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Omaha Steve

(99,658 posts)
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 01:32 PM Mar 2015

Denver police cameras didn't record most use-of-force cases

Source: AP-Excite

By SADIE GURMAN
DENVER (AP) — In a warning to law enforcement agencies rushing to equip officers with body cameras after killings by police nationwide, a new report says the devices used by Denver officers during a trial period didn't record most of the use-of-force incidents that occurred.

Denver's independent police monitor, Nicholas Mitchell, also said police used force more often and citizens' complaints against officers rose during the cameras' six-month trial period in the city's busy downtown district. Police officials repeatedly said they expected the cameras would drive down those numbers.

Experts say the early findings released Tuesday are a reminder that the effectiveness of the increasingly popular technology, billed as a tool to improve police accountability, still depends on the officers using it.

Denver officers' body cameras recorded just 21 of 80 documented uses of force in the downtown district during the trial, which ran from June to December, Mitchell found. Thirty-five of the encounters weren't recorded because they involved off-duty officers, who were not required to wear the cameras while moonlighting as security guards.

FULL story at link.


Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20150311/us--denver_police-body_cameras-ee53de0613.html

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d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
4. (Puts tin foil hat on)
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 02:36 PM
Mar 2015

But the gubbbermint! And mind control! And Benghazi!

(Takes tin foil hat off)

But seriously how about enacting laws that prevent police from taking cameras from the citizens? So far anyone within reach of a crime involving excessive force has their camera taken from them for "evidence".

Omaha Steve

(99,658 posts)
5. Omaha officers told: Don't interfere with citizens' right to record police activity
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 02:57 PM
Mar 2015


YOUTUBE


A frame grab from a video posted on YouTube shows police officers chasing Juaquez Johnson into a house at 33rd and Seward Streets on March 21, 2013.

http://www.omaha.com/news/omaha-officers-told-don-t-interfere-with-citizens-right-to/article_138c5ce9-d595-53f6-b80c-fe5b64f61267.html


POSTED: SATURDAY, MAY 11, 2013 12:00 AM
By Maggie O'Brien WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER

Omaha police officers are hitting the streets with a clear directive: Don't interfere with citizens' right to record police action.

The department has refined its policy on the public's use of cameras and video in the wake of a YouTube posting of an arrest that led to the firing of four officers, two of whom are charged with criminal wrongdoing. The March 21 incident highlighted the sometimes contentious terrain that officers and citizens navigate when cameras increasingly capture their interactions.

“Individuals have a First Amendment right to record police officers in the public discharge of their duties, plain and simple,” said Deputy Chief Greg Gonzalez.

The department has long recognized that right. But the revised policy, which cites federal case law, states that citizens cannot be arrested simply for recording police or being near a crime scene.

FULL story at link.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
6. Must be nice to live in Omaha
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 03:41 PM
Mar 2015

[link:http://www.ehow.com/list_6779829_rules-filming-law-enforcement-florida.html|

Two-Party Consent (in Florida)

If your camera or recording device captures sound, not just video, more rules come into play. Florida is a two-party consent state when it comes to audio recordings. This means that if your camera is also catching sound, law enforcement officers must be aware of and give their consent to the filming. This can place you in jeopardy of interfering with their duties if you approach the scene and interrupt them for the purpose of gaining their consent, and it’s highly unlikely that they’d give it to you under the circumstances. The location factor offers a loophole to this rule, however, because the police have no expectation of privacy in a public place, so the conversation is technically fair game and their consent to record it is not required. You might need an attorney to argue this for you if the officers take exception to your activities. It’s possible that they could arrest you or confiscate your camera and let the court sort out later whether they had a right to do so.

http://www.ehow.com/list_6779829_rules-filming-law-enforcement-florida.html

(We're not so lucky)

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
7. Doesn't mean they will listen...
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 05:03 PM
Mar 2015

they will just issue an apology afterwards and put someone on a paid leave.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
8. So give the cops cameras they can't turn off...
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 05:05 PM
Mar 2015

... and rip 'em if the mess with the cameras. Fuckers have got to learn that they are NOT above the law themselves. Better yet, hold the brass accountable as well for every infraction committed by those under their command. Then you damn sure betcha the shit will stop!

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
3. There should be a blanket ban on working as a security guard in uniform.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 02:24 PM
Mar 2015

That sort of thing has always pissed me off. When you are wearing your uniform, you are presenting yourself as an officer and employee of the government. If you're moonlighting on the side in your uniform, you are basically using false government authority to generate private profit for yourself. I don't understand HOW that is legal, and yet you see it all over the country.

If you're not on duty, you shouldn't be in uniform. I you're not on duty, you should not be allowed to use your uniform to support a private business.

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
10. I'm sure they fired the cops who turned off the cameras
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 07:51 AM
Mar 2015

Because all the good cops would prevent criminals from serving as police officers.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
11. The cops are not the ones who need the cameras running.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 08:07 AM
Mar 2015

They are not being protected from the public, it's the other way around, the cameras are to protect the public from the cops. Once they get the idea right, it should be straightforward to make it happen. But you need to ignore the cops habitual self-pity first.

The cops must NOT be in control of the cameras, and must NOT be able to turn them off. They are low-level employees, and need to learn their place. We should really replace them with robots anyway, robots are more reliable and don't give you any lip.

duhneece

(4,113 posts)
12. There's another kind that automatically begins when a gun is pulled from holster
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 08:22 AM
Mar 2015

...probably more expensive...but a human life is priceless.

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