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kpete

(71,994 posts)
Thu May 3, 2012, 05:56 PM May 2012

Anti-Tank Grenades Found At Ariz. Neo-Nazi Massacre Site

Source: Talking Points Memo

Six anti-tank grenades designed to be fired from a launcher were discovered on Wednesday at the scene of a horrific Arizona mass murder-suicide, which authorities said was carried out by well known white supremacist JT Ready.

The discovery helped expand the probe of the killings to the federal level and has led investigators with the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to begin looking into how Ready was able to obtain the illegal explosives, according to ATF special agent Tom Mangan.

Mangan described the bombs as 40mm armor-piercing projectile grenades, the same type used by the U.S. military in combat. The grenades are generally fired from some sort of launcher, but Mangan said no such weapon was found at the scene.

Ready was a longtime neo-Nazi and border vigilante who authorities said walked into a house in a suburb east of Phoenix on Wednesday and killed four people, including his girlfriend and a 15-month-old baby, before turning the gun on himself.

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is it terrorism yet?
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Anti-Tank Grenades Found At Ariz. Neo-Nazi Massacre Site (Original Post) kpete May 2012 OP
Ah...that explains the task force, last nite. Wait Wut May 2012 #1
Good question, that. Ready will be replaced by someone more stable. patrice May 2012 #2
video dated IamK May 2012 #3
in the parlance of the younger generation, that's a "noob tube" Blue_Tires May 2012 #5
could have been Mk19 rounds too, they pack more punch and have a much longer range pasto76 May 2012 #8
people like to watch that stuff on the History and Discovery channel these day may3rd May 2012 #21
How long before some NRA stooge insists: "You know, if the girlfriend had had a grenade launcher, Aristus May 2012 #4
Yawn. AtheistCrusader May 2012 #7
An indefinite period of time 4th law of robotics May 2012 #10
I should hope not, but we'll see whose knee jerks on that comment. freshwest May 2012 #11
How many of these squirrels will it take before AZ wakes up Warpy May 2012 #6
no, i dont think this is terrorism yet pasto76 May 2012 #9
Come to ARIZONA! AlbertCat May 2012 #12
If JT Ready really wanted to go "All-White" usrname May 2012 #13
guess how neo-nazis vote? fascisthunter May 2012 #14
re: Anti-Tank Grenades Found At Ariz. Neo-Nazi Massacre Site allan01 May 2012 #15
Wonder why the FBI or ATF wasn't on to this? WHEN CRABS ROAR May 2012 #16
Are you sad this guy didn't expand his killing field ? may3rd May 2012 #20
Again, if guns weren't legal, only criminals would have guns. JDPriestly May 2012 #17
Yes he was a criminal in the first place hack89 May 2012 #22
Doesn't his friend Arpaio have a tank? ChairmanAgnostic May 2012 #18
they eat their own in New Jonestown may3rd May 2012 #19

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
1. Ah...that explains the task force, last nite.
Thu May 3, 2012, 06:04 PM
May 2012

I couldn't figue out why they were there. Anti-tank grenades and he was running for sheriff...awesome. This guy was more than a coward and a nut...he was damned dangerous.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
2. Good question, that. Ready will be replaced by someone more stable.
Thu May 3, 2012, 06:06 PM
May 2012

I wonder if anyone on our side knows who that is.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
5. in the parlance of the younger generation, that's a "noob tube"
Thu May 3, 2012, 06:12 PM
May 2012

Last edited Fri May 4, 2012, 10:15 AM - Edit history (1)

of course when I use it, it's a "pro pipe"

pasto76

(1,589 posts)
8. could have been Mk19 rounds too, they pack more punch and have a much longer range
Thu May 3, 2012, 06:22 PM
May 2012

or some other manner of foreign round.

 

may3rd

(593 posts)
21. people like to watch that stuff on the History and Discovery channel these day
Fri May 4, 2012, 09:41 AM
May 2012

And it's all up to date and basic yankee inginuity;

&feature=fvsr

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
4. How long before some NRA stooge insists: "You know, if the girlfriend had had a grenade launcher,
Thu May 3, 2012, 06:09 PM
May 2012

she might still be alive...:

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
7. Yawn.
Thu May 3, 2012, 06:21 PM
May 2012

Strawman only exists in your head.

Pretty good bet this pinhead lacked any permit or background check that would have allowed him to possess a destructive device. I say Destructive Device, because these are not classified as firearms protected under the 2nd amendment. Explosives are regulated differently, and the courts have not yet found any 'right' to possess them under the 2nd amendment.

This is not an NRA/ish type issue.

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
6. How many of these squirrels will it take before AZ wakes up
Thu May 3, 2012, 06:19 PM
May 2012

to the fact that enabling this shit is dangerous? How many more will it take to get them to stop voting these shitballs into office? How many will it take for AZ local news to stop glorifying them?

Hey, AZ! Look next door to see what sanity looks like!

pasto76

(1,589 posts)
9. no, i dont think this is terrorism yet
Thu May 3, 2012, 06:26 PM
May 2012

I dont think any part of this is. Havent there always been nutjobs that have black market munitions squirreled away? I think so. I mean I basically assume if you have that FFL that allows you to own/sell automatic weapons, that you also have some secret illegal stash of "the good stuff" that you are saving for the race wars/commies/socialists/whatever


 

usrname

(398 posts)
13. If JT Ready really wanted to go "All-White"
Thu May 3, 2012, 07:04 PM
May 2012

I wonder why he chose Arizona, with its extensive and wide ranging hispanic and native american influence, as well as it's border with Mexico. Why didn't he start his base in Minnesota or Michigan. I hear the Upper Peninsula is rather rife with his sort, is that correct?

allan01

(1,950 posts)
15. re: Anti-Tank Grenades Found At Ariz. Neo-Nazi Massacre Site
Thu May 3, 2012, 09:09 PM
May 2012

gee id wish the word neo would be dropped in front of nazi ( i know what neo means ,new . so what is the difference between new nazi and or old nazi, the same old arian brother hood nonsense. if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck , its a duck in my book )

WHEN CRABS ROAR

(3,813 posts)
16. Wonder why the FBI or ATF wasn't on to this?
Thu May 3, 2012, 09:40 PM
May 2012

Oh that's right, it wasn't a set up sting operation against some poor unknown dupe.
Just about some well-known Nazi.
My my, I wonder how he could of acquired illegal weapons, such a surprise.
I guess we better start looking in to this.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
17. Again, if guns weren't legal, only criminals would have guns.
Thu May 3, 2012, 09:59 PM
May 2012

Isn't that what they claim?

Was this guy a criminal in the first place?

Or did he decide to become a criminal because he had a gun?

Would he have killed this many people at once if he hadn't had a gun?

hack89

(39,171 posts)
22. Yes he was a criminal in the first place
Fri May 4, 2012, 10:02 AM
May 2012

owning those grenades was against the law - they are explosive devices and are very tightly regulated.

If he was willing to ignore that law, why is it hard to believe he would ignore any gun law?

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