Bristol Palin Pregnant With Second Child: I Know This Will Be ''a Huge Disappointment''

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

Source: E!

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Bristol Palin will soon be a mother times two.

The 24-year-old daughter of Sarah Palin is pregnant with her second child, she announced in a blog post today.

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Palin welcomed her first child, Tripp Easton Mitchell Johnston, in December 2008 when she was just 18 years old. She was previously engaged twice to Tripp's father, Levi Johnston, although the two split for good in 2010.

"I know this has been, and will be, a huge disappointment to my family, to my close friends, and to many of you," she wrote in her blog post. "But please respect Tripp's and my privacy during this time. I do not want any lectures and I do not want any sympathy."

Read more: http://www.eonline.com/news/670640/bristol-palin-pregnant-with-second-child-i-know-this-will-be-a-huge-disappointment

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Abstinence-only education protecting our freedom and the sanctity of marriage for childbirth, youbetcha dontchaknow!

Will she put the drunken thong dress brawling on hold for 9 months?

[Botany]

1. "I do not want any lectures .... "

Didn't Bristol give lectures on abstinence and staying pure for $ @ one time?

And way to make this about her son Tripp too. "But please respect Tripp's and my privacy during this time."
aka By pointing out my hypocrisy you are attacking my son's privacy so don't say anything.

[SunSeeker]

11. LOL Yup.

[47of74]

42. Yeah, good luck with that Bristol.

When you sit in judgement of others don't be surprised to have it directed back at you when you trip up. And that's in the bible too.

“Do not judge, so that you may not be judged. For with the judgement you make you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck in your neighbour’s eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye? Or how can you say to your neighbour, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ while the log is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your neighbour’s[c] eye. (Matt 7:1-5)

[hollowdweller]

123. LET'S PLAY A GAME

OK, Imagine that one of Obama's daughters was the same age and in the same situation.

What would the comments after that story be like on the various news sites ?

[uppityperson]

2. Except for the hypocrisy, and that is huge, meh. But being the family it is

baby mama

[douggg]

17. OUCH!

The pain. The pain.

It hurts!

Good one!

[dhol82]

3. Well

Isn't that Special.

[Liberalagogo]

4. The Palins

are as hypocritical as the Duggars. What a surprise....not.

[brooklynite]

5. You'd think they'd have figured out what causes that by now...

..or maybe that she would.

[snooper2]

107. She got pregnant riding a tractor LOL

For once, you can actually enjoy the comments at fox news

I guess the repukes got nothing on this one LOL

Another favorite-

"Two Illegitimate Kids and Counting..."

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2015/06/25/bristol-palin-says-pregnant-for-second-time/?intcmp=features

[ChairmanAgnostic]

108. It's called a tractor?

That's a new one.

[elehhhhna]

126. lmao

[dhol82]

6. Oh, and yeah -

Who's the daddy? Anybody know? Will there be a TV special to announce his name?

[rocktivity]

34. Well, if the father wanted the baby (with or without publicity or marriage)

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I imagine that he wouldn't be ashamed to make his presence felt.

Which leaves Bristol either not wanting the father in her life; the father not wanting her in HIS life; or her not knowing who the father is...


rocktivity

[dhol82]

52. Isn't this really pathetic for the child?

[ncjustice80]

92. You would think that a family with that much money could afford an abortion. Yeesh n/t

[RobinA]

103. Either That

or the far cheaper...birth control.

[leftynyc]

89. I would guess the guy

she almost married on Memorial Day weekend. I'm assuming she wasn't cheating on him.

[Nihil]

104. That's probably how the father was chosen ...

New "Reality TV" show: Get a Palin Pregnant!

Now that is one gene pool that seriously needs to be drained before
the pollution spreads any further afield.

[snooper2]

105. Well, if it's not Dakota Meyer who she was supposed to marry last month...

It will make it all that much more juicy!

Oh, so you didn't get married because he found out you were sleeping around Bristol?





You put yourself in the spotlight you stupid grifter you get whats coming LOL- Maybe she can get paid doing condom commercials now

[ncjustice80]

115. She probably doesnt know lol

[SummerSnow]

133. Probably one of them Duggar fellas

[Glitterati]

7. So THIS is why the wedding was called off

She's pregnant with someone else's kid.

ROFL!

[Johnyawl]

25. No, the wedding was called off because...

...there was some discrepancies in Dakota Meyer's divorce from his previous wife. As in he didn't get one lol

But now we know why they tried to move the wedding up in the first place.

[Glitterati]

33. that was rumors

which Bristol denied strenously.

Nope, Meyer's walked away from a preggo Bristol.

[47of74]

49. Well I sense a DNA test is in this kid's future

Just to prove who performed the honors.

[Gothmog]

8. The poster child for GOP family values

[trueblue2007]

9. OMG

I can't call her what I'm thinking. Will prob get into trouble.


Why???? Why did she do it?

[arcane1]

10. It astounds me that these people are still considered "news"

Will we ever stop giving a damn?

[Bluenorthwest]

20. It's always good to note the extreme hypocrisy of bigoted creeps who have actually profited from

preaching to others about abstaining from sex. Also, and particularly when that individual is an example of what Republicans saw as one of America's finest families, representing all of their values and ideals.

[47of74]

75. Just think if it was the daughter of a prominent Democrat

Both Bristol and Sarah Palin as well the Republican horseshit machines would be falling over each other to sit in judgement of both the prominent Democrat in question as well as his or her family - especially the daughter. I'm not just talking about the President and his family, but really the families of not only prominent Democratic politicians but celebrities as well.

[3catwoman3]

80. They damn sure would be.

Especially if it were one of the Obama daughters.

[GOLGO 13]

12. Wait, so she's now pregnant for a 2nd time & still not married?

So it's 2 pregnancies by two different men? Do I have it right so far?

[calimary]

51. Yes. Sigh... I'm afraid so.

[Scarsdale]

77. #5?

She gave birth to Trig, but $carah needed him for her campaign. Then Tripp. DWTS, she was pregnant, then pregnant again with Joey Junker at Disneyland. So, this is at least #5. People are sayinng this is Junker's baby, but they broke up. $carah arranged the quickie marriage to Dakota Meyer, but obviously he can count, and realised there was no way he could be the daddy. For someone who does not work, buys houses and vehicles, she had better hope her mother's scam keeps working. Seems the entire family lives off SarahPac.

[ncjustice80]

93. 3 pregancies IIRC.

The first one had down syndrome, and they tried to claim it was her mother's.

[jtuck004]

13. Think this is ''a Huge Disappointment''? Wait until the day that kid realizes who "mom" is. n/t

[Metro135]

76. ROFL!

Not to mention "grandma"!

[Downwinder]

14. Trying to get all that welfare money?

[awoke_in_2003]

31. Welfare queen...

[SunSeeker]

15. All that money she spent on plastic surgery could have bought a lot of condoms.

Don't worry, Bristol. You won't get any sympathy from me.

[47of74]

50. Yep, she could've gotten them at Wally World.

Since she and her family are such big fans of Wally World she could've gone and got them from there.

http://www.walmart.com/search/?query=condoms


http://www.samsclub.com/sams/trojan-pleasure-pack-premium-latex-condoms-40-ct/prod4020002.ip?searchTerm=condoms

Hell, Wally world even offers a 144 pack in a fish bowl container;

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Durex-Condoms-144ct/19898630

[wolfie001]

16. If these was some Real Countrified 'Mericans.....

.....then Sarah would grab her shotgun, find that scared rabbit and demand a marriage.......lol

[PSPS]

18. Even though LBN is effectively unmoderated, this doesn't belong here.

[bigworld]

37. Unfortunately it does when you are the spokesperson for an abstenence organization

... and then have out of wedlock pregnancies twice.

[Jack Rabbit]

19. Good luck with the new child, Bristol

No politics. No snark. Just one human to another.

[pintobean]

36. +1

For me, that goes out to all single moms, regardless of their political views.

[FSogol]

45. +1. Agreed. n/t

[onehandle]

48. Yep.

And agreeing with Jack Rabbit's post is 100% all I have on the subject.

[LibDemAlways]

62. Although I completely disagree with their politics,

I am not on board with attacking her for being pregnant. That's her business, not mine.

[Kelvin Mace]

73. It is our business when she has been

collecting 5 figure speaking fees to lecture teens about abstinence, filling young people's head full of abject nonsense and lies. She and her vile mother have repeatedly injected themselves into other people's lives by attacking marriage equality and family planning services.

She CHOSE to judge other people according to her own morality, now she is judged according to that same "morality".

[ncjustice80]

94. She is a major rethuglican figure.

Until she renounces her politcal views and tries to undo the damage she has done, all bets are off.

[joshcryer]

91. She'll be fine with the $200k+ she made shilling abstinence programs.

[TexasBushwhacker]

127. Hopefully she hasn't spent it all

She's awfully young to have that kind of cash. Hopefully she'll get an IUD and go to college.

[TNNurse]

100. Do as I say not as I do

never turns out well. I generally have great compassion for single mothers, but this one.....not so much.

[drmeow]

21. Can we

tar and feather her and run her out of the country - PLEASE?

[MRDAWG]

22. Is this why Fox dropped Governor Quitter yesterday?

?

[jmowreader]

43. The timing is highly convenient

We got a word in English for that kind of convenient...it's called "suspicious."

[Shrike47]

23. I would not care if they weren't such damned hypocrites. Is she too stupid to use birth control?

[Bluenorthwest]

24. Bristol Palin, Apparent Fiance at RNC 2008

[douggg]

26. Says she's going to keep her "chin up"

Should have kept her legs down.

If only Sarah had taught her morals.

[Historic NY]

55. Or anatomy...

the again........would that be o-- l... or never mind.

[Dorian Gray]

125. Ugh

Just so much.....


UGH.

[durablend]

27. Clearly the right will somehow make this Obama's doing

That you can count on.

[d_b]

28. Third child

[rocktivity]

39. If you're referring to Trig Palin

He was born 4/18/08; Bristol had Trip 12/27/09. Trig's real mom is more likely an acquaintance of either son Track or hubby Todd.


rocktivity

[Freddie]

65. Trig really is Sarah's kid

Down Syndrome is far more common with a mom in her 40's, as Sarah was at the time

[kath]

81. "Far more common"with older women in NO way means that it doesn't happen with younger women. I know

Someone who had a Down synd. baby at age 25, and someone else who was around that age.

breast cancer is most common in older women. Yet my niece had a double mastectomy for it the week she turned 20.

[rocktivity]

82. There's plenty of reason to believe she faked the pregnancy

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The main reason being that if your water breaks a month early when you know the child you're carrying has Down Syndrome, you do NOT respond by making a speech and then spending the next twenty hours on airplanes...unless you're rooting for a miscarriage.

Sarah Palin on a trip to Texas two days before Trig was born

The Palins made a 'leisurely' 20-hour trip to Alaska instead of having the baby in Texas, where she says her waters broke.

The Mat Su Regional Medical Centre in Alaska has no record of a Trig Palin being born there.

It also also does not have facilities for a pre-natal intensive care unit which is vital for a child born with Downs Syndrome.

After Palin's speech in Texas, Todd Palin emailed three of his friends to say her speech 'kicked ass' but said nothing about the birth of their fifth child.

When Palin was asked three days after the birth about her waters breaking in Texas, as Todd had claimed, she looked confused and taken aback.

http://juneauempire.com/stories/030608/sta_254443377.shtml#.VYzD5abqJNc
http://kikoshouse.blogspot.com/2014/05/five-years-on-why-sarah-palin-birth.html
http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2011/06/13/the-divine-prescience-of-sarah-palin/


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[Aerows]

121. And you don't name a child

with Down's Syndrome "Tri-G" unless you are a scornful and awful human being.

[msanthrope]

96. Yeah..If he actually has Downs. FASD would explain a lot. nt

[Sunlei]

98. In my opinion, 2008 Trig is McCains child.

[Cracklin Charlie]

41. I think this will be #4 at least. n/t

[logosoco]

29. If she wants the child and it is a huge "disappointment" to her family and friends,

maybe she needs new family and friends.

And i hope with a second child she will understand the love a parent has for their child and change her attitude about her judgements of other mothers having babies without being married.

[MMTampa]

57. I agree...

A new family member should be a time of joy ... not disappointment. Consider the family... just saying.

[elehhhhna]

128. I find that apology sad and disturbing

A wanted child is a blessing, and not something to apologize for.

[Warpy]

30. The shame of it is that

she can't own it and say she's thrilled to be expecting another child.

My own crowd either did that or quietly went to Planned Parenthood. The rest of us supported them either way.

This is just one more illustration of why I'd rather see those people than be them, I don't care how much money they have.

[Demobrat]

58. The shame of it is that

quietly going to Planned Parenthood was never an option for Bristol. I feel sorry for the poor kid. No choice for her.

[leftynyc]

90. She's an adult

Of course she had a choice to go to PP.

[get the red out]

32. Nice way to greet a new person to the world

Wow, that attitude is very sad. It is a product of that right wing love of shame and hatred of all family planning.

[trueblue2007]

35. FROM A PERSON replying on her Twitter account

I.M. Important ‏@freelancewoman 43m43 minutes ago

.@BristolsBlog Dear Bristol Palin: Don't worry, Obamacare covers that! #PregnantViaAbstinence

[hamsterjill]

47. An awesome response indeed!

n/t

[CanonRay]

38. Please stop replicating that gene pool. Please.

for the sake of the planet and humanity.

[MADem]

40. The little bundle of joy will be thrilled to google this shit in his or her teen years~~!

Or should I say, the little bundle of "disappointment" that made life "tough?" What a selfish and tone-deaf buffoon. If she's planning on keeping the the kid, there's no need to make the kid feel like something that has ruined her life, or at a minimum must be "handled." Say "I'm happy to welcome the new arrival and appreciate privacy" or something on those lines.

She's quite simply a moron.

&quot I'm announcing this news a lot sooner than I ever expected due to the constant trolls who have nothing better to talk about!!!)," the former DWTS contestant began. "I wanted you guys to be the first to know that I am pregnant."
"Honestly, I've been trying my hardest to keep my chin up on this one," she continued. "At the end of the day there's nothing I can't do with God by my side, and I know I am fully capable of handling anything that is put in front of me with dignity and grace. Life moves on no matter what. So no matter how you feel, you get up, get dressed, show up, and never give up. When life gets tough, there is no other option but to get tougher."

Any time you see someone trotting out "HONESTLY" to start off a remark, odds are good they aren't being honest, even with themselves.

[catbyte]

53. "There's nothing I can't do with God on my side..."

Well, except practice ABSTINENCE.

[MADem]

54. Or, take back those shitty words that will make Kid Number Two feel unwanted! nt

[catbyte]

61. Seriously. That was the most depressing pregnancy announcement ever.

That poor kid. Can you imagine?

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

68. She doesn't know what tough is

She and momma have grifted their way to a comfortable life while the women and children they shit on struggle to buy groceries. Fuck that whole family.

[MADem]

69. I feel sorry for the -kid- to be born into that family....unwanted, a problem to be overcome,

something for which mama has to 'keep her chin up." Talk about getting the word before you even enter the world that you fucked up mama's life! That makes for a grand family dynamic.

I am not expressing any empathy for Bristol, my empathy is for that kid who will, one day, find out what his or her mom thought about the impending blessed event...

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

71. The funny thing is had her wedding gone off fine....

....they'd be splashed all over People and US Weekly bragging about how awesome their life and family are.

Sick people.

[MADem]

74. Maybe the baby daddy ain't the ex fee-yancy....????

Perhaps that's why the wedding was called off.

All we know about the father, so far, is that he's a mystery to us.

[raven mad]

44. What a horrendous way to refer to a potential child.

n/t

[hamsterjill]

46. Well, she may not want a lecture, but

She sure as hell needs one. A lecture about safe sex first and foremost, a lecture about behavior in general, and a very specific lecture on what it means to be an absolute hypocrite.

[MADem]

72. And another lesson about not saying nasty things about your kids to the media before they are even

born! She's told everybody that this pregnancy is a bummer, a disappointment, it sucks, and she has to keep her chin up.

Imagine how little Fauntleroy or Petunia Palin is going to feel when he or she googles that shit years from now? Mama didn't WANT me! No wonder I always get hand-me-downs!!!!

[kimbutgar]

56. In my family when I was growing up it was a major scandal to have a baby out of wedlock

But I guess if you are a christian right winger with a mean hateful mother it's OK to have a baby out of wedlock and then get pregnant again out of wedlock. Times sure have changed and if we attack the stupid person for her daughter's discretion we are cruel and anti American.

That said, doesn't this young woman know there is a thing called birth control? One pill a day would prevent an unwanted pregnancy. I knew this as an 18 year old in the 70's who went to Catholic school. Believe it or not the nuns brought it up to us with the caveat that it was "against the church's doctrine. (I sure loved those nuns!)

[BeyondGeography]

59. The Klondike Kardashians strike again

[RandySF]

60. I bet 'The Situation' is disappointed.

[marble falls]

63. Sooooo when are they holding a drunken brawl of a BBQ to celebrate?

[RandySF]

64. She thinks it's rough now? What would people be saying if she were black?

[Kelvin Mace]

66. Don't fret about the lectures,

ours are free of charge.

[douggg]

67. Not sure about the sequence of events here........

Bristol is pg with another man's baby and she tries to catch a Medal of Honor hero for a family trophy and it does not work?

Is that close?

[47of74]

70. Also maybe trying to get at his military benefits?

[Scarsdale]

79. Momma

The rumor was spread that the Palins wanted Dakota to sign over 65% of his speaking fees to Bristol once they married!! She really thinks she is something special. I think he discovered she was already pregnant, and bailed. Lucky for him.

[Hekate]

78. Honey, there's this thing called The Pill, and Planned Parenthood can help you with that. .....

My gods, it must really suck to be Sarah Palin's daughter.

[irisblue]

132. gonna be worse to be Bristols kid

I feel bad for the kid unborn.

[Blue_Tires]

83. Don't they teach Alaskans where babies come from?

[dembotoz]

88. With climate change storks can deliver there all year

[erpowers]

84. Marriage Would Not Surprise Me

It would not surprise me if she ended up marrying Dakota Meyers.

[Freddie]

117. If he's the father

Where's Jerry Springer when you need him?

[Tanuki]

85. For the baby's sake,

I hope Bristol can refrain from abusing alcohol for the duration of the pregnancy.

[ncjustice80]

95. Or she could just get an abortion...

[Aerows]

120. Barstool Palin

will no doubt have a difficult time with that one.

[Mz Pip]

86. I do not care about Bristol

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Or her lunatic family. What I find interesting is how she is held to a different standard by the right wing minions that yammer on about family values.

[classof56]

136. My exact sentiment.

Sad that they get all this attention. They're not worth the time and space.

[Beacool]

87. As I have said before about Clinton's accusers,

it is not the sin itself that is offensive. It's the hypocrisy of those who claim to be moral upstanding folks while committing worse sins than those they single out for their "immorality". There are no worse hypocrites than the "family values" crowd. Time after time they are caught falling down, and yet, they insist on trying to impose their fake values on others.

This girl spent a considerable amount of time speaking to young adults, urging them to be abstinent. She should have followed her own advice. Better yet, didn't she ever hear of the existence of birth control?

As for disappointing her family, she needn't worry about it. The bar is set very low in that family.

[Sunlei]

97. Does she know who the father is? or will they have to DNA test a line of men?

[GOLGO 13]

101. Well, her ex-fiance knows it's not his

Which explains why Dakota Meyer ran away as fast as he could from her

[Vinca]

99. This calls for a Bushism:

"Fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."

[JeffHead]

102. Screw as I say, Not as I screw.

Hows that abstinence only working out for ya Bristol?

[TexasBushwhacker]

106. Levi Johnston also knocked up another girl

He married her. He said they had been on vacation and forgot to bring condoms.

I just don't get it. I grew up in the 70's. Making that trip to Planned Parenthood for birth control was something everyone did. I didn't go until I was 19, but I didn't decide that I might have sex until then. But I did have formal, FACT BASED, sex education AT CHURCH! A Unitarian church.

We can't rely on parents to educate their children about sex, contraception and disease control. Just because you have a baby doesn't mean you know all the FACTS.

If churches want to encourage abstinence, they need to get real and acknowledge that some young people will become sexually active. In fact "promise" kids are just as likely to have sex as other kids.

Think about how we educate kids about alcohol. We tell him don't drink. But, we tell the if they do drink, DON'T DRIVE. We tell them not to get in a car with a drunk driver. It's called Harm Reduction. We owe it to our children to educate them this way about sex, alcohol and drugs.

[phylny]

112. I learned everything I needed to know about

birth control, STDs, etc. in our health class. One of the many good things about growing up in New York State in the 60s and 70s. I never, ever had an unplanned pregnancy (and I got pregnant at the drop of a hat, so to speak, way back then).

I made sure our daughters were equally as educated.

[eppur_se_muova]

109. Disappointment? No, this is pretty much as anticipated. nt

[Third Doctor]

110. This is the type of

hypocritical shit I can't stand about the far right. Its ok for Palin to look down their noses and preach to other people but it's different for herself. Do as I say and not as I do. The people that follow Palin are worse.

[Myrina]

111. Unwed, unemployed, uneducated, 2nd baby-daddy & not at all enthused about it ....

Gee, Bristol ... you're part of that demographic your mother's political party loves to demonize.

[question everything]

113. Dear Bristol, instead of teaching abstinence, how about teaching birth control? (nt)

[Roland99]

114. Disappointment? Only to the attention seeking whores in that family

to anyone else? Who the f cares? Live your life and enjoy it and stop judging others from your holier-than-thou perch and maybe then you'll actually start to enjoy life!

[47of74]

116. I think this is a better show

[Aerows]

118. A lot of speculation

and circumstantial evidence that this is pregnancy #3. Trig being hers instead of Sarah's.

Note that they named the child Tri-G and the boy has Down's Syndrome.

She's probably only saying all of this because Palin got tossed off of Fox.

[WestSeattle2]

119. Family of morons. Mama bear stumbled upon a gravy

train of even bigger morons, who are dumb enough to give these grifters cash. Were it not for that convenient turn of events, this family would be the backwoods, small time grifters they were before the name McCain came into their lexicon.

[Third Doctor]

131. Thats exactly it.

[24601]

122. Her body, her choice, period. Right? n/t

[Chan790]

130. Yes. n/t

[Nihil]

138. Or lack thereof ...

> Her body, her choice, period.

Two out of three ain't bad.

[tabasco]

129. What wonderful role models

for their disgusting right-wing fans.

[SummerSnow]

134. She'll be adding this baby to Obamacare,didn't her mom call it socialism ?

[prayin4rain]

135. She's a disappointment, but not for the reason she thinks. n/t

[Nac Mac Feegle]

137. It's too easy, so just don't do it

Although; I did find this on a Twitter feed:

Now, to be completely fair, having ONLY two kids by different fathers out of wedlock DOES sort of qualify as abstinence in Wasilla.
.

Stonekettle station

[yurbud]

139. that's a nice statement for that kid to stumble across the first time he googles himself.

[El Shaman]

140. Danged

camping trips will do it all the time!

[astral]

141. .

Hop on top, now, the bashing of a Palin is the civilised way of tarring and feathering or just coming to watch the show.

Can ANYBODY here claim to not have SELVES or family members or friends who have had unplanned pregnancies? Or, hell, maybe it was planned. The teen pregnancy rate in this country is through the roof, who are you all to judge a young lady for having a baby out of wedlock? I thought that went out of style with calling such babies bastard children.

The fact is, in THIS country, people who know where babies come from and have plenty of money and wherewithal to own their own bodies get pregnant anyways, all the time. If you look a little closer, (instead of gawking at Bristol) you may learn that young girls who are asked about birth control will confess that they could not speak up to their partner and say it will be used, this is not due to ignorance but to such a lack of self -esteem.

And yes, at least on THIS forum, if it were the President's daughter the reaction and attitude would be quite different. You Betcha.

Point and gawk at someone for being human, like the people posting here are so far above human.

Well, you do have your right to privacy to not disclose personal matters. You are here to be what you want, picking on those who have to just be what they are.

The viciousness disgusts me here. (puke and wipe).

[6000eliot]

142. Not disappointed in the least.

Also not surprised.