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bananas

(27,509 posts)
Sat May 9, 2015, 12:09 PM May 2015

Institute for Pale Blue Dots Renamed to Honor Carl Sagan, Will Search for Alien Life

Source: Space.com

An institute dedicated to searching for alien life in the cosmos has been renamed in honor of the late astrophysicist and science popularizer Carl Sagan.

Cornell University's Institute for Pale Blue Dots has been renamed the Carl Sagan Institute: Pale Blue Dots and Beyond to honor the legacy of Carl Sagan. At an inaugural event for the institute held today (May 9) at Cornell, Sagan's wife and frequent collaborator, Ann Druyan, revealed the institute's new name.

"There's a meta quality to this day," Druyan said in a statement from the institute. "Honoring Carl by empowering interdisciplinary scientists to search for the answers to his most passionate scientific questioning, seeking to share that understanding with the public and finding in that knowledge applications to life-threatening dangers here on Earth — that's a multileveled and highly accurate reflection of who Carl was." [Carl Sagan's Legacy in Pictures]

"From the moment I first met astrophysicist Lisa Kaltenegger, the Carl Sagan Institute's founding director, I recognized one of Carl's kindred," said Druyan, who is also an Emmy and Peabody award-winning writer and producer. "It's thanks to her that his legacy is being given such vibrant expression here at Cornell."

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Read more: http://www.space.com/29356-carl-sagan-alien-life-search-institute.html

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Institute for Pale Blue Dots Renamed to Honor Carl Sagan, Will Search for Alien Life (Original Post) bananas May 2015 OP
Live stream of today's inaugural events bananas May 2015 #1
Sagan doubted the existence of UFOs... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #2
Where Liberalagogo May 2015 #4
Ufos and alien life kinda go hand in hand. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #6
NO where Liberalagogo May 2015 #7
"Adding that idea to this is demeaning this group." Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #8
And he still believed in Extraterrestrial life Liberalagogo May 2015 #9
Because people equate the two.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #10
And yet its has NOTHING to do with this article. Liberalagogo May 2015 #11
Why so hostile? Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #14
I think most scientists would disagree with you. Peace Patriot May 2015 #12
I'm talking about popular culture. Not academia.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #13
I still ache that he's gone. But it's a comfort that the brilliant Neil deGrasse Tyson is there calimary May 2015 #3
Another tribute we can hope for sarge43 May 2015 #5
 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
2. Sagan doubted the existence of UFOs...
Sat May 9, 2015, 12:37 PM
May 2015

He figured nobody would travel vast distances without saying, "Hi."

 

Liberalagogo

(1,770 posts)
7. NO where
Sat May 9, 2015, 01:53 PM
May 2015

in the post does it mention UFOs. Alien life can exist and be detected without any flying saucers needed. Adding that idea to this is demeaning this group. Sagan did believe in extraterrestrial life. THAT is was this is about. Try to absorb that fact.

 

Liberalagogo

(1,770 posts)
9. And he still believed in Extraterrestrial life
Sat May 9, 2015, 02:21 PM
May 2015

And you still haven't said why the eff you're bringing up UFOs and such.

It has NOTHING to do with this.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
10. Because people equate the two....
Sat May 9, 2015, 02:23 PM
May 2015

Trust me. If scientists found a snail shell on Mars Bubba from Alabama would be on the news talking about his anal probe.

 

Liberalagogo

(1,770 posts)
11. And yet its has NOTHING to do with this article.
Sat May 9, 2015, 02:33 PM
May 2015

Why don't you bring up ghosts and demons, too?

You're the one bringing up this nonsense, not "Bubba" from Alabama.

When you show me where in this article and post it talks about UFOs, then you can reply. Til then, I don't care to discuss this anymore. So please no reply.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
12. I think most scientists would disagree with you.
Sat May 9, 2015, 03:44 PM
May 2015

I've been following NASA's search for exoplanets (planets around other suns, far, far away--several thousand discovered so far--some habitable--satisfy some of the known conditions for life) and NASA's and others' efforts to pinpoint conditions for life having developed elsewhere, within our solar system, within our galaxy and within our universe--efforts that have shown compelling results so far (exoplanets everywhere; evidence of water everywhere; evidence of huge oceans beneath the ice on the moons of Jupiter and Saturn, and more). I'd say that the search for life in the universe has ignited the scientific community, especially over the last few decades with the discovery of so many exoplanets (estimated billions of them in our galaxy alone).

This has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not aliens have visited our planet--until and unless we find out that they have (based on unambiguous evidence). There may be something else of interest at work in the UFO phenomenon--intuition, or perhaps some other psychic phenomenon, whereby some people FEEL that alien life exists, and this feeling has inspired science fiction writers, who have, in turn, inspired scientists to look for alien life. It might be possible that intuitive and creative minds felt the presence of other life in the universe before modern science addressed itself to this issue. That intuition could take many forms--including hallucinations of alien abduction, etc., dreams and myths (of indigenous peoples, for instance), religious perceptions of angels and other powerful celestial beings, as well as writing fiction about it. Indeed, Arthur C. Clarke addresses this very phenomenon (human psychological projection of aliens, that turns out to have substance in reality) in his science fiction book "Childhood's End" (one of the best science fiction books ever written).

I don't scoff at UFOers, myself. Some experience has seized some of them very powerfully--whether it is abduction, or their focus on the many strange things that have happened in human history, or still happen. Few of them are out for money or fame, from what I can see. Indeed, UFO experiences or research seems to cause a lot of problems for people--it kind of invades their lives, rather than helping them materially. It could be delusion, or a skewed personal obsession, or something else. (Ever read "The Mind Parasites," by Colin Wilson--an sf book about alien invasion via the human brain? Interesting book!) I think the "something else" needs to be explored. Why does the human mind create aliens, angels, devils, gods, ghosts, fairies, etc.? Why do some of us create these beings that skeptics cannot see? Why do they believe in them, often with great passion? Why do we have this capacity? What IS this capacity?

I have a feeling that, one day, science may address THIS question in a serious way, and may find out what all that unused brain matter is FOR. Maybe all the illusions and delusions that human beings experience point to some higher abilities as yet unknown, misunderstood or simply ignored by "hard" scientists, who feel the need to prove that they aren't delude-able.

But the hard fact is that hard scientists are now seriously, systematically and with great fervor engaging in a search for life elsewhere--whether intelligent or just microbial. THEY would laugh at your equation of aliens with UFOs, by which you clearly mean that the search for life elsewhere is goofy and delusional. Well, it ain't delusional any more. It IS "out there"--and, given what has been found out recently, it is only a matter of time before it is discovered. This is not goofy. This is hard science.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
13. I'm talking about popular culture. Not academia....
Sat May 9, 2015, 03:52 PM
May 2015

Remember the way the media presented the Viking Lander?

How many idiot newscasters wiggled their finger and said, "phone home"?

calimary

(81,289 posts)
3. I still ache that he's gone. But it's a comfort that the brilliant Neil deGrasse Tyson is there
Sat May 9, 2015, 12:43 PM
May 2015

to fill Sagan's shoes. He wears Sagan's mantle VERY well! Because in this day and age, you have to be a little bit sexy and a LOT bit media savvy to get any message out to the masses AND hope to have any of it stick. And Dr. Tyson can do that, just as his mentor Dr. Sagan did.

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