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Omaha Steve

(99,686 posts)
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 11:35 PM Feb 2015

Investigators find 32,000 emails in IRS probe

Source: AP-Excite

By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER

WASHINGTON (AP) — Investigators said Thursday they have recovered 32,000 emails related to a former IRS official at the heart of the agency's tea party scandal.

But they don't know how many of them are new.

The emails were to and from Lois Lerner, who used to head the IRS division that processes applications for tax-exempt status. Last June, the IRS told Congress it had lost an unknown number of Lerner's email when her computer hard drive crashed in 2011.

At the time, IRS officials said the emails could not be recovered. But at a congressional hearing Thursday evening, IRS Deputy Inspector General Timothy Camus said investigators recovered thousands of emails from old computer tapes used to back up the agency's email system.

FULL story at link.



FILE - This March 5, 2014 file photo shows former Internal Revenue Service (IRS) official Lois Lerner on Capitol Hill in Washington. Investigators said Thursday, Feb. 26, 2015, they have recovered 32,000 emails related to the former IRS official at the heart of the agency{2019}s tea party scandal. But they don{2019}t know how many of them are new. (AP Photo/Lauren Victoria Burke, File)


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Investigators find 32,000 emails in IRS probe (Original Post) Omaha Steve Feb 2015 OP
OK, so what do they say? Do they simply support her statement that the IRS napi21 Feb 2015 #1
They don't know how many are new? Thor_MN Feb 2015 #2
if they re not deleted they are backed up over and over and over..... notadmblnd Feb 2015 #4
Each and every email is timedate stamped. Thor_MN Feb 2015 #6
agntsa uhnope Feb 2015 #3
KKKKKarl Rove Iliyah Feb 2015 #5
the idea is to run out the clock? on the 114th Congress? quadrature Feb 2015 #7
Still using tapes for backup? PSPS Feb 2015 #8
US Government - tight IT budgets - servers - 2011......yeah, probably........... lastlib Feb 2015 #9
of course. LittleGirl Feb 2015 #10
So will they also be probing unfair scrutiny on liberal groups? LiberalLovinLug Feb 2015 #11

napi21

(45,806 posts)
1. OK, so what do they say? Do they simply support her statement that the IRS
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 11:39 PM
Feb 2015

was questioning everybody who applied for tax exempt status, regardless of politics?

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
2. They don't know how many are new?
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 11:44 PM
Feb 2015

Every single email is freaking timedate stamped in more than one way. Watch for the release late tomorrow that says they didn't find anything of note. #GOPwasteoftime #GOPwasteofmoney

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
4. if they re not deleted they are backed up over and over and over.....
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 11:50 PM
Feb 2015

so there could very well be emails that they already have copies of and not necessarily new ones.

When I worked with servers, we backed them up daily, weekly, monthly and yearly. Each back up had different retention periods. Daily's were kept 2 weeks, weeklies were kept a month. Monthly's were kept 12 months and yearly's were kept 7 years.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
6. Each and every email is timedate stamped.
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 11:59 PM
Feb 2015

They can very easily filter out emails that are not from the time period they are interested in.

Less easy, but still doable, is comparing the one that are in the time frame to the one that they already have found that disprove their conspiracy fantasies.

Bottom line, late afternoon tomorrow, Friday, they will quietly announce they still are wasting time and money.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
5. KKKKKarl Rove
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 11:57 PM
Feb 2015

With Rummy, Cheney and the others are plotting while corporate media who shows you Paul, Walker and the rest of the ones who does not come close to the WH. The one in GOP's eyes is another Bush.

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
10. of course.
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 03:03 AM
Feb 2015

Hardware equipment costs a butt load of money to replace and I wonder how much time it took to do this? Many gov't agencies use the lowest bid for hardware equipment so you get what you pay for.

We had to restore email back up tapes for a law suit at a company I worked at in 2002 and it took months to get those emails restored. I know. I had to manage the project. It's a labor intensive job to do it and old tapes restore slowly, and you need a butt load of hardware to save the restored files to. And people back then didn't delete emails (because they were covering their ass) so one email backup could be a gig of data or more. Back then, that was a butt load of memory. And hardware back then took hours to function at today's speeds because the technology was just older. So restoring tapes takes a long time because of that fact.

After we restored the data, we had to use search tools to identify the individual's email inbox we had to supply to the lawyers. That took another butt load of hours to run the tool which separated those inboxes from the backups. Then the manual labor hours to actually read the inbox files.

I am glad I wasn't on that project (now) as that would have made me freaking crazy to do that work again.

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