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TexasTowelie

(112,248 posts)
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 08:42 PM Jun 2015

Bobby Jindal signs bill letting employers drug test hair, expanding detection window to 90 days

Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune

Gov. Bobby Jindal signed a bill Friday (June 5) that lets employers in Louisiana drug test employees' hair. The window for detection with hair testing is about 90 days, compared to about two or three days with urine tests.

The sponsor of the legislation, State Rep. Paul Hollis, R-Covington, called hair samples the "the gold standard" of drug testing.

Hollis said language in the current law already allows for drug testing of hair, as well as blood and urine. But the 1997 statute is silent on the accreditations required to actually process the results of hair tests, he told the House Committee on Health and Welfare at an April 22 hearing on the bill.

House Bill 379, which has now been signed into law, opens up the option for companies to test hair by putting in place the necessary framework to legally drug test hair samples by requiring the College of American Pathologists to provide accreditation for the diagnostic facilities allowed to perform the testing.

Read more: http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/06/hair_drug_test_louisiana.html



Article published June 06, 2015 at 4:29 PM so it falls within the 12 hour window for LBN.
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Bobby Jindal signs bill letting employers drug test hair, expanding detection window to 90 days (Original Post) TexasTowelie Jun 2015 OP
Go very far away, Jindal, and then keep going vlakitti Jun 2015 #1
Punishment get the red out Jun 2015 #4
Start with all in the Legislature... SoapBox Jun 2015 #2
And make sure to test Jindal too. 47of74 Jun 2015 #28
Why maindawg Jun 2015 #3
Hair drug tests are unreliable. Archae Jun 2015 #5
they have,,, Cryptoad Jun 2015 #10
mean spirted and hateful... that's who they are Va Lefty Jun 2015 #6
I don't use drugs - not even pot and I hate laws like this (or even having employers allowed to MillennialDem Jun 2015 #7
Lots of bald employees soon? HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #8
No hair for a sample is typically madville Jun 2015 #13
There are other hairy regions... :) Helen Borg Jun 2015 #38
Friend of mine failed a hair follicle test for amphetamines, which he doesn't do. hobbit709 Jun 2015 #9
Following the mental process of these pea-brained ass holes.... Hulk Jun 2015 #11
I'd like a law where I can test politicians safeinOhio Jun 2015 #12
Would do no good. christx30 Jun 2015 #40
I'd keep a bald head. Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #14
vacation to Colorado? greymattermom Jun 2015 #15
I don't have a problem with this. n/t cosmicone Jun 2015 #16
I can tell by the avatar and sig Reter Jun 2015 #19
LOL. Good one! nm progree Jun 2015 #32
WHY????? napi21 Jun 2015 #17
"Drug tests" are used to classify people, especially women. . . Journeyman Jun 2015 #21
Excellent point! Some of the worst travesties in history start with do-gooder premises RKP5637 Jun 2015 #26
"compared to about two or three days with urine tests" - I thought it was a month for pot. nm progree Jun 2015 #18
It varies by drug. TexasTowelie Jun 2015 #20
I smoke occasionally Ruby the Liberal Jun 2015 #29
We tried this hollowdweller Jun 2015 #36
Two callers to Thom Hartmann show were ranting and raving about "The Stuff" or progree Jun 2015 #42
Ridiculous alboe Jun 2015 #22
My profession is subject to random as well as regular testing. CANDO Jun 2015 #23
How is it relevant fredamae Jun 2015 #24
Sleep deprivation worries me WAY more than Ruby the Liberal Jun 2015 #30
Yes.... fredamae Jun 2015 #31
Testing hair is much more expensive than urinalysis Novara Jun 2015 #25
Bingo! That's the whole story in a nutshell. nt valerief Jun 2015 #33
Clearly, Jindal and the legislative republicans have never walked the quarter after dark tymorial Jun 2015 #27
I'm seeing a lot of bald employees in Louisiana in the future. nt valerief Jun 2015 #34
People getting fired for smoking pot at home, fired for facebook posts, birth control, politics..... hollowdweller Jun 2015 #35
Would be interesting given LA's chemical industry jobs hollowdweller Jun 2015 #37
What if one is a member Helen Borg Jun 2015 #39
What if you have a severe poppy seed bagel habit? JCMach1 Jun 2015 #41

vlakitti

(401 posts)
1. Go very far away, Jindal, and then keep going
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 08:48 PM
Jun 2015

This guy is a real police state freak and a despicable human being. What's the point of all this?

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
3. Why
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 08:51 PM
Jun 2015

Do they rush to throw away their civil rights ? While they wrap themselves in the dont tread on me flag?

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
10. they have,,,
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 09:06 PM
Jun 2015

1.4 million lawyers on retainers to defend all these BS Laws they pass knowing they will not pass constitutional muster .... spread the joy!

 

MillennialDem

(2,367 posts)
7. I don't use drugs - not even pot and I hate laws like this (or even having employers allowed to
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 08:59 PM
Jun 2015

drug test you).

Why?

First of all I do believe it is another person's choices when they're off the clock. If they want to get bombed out of their mind, that's the business.

Second, for me the only thing drug testing can lead to is false positives which means more tests for me to keep my job... best case scenario.

madville

(7,412 posts)
13. No hair for a sample is typically
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 09:36 PM
Jun 2015

Considered a failed test. That's how the railroads do it these days, they use hair testing primarily now.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
9. Friend of mine failed a hair follicle test for amphetamines, which he doesn't do.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 09:00 PM
Jun 2015

It failed to detect the weed that he smokes.
took three months of bullshit before TPTB left him alone.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
11. Following the mental process of these pea-brained ass holes....
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 09:24 PM
Jun 2015

...I would guess that drug addicts roam the streets in Louisiana, and nobody is safe with all the addicts being taken over by their addictions. It must be terrible to live in a land where so many are under the influence of drugs, and the whole world is going down the shitter.

Thank God for this little fool, who single-handedly will test and destroy these human zombies that are controlled by their addictions to drugs and uncontrollable crime and threat to the community of God fearing, moral, righteous persons on the hill.

Holy sweet Jesus....strike this dumb shit down NOW!

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
15. vacation to Colorado?
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 09:51 PM
Jun 2015

So now will they outlaw vacations to locations where drug use is legal? No flights from New Orleans to Denver?

napi21

(45,806 posts)
17. WHY?????
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 10:47 PM
Jun 2015

I always thought the reason for drug testing was to insure safety in the work place, or to insure you weren't hiring a druggie when done before employment. I have to believe a hair test is more expensive than the std. urine test, so what are they trying to accomplish?

Journeyman

(15,036 posts)
21. "Drug tests" are used to classify people, especially women. . .
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 03:42 AM
Jun 2015

Once they've got your urine or blood, or in this case, your hair, there's nothing to stop them from conducting whatever tests they wish to run. So they use it to determine if women are using birth control, or are pregnant, or have entered menopause (which can have an immediate effect on potential advancement), or to learn what prescription drugs someone is using (the better to know what medical conditions they may be inflicted with), or even -- for a slightly higher fee -- to learn what potential someone may have for developing any of a number of debilitating diseases (correctly or not), and thus determine if it is a good investment to hire or keep them given the effect they may eventually have on the bottom line of health care and insurance.

So many potential abuses, so little effective safeguards. Yeah, they want to "keep the workplace safe," but they also want to protect their bottom line. And they don't care how many lives may get needlessly crushed in the process.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
26. Excellent point! Some of the worst travesties in history start with do-gooder premises
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 08:22 AM
Jun 2015

concluding in laws that are eventually morphed into horrific ... case in point, biological data banks.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
29. I smoke occasionally
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 10:46 AM
Jun 2015

and not much a day when I do - maybe 2-3 hits. Last year I did an experiment out of curiosity - I bought THC testing strips from amazon to see how long this stuff lingers as it is absorbed in fat, not water soluble. It took 5 weeks for me to pee clean. That was great information to have, but really discouraging as to what it says to the window of discrimination I'll face if I decide to change jobs some day in the future.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
36. We tried this
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 11:50 AM
Jun 2015

My fried usually smokes a few hits on Wed and then on the weekend maybe once a day.

Took 10 days to be totally clean.

If she took a couple hits on Friday night the test would be borderline on Monday and clean on Tuesday.

Went to a party and smoked all evening on a Sat and that took 5 days to show clean.

She did the first pee of the day and didn't drink any water or anything to give worst case scenario.

progree

(10,909 posts)
42. Two callers to Thom Hartmann show were ranting and raving about "The Stuff" or
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 02:04 PM
Jun 2015

"The Liquid Stuff".

2 callers to Thom Hartmann said they passed drug tests after using it, both said 2 X they've passed drug tests with it. Something about how it hides or gets rid of marijuana / its metabolites in the bloodstream. 3/12/14 show

I don't know; myself, I haven't had cannabis since about 1980 or so. I have a close friend though who deals with this issue.

alboe

(192 posts)
22. Ridiculous
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 04:38 AM
Jun 2015

Why don't they put cameras in your skin to see if you're doing drugs while you're at it? This is ridiculous.

 

CANDO

(2,068 posts)
23. My profession is subject to random as well as regular testing.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 06:04 AM
Jun 2015

And lately it's been through hair sampling. I offer up my armpits. And they snip away!

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
24. How is it relevant
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 08:05 AM
Jun 2015

to Safety-both public and workplace?
Testing with-in a 90 day window post smoking a cigarette, cannabis, drinking alcohol etc, etc, etc....Will NOT Improve safety!
All this is no way relevant to consumed substances whose effects only last for a few hours at best.
Cannabis does not metabolize out of your system for sometimes 6 Weeks post use but the effects are Gone with-in 4 hours (typically for smoked-longer for drinks/edibles)

So what possible improvement to public/workplace safety does he expect from such an Expensive endeavor?
This goes too far, accomplishes nothing and is in violation of Constitutional Rights, imo.
If Any lawmaker was truly Serious about Safety..then they would implement Impairment Testing Standards.
Science tells us........Consumption of substances is NOT the Only Public/Workplace Safety Hazard.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
31. Yes....
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 10:54 AM
Jun 2015

as are diseases, sick children/loved ones, back-pain/migraines etc, "life stressors/worries" (money typically), adverse reactions to prescribed medications, chemo-therapy, Death, Birth, Divorce, Marriage.....all of that and More cause distractions.
If one is distracted one is not as alert, there-fore safety is reduced.
Impairment Testing picks up All forms of "not operating at 100%" issues.

Novara

(5,843 posts)
25. Testing hair is much more expensive than urinalysis
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 08:09 AM
Jun 2015

Bobby must have had lunch with a couple of lab owners with deep pockets.

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
27. Clearly, Jindal and the legislative republicans have never walked the quarter after dark
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 08:46 AM
Jun 2015

If they had then perhaps external contamination might actually cause them to reconsider such a ridiculous law expansion.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
35. People getting fired for smoking pot at home, fired for facebook posts, birth control, politics.....
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 11:48 AM
Jun 2015

We really need a workers Bill of Rights that expands those protections to the private sector


At one time the Bill of Rights protected us but now so much is contracted out or farmed out to private companies that our privacy and stuff is way more in danger in the workplace than by the gov't.


 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
37. Would be interesting given LA's chemical industry jobs
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 11:52 AM
Jun 2015

If we tested employees on a regular random job for levels of toxic chemical exposure that could potentially impair job performance. But that would be socialisim right??
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