few bad apples...



samsingh

(17,602 posts)
23. again, ISIS is now estimated to be 200,000 strong and growing rapidly
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 09:54 AM
Feb 2015

about 10% of the 1billion are believed to be very supportive of an ultra view of the religion.

that's hardly a few bad apples.

Pooka Fey

(3,496 posts)
9. The audio included in the Slate link in the OP is blood chilling.
Sun Feb 15, 2015, 01:53 PM
Feb 2015

Last edited Sun Feb 15, 2015, 02:46 PM - Edit history (1)

I read the whole article, but the audio really brought this event even more clearly into focus.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
12. Find those who teach these people to create terror
Sun Feb 15, 2015, 03:08 PM
Feb 2015

Isolate them from spreading their death to the vulnerable.

 

Rhinodawg

(2,219 posts)
16. Well, you may a partial wish.
Sun Feb 15, 2015, 04:51 PM
Feb 2015

Calls to Arrest Danish Imam Who Prayed for Killing of Jews


In a joint Berlin press conference with the Mideast Freedom Forum Berlin, the associate dean of the center, Rabbi Abraham Cooper, called on the German Justice Ministry to issue an arrest warrant for Sheikh Abu Bilal Ismail, a Danish imam who called for the extermination of the Jews at Berlin’s al-Nur mosque in July.

Ismail said it was necessary to “Destroy the Zionist Jews…” and to “Count them and kill them to the very last one. Don’t spare a single one of them… Make them suffer terribly.”


http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Wiesenthal-Center-calls-for-arrest-of-Denmark-based-imam-375662

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
17. Society has the power to end most of the teachings that create mayhem
Sun Feb 15, 2015, 04:57 PM
Feb 2015

The will to do so appears to be in short supply.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
26. And who bankrolls radical islam?
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 05:17 PM
Feb 2015

No one wants to look into that.

Let's just have more unwinnable wars and more surveillance.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
28. His classmates from high school described his hateful comments against the west
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 10:51 PM
Feb 2015

A guy from his class was interviewed on tv and it seems that he expressed hatred against western culture during class discussions, years before the shooting. It would appear that his tendency towards radicalism occurred well before he went to prison.

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