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alboe

(192 posts)
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 04:09 PM Jun 2015

California Announces Restrictions on Water Use by Farmers

Source: New York Times

LOS ANGELES — Farmers with rights to California water dating back to the Gold Rush will face sharp cutbacks, the first reduction in their water use since 1977, state officials announced Friday. State officials announced that rights dating to 1903 would be restricted, but said such restrictions will grow as the summer months go on, with the state facing a prolonged drought that shows few signs of easing.

“Demand in our key rivers systems are outstripping supply,” said Caren Trgovcich, the State Water Resources Control Board’s chief deputy director. “Other cuts may be imminent.”

The cut impacts nearly 300 water right holders in the San Joaquin and Sacramento watersheds and delta whose claim to water came after 1903. State officials said that further curtailments are being considered weekly.

The restrictions could cause the widespread fallowing of cropland in areas that have so far been largely exempt from cutbacks. The impact of the cuts are likely to be felt far more broadly than they were in the 1970s, because the state now has more authority and ability to measure how water from the Sacramento-San Joaquin River Delta is used.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/13/us/california-announces-restrictions-on-water-use-by-farmers.html



In case you hit a paywall, here is another source: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/california-orders-large-water-cuts-farmers-31729089

I'm in Northern California, where we've been told to reduce our water usage by 25 percent or face fines.
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California Announces Restrictions on Water Use by Farmers (Original Post) alboe Jun 2015 OP
wow marym625 Jun 2015 #1
The City of Beverly Hills is under a mandatory 30% reduction in use . . . Journeyman Jun 2015 #3
I said I had heard and I didn't know marym625 Jun 2015 #7
I didn't take what you said as passing rumor alboe Jun 2015 #10
Thank you! marym625 Jun 2015 #11
No cigar - but close. forest444 Jun 2015 #14
Good. Farmers waste WAY more water than individuals. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #2
Big Agra farmers or just small farmers? nt valerief Jun 2015 #4
Some of each. jeff47 Jun 2015 #8
300 Farms itsrobert Jun 2015 #12
This is great news dreamnightwind Jun 2015 #5
Nestle needs to go alboe Jun 2015 #6
If I were looking for a place to spend the next 100 years, bvar22 Jun 2015 #9
And south of the Ohio River! valerief Jun 2015 #13
I hope to retire back to my native Ohio. nt awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #15
"wellp, now that the doctors used all the hospital's dressings on that hangnail, MisterP Jun 2015 #16

marym625

(17,997 posts)
1. wow
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 04:11 PM
Jun 2015

I have heard that Beverly Hills has no restrictions. Don't know if that's true or not. If so, then this really sucks.

Journeyman

(15,039 posts)
3. The City of Beverly Hills is under a mandatory 30% reduction in use . . .
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 04:22 PM
Jun 2015

Watering of plants and lawns is highly restricted, fines for non-compliance are in place, and the same general Level 2 Water Emergency regulations are in effect.

Here's an easily found link to read more:

http://beverlyhills.org/living/recyclingandconservation/water/faq/web.jsp

There are, of course, inherent problems involved with trying to force the wealthy to comply with restrictions, no matter how "mandatory" they may be, but to pass rumors that cities in the Southland are exempt from the rules is not helpful.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
7. I said I had heard and I didn't know
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 04:40 PM
Jun 2015

I don't live there. I know people that work in Beverly Hills and made the assumption based on what they see

Thank you for the correct information. I do appreciate it.

I don't consider saying "I don't know" as passing rumor.

alboe

(192 posts)
10. I didn't take what you said as passing rumor
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 04:45 PM
Jun 2015

I took it as just asking a question! And it got us information. Thank you!

forest444

(5,902 posts)
14. No cigar - but close.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:08 PM
Jun 2015

Because little San Juan Capistrano (of migrating Argentine Swallows fame), about an hour to the south, is actively trying to wiggle out of its water use restrictions as we speak.

http://www.circleofblue.org/waternews/2015/world/california-court-despite-drought-questions-popular-water-pricing-tool/

The article makes no mention of this; but I strongly suspect that the well-connected residents of the Hunt Club (an exclusive gated community known by many locals as the "C*nt Club", for obvious reasons) have an oar in this one.

For those not familiar, the Hunt Club is a very exclusive gated community east of downtown SJC, known almost as much for its Republican fundraisers as for its very extensive and lushly landscaped front lawns. Capistrano may roast, it's said, but nary an afternoon goes by in the Hunt Club without the staccato sound of high-flow sprinklers drenching lawn and driveway alike.

They are, as you can imagine, not about to sit by let their watering privileges by encroached by any namby-pamby lawmaker - least of all "that Commie-nist Governor Moonbeam!"

Qué será.

SunSeeker

(51,712 posts)
2. Good. Farmers waste WAY more water than individuals.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 04:19 PM
Jun 2015

Time to stop planting water-intensive rice and alfalfa in arid California, where it was never meant to grow. The only reason those Pre-1903 water right holders maintain those crops is the artificially low price they pay for their water...just a tiny fraction of what the rest of us pay.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
8. Some of each.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 04:41 PM
Jun 2015

In some cases, the water rights are used by industrial farms. And in some cases they are used by "small" farmers, in that it is a family-owned farm instead of a large-corporation-owned farm.

Though those family farms are probably very big. These kinds of water rights are very important for running a large operation, so they're generally not used by what most people consider a "small" farm.

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
12. 300 Farms
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 04:47 PM
Jun 2015

So Big Agra if the restriction would have any impact. That's a lot of water for just 300 farms. They have to be huge.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
5. This is great news
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 04:32 PM
Jun 2015

I forget the exact %, but it was at least 80%, of California's water use is for ag, mostly big business irrigated ag and much of the product grown is for export. In a record drought, they should have been the first place to cut, not the last, they're taking California's water and profiting from it to export ag products while the residents are in dire straights.

Well, I guess the real first place to cut should have been Nestle, who bottles water, sells some of it back to Californians in bottles, and exports more of it, making huge profits while our water supply is depleted. About time we stood up to big business interests on this issue.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
9. If I were looking for a place to spend the next 100 years,
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 04:42 PM
Jun 2015

I would auto-eliminate everything West of the Mississippi River.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
13. And south of the Ohio River!
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 04:50 PM
Jun 2015


(BTW, I'm obviously not referring to the SANE people south of the Ohio. I just wish there were MORE of them.)

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
16. "wellp, now that the doctors used all the hospital's dressings on that hangnail,
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 10:15 PM
Jun 2015

now they can address the mangled, gushing stumps that used to be your arms and legs"

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