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TexasTowelie

(112,422 posts)
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 02:06 AM Jun 2015

U.S. Sen. Bill Cassidy introduces his Obamacare alternative

Source: Baton Rouge Advocate

Washington — U.S. Sen. Bill Cassidy, R-La., has rounded up some heavyweight co-sponsors for his proposed replacement to the Affordable Care Act, his office said, but the legislation still has a long way to go after Cassidy officially introduced it Tuesday.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., and Majority Whip John Cornyn, R-Texas, have signed on to Cassidy’s Patient Freedom Act, as have David Vitter, R-La., and four other Republicans.

Cassidy’s bill could form a significant element of the Republican response to a potential decision by the U.S. Supreme Court in favor of a conservative challenge to the 2010 law. But in a radio interview Monday, McConnell said the details of the response won’t be determined until after the Supreme Court makes its ruling, which is expected by the end of the month.

A ruling in favor of the Obama administration, which has defended the law — called “Obamacare” — against the challenge, would render an immediate Republican response moot. Each side has expressed confidence the court will rule its way, and the outcome is not at all certain.

Read more: http://theadvocate.com/news/12606447-123/us-sen-bill-cassidy-introduces

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U.S. Sen. Bill Cassidy introduces his Obamacare alternative (Original Post) TexasTowelie Jun 2015 OP
Diaper Man Vitter? SoapBox Jun 2015 #1
Even if the Senate GOPers are sincere, in trying to pass a replacement, the House won't go along Ex Lurker Jun 2015 #2
They are trying to cover their asses,,,,, Cryptoad Jun 2015 #10
Assuming the corporate media doesn't write the narrative d_legendary1 Jun 2015 #15
Smells like someone has inside information as to the ruiling davidpdx Jun 2015 #3
Allowing HSA money to go to premiums is an interesting idea Recursion Jun 2015 #4
HSAs are flatly ineffective for low income earners, the very people we've been trying to help. Zynx Jun 2015 #7
The assumption is always that the HSAs for poor people would be subsidized Recursion Jun 2015 #21
"Pricing transparency" is often invoked... CBHagman Jun 2015 #19
No, and nobody is claiming that. But the majority of medical care is routine Recursion Jun 2015 #20
Ya But, ya but, mindem Jun 2015 #5
Conveniently extending subsidies TexasBushwhacker Jun 2015 #6
Funny how all those so called details of all the GOP programs Cryptoad Jun 2015 #8
Tax deductions, grants, HSA... Historic NY Jun 2015 #9
Health savings accounts is a JOKE bigdarryl Jun 2015 #11
That's not how they work. n/t Dawgs Jun 2015 #12
Technically you can ONLY set up a HSA, if you have a high deductible insurance policy happyslug Jun 2015 #16
It wouldn't be a Republican bill without the word "freedom" in the title nt Roy Rolling Jun 2015 #13
Perfect!! vkkv Jun 2015 #14
Typical 1984 doublespeak. Boomerproud Jun 2015 #17
When they put the word "Freedom" into one of their bills, Aristus Jun 2015 #18

Ex Lurker

(3,816 posts)
2. Even if the Senate GOPers are sincere, in trying to pass a replacement, the House won't go along
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 02:25 AM
Jun 2015

they'd rather burn the whole thing down. The only silver lining is the resulting a Democratic landslide in 2016.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
10. They are trying to cover their asses,,,,,
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 08:51 AM
Jun 2015

if ruling goes against ACA ,, instantly the GOP loses millions of voters.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
15. Assuming the corporate media doesn't write the narrative
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 02:33 PM
Jun 2015

"Obamacare ruled unconstitutional"

Today the Supreme Court ruled to strike down a part of Obamacare that subsidizes health insurance for millions of Americans. The ruling comes as the result of a lawsuit, claiming that the government should not be handing out money to people who refuse to get a job and pay for insurance like all hard working Americans do. This is the second time the high court has struck down the law. The ruling came as a surprise to the White House, who has fired back calling the ruling the wrong decision.

"A lot of Americans will be forced to pay full price for a service that they were qualified for. With a simple decision by a minority of people these Americans will be left without any recourse for affordable health insurance", said the President at his press conference. "It is a victory for America and what it stands for", claimed Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell during the Senate's rebuttle conference. "We are not a nation that rewards people who do not work while Working Americans are trying their best to insure their families with their blood, sweat, and tears".

That's kinda the way the media is going to spin that shit anyway. They need that big pharma money in between their talking head shows to make a buck.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
3. Smells like someone has inside information as to the ruiling
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:05 AM
Jun 2015

They seem a bit over confident that the court is going to rule against the administration.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
21. The assumption is always that the HSAs for poor people would be subsidized
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 11:58 PM
Jun 2015

Obviously Cassidy's bill is a piece of crap, I just like the idea of premiums being payable from HSAs -- not a huge help for the poor, but probably a big help for the middle class.

CBHagman

(16,987 posts)
19. "Pricing transparency" is often invoked...
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 11:52 PM
Jun 2015

...but it's long been true that the care of a premature baby or a dying adult can quickly reach six figures. So people are going to shop for a cheaper alternative to the NICU when their child has an infection or a heart defect?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
20. No, and nobody is claiming that. But the majority of medical care is routine
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 11:56 PM
Jun 2015

And people often go in with absolutely no idea of what a routine procedure is going to cost.

Compare this to dentists: a lot of dentists publish a table of how much all of the routing dental care they offer costs.

I think a big step towards transparency is coming already with the WalMarts and CVSs of the country trying to provide a Nurse Practitioner-staffed clinic at every location: they say how much they charge for everything. Federally Qualified Health Clinics (which not only advertise rates but do so on a sliding income-based scale) are another good thing -- one of Sanders's best amendments was the one to the ACA that tripled their funding.

mindem

(1,580 posts)
5. Ya But, ya but,
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 07:46 AM
Jun 2015

their plan has the word freedum in it so it has to be good for the American people right? If it is for freedum it has to be good because nothing is more important than them protecting our freedums. Repukes are always for freedom and would never interfere in anyone's life. Freedum loving repukes would never do anything that would let big corporations set things up to grab everyone's money. I sure do love repuke freedom.


TexasBushwhacker

(20,214 posts)
6. Conveniently extending subsidies
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 08:02 AM
Jun 2015

until 2017, AFTER THE ELECTION. Because cutting subsidies in 2016 would be catastrophic for them.I bet their shittin' bricks that the SCOTUS might actually rule against the subsidies, because the states that didn't set up their own exchanges are primarily red states.

Historic NY

(37,453 posts)
9. Tax deductions, grants, HSA...
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 08:49 AM
Jun 2015

isn't this the same shit they want to do with social security, make it think your getting something. They want to do away with the insurance mandate but they'd never give you enough to get insurance. When that catastrophic medical bill arrives guess who's holding the bag, when the account doesn't have enough.

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
11. Health savings accounts is a JOKE
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 09:04 AM
Jun 2015

If someone needs heart surgery no way a savings account is going to cover a 300,000 dollar operation

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
16. Technically you can ONLY set up a HSA, if you have a high deductible insurance policy
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 08:31 PM
Jun 2015
http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/faqs/Taxes/Pages/Health-Savings-Accounts.aspx

They can NOT be your primary form of Medical Insurance, you MUST have other medical insurance.

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