GOP: Obama war request is dead

[n2doc]

Source: The Hill

President Obama’s request to use military force against Islamic State in Iraq and Syria terrorists is dead in the House, Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy declared on Monday.

The California Republican told reporters Obama’s request for an authorization of use of military force, or AUMF, could not attain a simple 218-vote majority in the lower chamber.

“I do not see a path to 218 with what the president sent up because the world has become more dangerous since he laid out Yemen as the strategy of how to move forward,” McCarthy told reporters in a briefing in his office. “This would weaken our ability to respond to our current situation.”

Administration officials have held up the U.S.’s counterterrorism efforts in Yemen as a model for success in battling Islamic extremists, but ongoing fighting there prompted the U.S. to close the U.S. embassy and evacuate military personnel.

Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/defense/238619-gop-obama-war-request-is-dead

[Demeter]

1. Thank you, GOP House of Reps.

Doing your job!

[bemildred]

2. Aw shucks. nt

[Turbineguy]

3. Yeah, that was pretty much the same thing that happened

when Clinton tried to go after Al Qaeda in Afghanistan.

[Politicalboi]

4. I thought we had to fight them there

So we wouldn't have to fight them here. If Obama needed a vote for world peace, the GOP would vote NO!

[RiverNoord]

6. If Obama endorsed a Constitutional amendment

declaring that only members of the Republican party could hold elected or appointed public office, Ted Cruz would commandeer the floor of the Senate and decry it as a liberal conspiracy...

[Doc Holliday]

10. I've heard that phrase for years.

Ever since the Vietnam War.

My response then and now was and is, "Maybe if we were fighting them here we could beat them."

But beating them is not even part of the plan anymore, is it?

[Botany]

19. If Obama says puppies are cute the republicans would ......

try to say that is a lie.

[madokie]

25. Anything Obama wants the gop will not allow if at all possible that is

He knows that, I know that, most everyone paying attention knows that.
fuck a bunch of crybaby racist 'CONs

[Spitfire of ATJ]

30. The GOP wants this to be a campaign issue....

They NEED Isis to be out there to pump up the fear.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

5. Haha - Obama Gotcha!

[George II]

7. Setting themselves up to blame the next disaster on Obama. BENGHAZI!

[samsingh]

8. repugs side with ISIS

[KansDem]

9. Yeah, wait for the "Band of 47" to send them a letter

[samsingh]

18. tehran cotton may send them a love letter.

[DeSwiss]

20. Whatthefuckever.

- He's droned enough women and children, don't you think? Or not?

I really don't feel all that threatened by two and three year-olds........

[samsingh]

21. maybe if you were running a marathon in boston you might feel differently

[jakeXT]

38. Not much talk about that region

It is as of yet unclear to what extent either of the ethnically Chechen Tsarnaev brothers may have received training from radicalized Islamists in that region of the world.

But although security experts and officeholders like McCaul are now making bold statements about the dangers of terrorists from Chechnya, the White House has been publicly silent on the region for years.

A Smart Politics study of presidential statements and speeches finds that Barack Obama never mentioned Chechnya prior to the Boston bombings, with the last time any president mentioning the region coming in November 2005.

Bill Clinton, whose administration overlapped both Chechen wars in the mid- and late-1990s and into the 21st Century, mentioned Chechnya 74 times as president across 42 different public speeches and written statements.

http://blog.lib.umn.edu/cspg/smartpolitics/2013/04/off_the_radar_chechnya_never_m.php

Chechen Terrorists and the Neocons
April 19, 2013

The revelation that the family of the two suspects in the Boston Marathon bombings was from Chechnya prompted new speculation about the attack as Islamic terrorism. Less discussed was the history of U.S. neocons supporting Chechen terrorists as a strategy to weaken Russia, as ex-FBI agent Coleen Rowley recalls.

By Coleen Rowley

I almost choked on my coffee listening to neoconservative Rudy Giuliani pompously claim on national TV that he was surprised about any Chechens being responsible for the Boston Marathon bombings because he’s never seen any indication that Chechen extremists harbored animosity toward the U.S.; Guiliani thought they were only focused on Russia.

Giuliani knows full well how the Chechen “terrorists” proved useful to the U.S. in keeping pressure on the Russians, much as the Afghan mujahedeen were used in the anti-Soviet war in Afghanistan from 1980 to 1989. In fact, many neocons signed up as Chechnya’s “friends,” including former CIA Director James Woolsey.

For instance, see this 2004 article in the UK Guardian, entitled, “The Chechens’ American friends: The Washington neocons’ commitment to the war on terror evaporates in Chechnya, whose cause they have made their own.”

https://consortiumnews.com/2013/04/19/chechen-terrorists-and-the-neocons/

[Little Tich]

36. I think the drones have done a lot of harm.

It might be that I just don’t like war, but I believe that unexpected attacks from the air that kills civilians really pisses people off.

[jakeXT]

39. “Now I prefer cloudy days when the drones don’t fly."

“Now I prefer cloudy days when the drones don’t fly. When the sky brightens and becomes blue, the drones return and so does the fear. Children don’t play so often now, and have stopped going to school. Education isn’t possible as long as the drones circle overhead.”

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/29/pakistan-family-drone-victim-testimony-congress

[central scrutinizer]

11. Just give ISIS a tax cut and reduce government regulations

that is the Repugs answer to everything.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

12. Of course. There's a danger we could win....

Then the GOP couldn't run on the war.

[valerief]

14. PNAC can always start another war. nt

[Spitfire of ATJ]

29. Yeah,...Aaron Russo said the next one is going to be an alien invasion.

[valerief]

33. An "Illegal Alien" invasion? nt

[Spitfire of ATJ]

37. A simulated attack by Little Green Men.

[SoapBox]

13. Whiplash.

They want "war", they don't want "war"...

Up is down and down is up...black is white and white is black...

The Opposite World of the Pukes and Baggers.

[seveneyes]

15. This one deserves a Duet

[rainmaker21]

16. I'm completely confused at this point.

I'm not sure who we are fighting, who we are against, who is for and who is against? It has turned into complete chaos.

[Deny and Shred]

23. We're fighting Eurasia.

We have always been fighting Eurasia. This will continue, until the fight is with Eastasia. We will have always been fighting Eastasia.

It's best to stop thinking and love ... our military/industrial/surveillance brother.

[MisterP]

32. we told the ultra-Salafists to get even more so against Qaddafi and Assad

we could say Libya has was a thrumming, oil-rich liberal democracy until we lost a consul, and Assad could be blamed for only so long: at the moment we're aiding both the "Free Syrians" and giving all our intel to Assad; Israel likes al-Qaeda's an-Nusra, and the US is starting to be AQAP's air support against the Houthis, which Tehran supports, while we fight alongside the Iranians, battling ISIS (whose front groups we all support) alongside the Shiite death squads

Riyadh is also playing its own game--like late-70s Buenos Aires, the best place for its expert torturers and throat-cutters and professional rape-instructors is abroad

I think I left a lot out, though (plus all our 80s shenanigans with Zia and Nimeiry and Azzam)

[rainmaker21]

34. Thanks for the help.

But it is all too confusing. I'm pretty sure none of it is doing us any good.

[Botany]

17. Republicans, "We like ISIS more then Obama"

Each time when you think they can't sink any lower they do.

President Obama has been given the almost impossible job of
cleaning up the mess caused by Dick and w's war which gave life
to ISIS.

[Major Hogwash]

22. Boehnor: We are the anti-war Congress!

Yeah, right, sure, right.

[DeSwiss]

24. K&R

- Better that his ''war request'' is dead than more babies. Although I know there must be somebody there left to bomb under all that rubble:









K&R

We really do need to stop saving the children by killing the children...

[ManiacJoe]

27. Do those pictures actually go with your link?

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[DeSwiss]

28. Those are pictures of a bombed out Syria, which doesn't seem to have much left to destroy.

And what they have to do with the link I provided, is that they both depict acts of cowards who're acting in our name. Destroying the homes, hospitals, and schools of civilians. While killing children, babies and their mothers without impunity and without fear of anyone in the world standing-up against them. Except idiots like myself, who are determined not to live a lie. Especially someone else's.

- They have to do with the fact that the authority not being granted by Congress in this case so that such inhumane carnage is less likely to continue, forwhateverfuckingreason, is fine by me.

[ManiacJoe]

31. Thanks for the explanation of your tie-in.

[DeSwiss]

35. De nada.

[mike_c]

26. while I agree that this is the best course...

...I really really really wish Obama would come out in opposition to raising the minimum wage to $20/hr. I also wish he would vocally oppose taxing the wealthy. He should also make a strong statement opposing universal single payer health care.