Obama scolds heckler: 'You're in my house'
Source: AP
President Barack Obama took on a heckler head-on at a gay pride month reception at the White House Wednesday, scolding the protester for being disrespectful in "my house."
The heckler had interrupted Obama's remarks by protesting the detention and deportation of gay, lesbian and transgender immigrants.
The president responded, "Hold on a second." When the heckler persisted, Obama, flashing an exasperated look, countered, "OK, you know what?" Wagging his finger and shaking his head, Obama said, "No, no, no, no, no," repeating the word more than a dozen times.
As the heckler continued to talk over him, Obama took it up a notch.
Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/obama-undeniable-shift-attitudes-gay-marriage-220424658--politics.html
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Aristus
(66,467 posts)So climb down...
frylock
(34,825 posts)Aristus
(66,467 posts)In the White House, it's helpful to maintain a civil demeanor.
24601
(3,963 posts)back?
I'm sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree with this administration, somehow you're not patriotic. We need to stand up and say we're Americans, and we have the right to debate and disagree with any administration.
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/90950-i-m-sick-and-tired-of-people-who-say-that-if
If we don't stand up for that sentiment, you really think anyone else will?
Doctor Who
(147 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)so I'll climb wherever I like
Aristus
(66,467 posts)And then begrudging that he's doing it on our dime.
Whew! There are websites where that attitude is expected; certainly encouraged.
This is not one of those websites.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)sarge43
(28,945 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)The one does not deny the other, except to the biased mind.
think
(11,641 posts)(59 seconds in)
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgii84_sen-obama-the-white-house-will-be-the-people-s-house_news
But I still feel it's rude and counterproductive to protest in the White House. JMO...
MADem
(135,425 posts)The house comes with the job.
If someone is having a party in their section 8 apartment that We, The People have arranged to be assigned to them, are you going to bust in and tell them that's not their house?
I mean, come on.
The heckler was out of line. She could have made her protest short and sweet--he even asked her to settle down--but she wanted to be tossed out, that was her goal.
How many times can you repeat the same demand? The rest of the attendees were pleased to see the back of her. The time and place were inappropriate, but that would have been forgiven if she'd just stopped--instead, her goal was to disrupt the proceedings and prevent the rest of the attendees from enjoying the ceremony. She wasn't more important than the rest of the group, so she had to go.
Psephos
(8,032 posts)kinda like with that free speech thing
closeupready
(29,503 posts)It's VERY similar to when Chris Chrispie wagged his finger at the unemployed grammar school teacher, "I'm tired of you people!! "
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)And similar to when FDR lampooned Bob McCormick (Chicago Tribune) in 1940 when he said "modified spelling is just you people getting lazy at your jobs" at press luncheon at the White House.
(Roosevelt's Secret War, J. Persico)
closeupready
(29,503 posts)that the people who are popularly elected to hold the highest public office are frequently from broken homes or humble origins, in contrast to royal houses in Europe or elsewhere in the Old World. So the notion of nobility is an afterthought stateside. (And yes, this is Adverb Day.)
Nonetheless, how hard would it be as president, in the face of a heckler, to simply bite your tongue, motion to security, and wait - then, order restored, continue with your prepared speech...?
I don't know. Maybe I'm splitting hairs. I like his GLBT record, and I like his persona.
Response to closeupready (Reply #4)
geek tragedy This message was self-deleted by its author.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)I assume probably his wife or relative. Scares the hell out of me.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)We, the majority, elected President Obama. Don't forget that haters
uppityperson
(115,681 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)I don't like the display of arrogance. But, I have a bias and sympathy for the issues the woman was raising. I have to admit that I might have been a little less put off if he had said that to some RWer.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)in his own residence!
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)as "Dick Cheney's house" when they told Al Gore to "get out"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1855645/posts
Igel
(35,359 posts)Or are you saying those who agree with Obama are wrong?
Or what really matters is who's saying what to whom in any specific instance, and real principle and morality involved is simply whether we approve of the person doing the rebuking or not? We decide what's right and wrong for everybody else because we are the Deciders?
Yeah. It's also hard to be green.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)The White House belongs to all the people. We just let the president live there.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)DemocraticWing
(1,290 posts)Obama should have listened to her, she was making really good points. His policies in regards to LGBTQ deportation are despicable, but we're being told to sit down and know our place. It's kind of sickening.
MADem
(135,425 posts)shut up. All of the people cheering OBAMA! OBAMA! while she was being removed are LGBT. It was a Pride Ceremony.
Her gripe was about deportations. No mas deportaciones/no more deportations. She made the point, she should have stopped. She didn't. The rest of the LGBT attendees weren't there to listen to HER, they were invited there to see, hear and meet the POTUS/VPOTUS. She was interfering with THEIR opportunity, which is why her removal resulted in cheers.
Watch the videos--she wanted to be removed, she was firing for effect.
Cha
(297,733 posts)Obama Appoints Transgender Attorney Shannon Minter To White House Commission
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/08/obama-transgender-lgbt-rights_n_7538008.html
Obama administration advocates for transgender people
1. Obama is the first chief executive to say "transgender" in a public speech.
2. Obama is the first to name transgender political appointees.
3. Obama is the first to prohibit job bias against transgender government workers.
4. The first federal civil rights protection for transgender people in U.S. history was a hate crime legislation signed in by Obama.
5. The executive branch has made it easier for transgender people to update their passports, obtain health insurance under the Affordable Care Act, get treatment at Veterans' Administration facilities, and seek access to public school restrooms and sports programs.
6. Obama is the only president to invite transgender children to participate in the annual Easter egg roll at the White House.
7. The Office of Personnel Management announced that government-contracted health insurers could start covering the cost of gender reassignment surgeries for federal employees, retirees, and their survivors, which ended a 40-year prohibition.
8. The Department of Health and Human Services reversed a policy that prevented Medicare from financing transgender healthcare services.
9. Obama plans to sign an executive order banning federal contractors from discriminating against employees on the basis of their sexual orientation or gender identity.
10. The U.S. Education Department extended Title IX, the law that bans gender discrimination in education, to protect transgender students, and President Obama backed that action.
These make up a large part of why Mara Keisling, executive director for the National Center for Transgender Equality said about Obama, "He has been the best president for transgender rights, and nobody else is in second place."
http://www.glaad.org/blog/obama-administration-advocates-transgender-people
24601
(3,963 posts)clearance.
NSA had a GLOBE Chapter long before anyone President Obama had a connection to the federal government.
Check page 12: https://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/newsletters/newsletter_oct_1999.pdf
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)most of the time I choose to give my opinion, camera crews, press, etc. You know where I'm going with that, he may literally reside there but it is more of a place of business but he has the nerve to say shame on somebody for raising an issue I imagine they have very little reach outside of who has the money. Shame on him for giving Saudi Arabia a $60 billion weapons package or selling weapons to Bahrain during a brutal crackdown of their protestors -- he shouldn't be doing that. Appreciate the straight forwardness of it though stomping on the little guy but I credit the direct-action poster raising awareness on an important issue. Obama at-the-very least could have addressed the concern but the arrogance was remarkable.
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was fortunate to be invited to the White House to listen to President Obama's speech recognizing the LGBTQ community and the progress being made. But while he spoke of 'trans women of color being targeted,' his administration holds LGBTQ and trans immigrants in detention. I spoke out because our issues and struggles can no longer be ignored.
Immigrant trans women are 12 times more likely to face discrimination because of our gender identity. If we add our immigration status to the equation, the discrimination increases. Transgender immigrants make up one out of every 500 people in detention, but we account for one out of five confirmed sexual abuse cases in ICE custody.
This isn't the first time this issue has been brought up by LGBTQ immigrant advocates, who argue that ICE which oversees the detention of unauthorized immigrants unnecessarily puts people in detention even after they show warning signs for abuse.
ICE claims its policies do a good job of catching and preventing the kind of sexual abuse Gutiérrez described. ICE uses an automated risk assessment tool that's supposed to detect when someone is at risk for sexual abuse, and the agency can then decide to limit any risk by choosing whether and how to put an immigrant in detention.
But ICE's policies don't appear to be very effective, as Vox's Dara Lind explained:
According to the records obtained by the Center for American Progress, in 81 of the 104 cases where an immigrant said he or she feared being put in detention because of sexual orientation or gender identity, ICE detained him or her anyway.
In almost two-thirds (64 percent) of the 104 cases, it appears the automated assessment didn't even make a recommendation. The records obtained by CAP show the result of the assessment as "Officer to Determine" which, according to a DHS Inspector General report about detention, means it's entirely left up to ICE officials to decide.
When ICE officials use their discretion, they tend to rule against the LGBTQ immigrant: In two-thirds of cases in which the evaluation made no recommendation, agents chose to put the immigrant in detention even though such circumstances should automatically warrant release, according to ICE. So the agency chooses to put LGBTQ immigrants who are disproportionately likely to face sexual abuse in detention even when it doesn't need to and, by its own standards, shouldn't.
http://www.vox.com/2015/6/25/8846541/obama-transgender-heckler-pride
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)If it's your house, you have every right then to walk in, use the toilet, sleep in the President's bed and walk around its halls without security. Right?
It's not your house. You don't live there. The President isn't some art exhibit who's on show for the whole country to gawk at. You can't walk into his bedroom as he and Michelle are sleeping and demand to watch because, dammit, it's your house. There's social cues with that house and going into it, attacking the President, is absolutely embarrassing.
I wonder if we'd feel just okay with this if it was a right-winger who started saying shit about the President? Probably not.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)Hecklers are like petulant children.
This agitator was rightly thrown out.