State Trooper Is Said to Shoot Surviving Prison Escapee

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: NY Times

MALONE, N.Y. — David Sweat, the surviving prison escapee on the run in northern New York, was shot by a state trooper on Sunday, according to a person briefed on the matter. His condition was unknown, the person said.

Another person, with knowledge of the matter, said that Mr. Sweat, 35, was alive and in custody.

The confrontation with Mr. Sweat, near the town of Constable, N.Y., came two days after a federal agent shot and killed the other escaped prisoner from a maximum-security prison in New York, Richard W. Matt. The agent shot Mr. Matt three times in the head with a semiautomatic weapon, according to results from an autopsy released on Sunday.

The number of officers searching for Mr. Sweat had increased to 1,300 on Sunday, according to the New York State Police, as aviation and K-9 units helped comb through a roughly 22-square-mile area around the towns of Malone and Duane.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/29/nyregion/escaped-prisoner-richard-matt-shot-three-times-in-the-head-autopsy-reveals.html

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This was a NY Times breaking.

[valerief]

1. Why is this shit national news? This is a local/regional news story, not national. nt

[Spatened]

3. Based on what?

There is absolutely national interest...

[mike dub]

23. Agreed

Here in North Carolina my wife and I have been talking about the "updates" about this.... The killing of the first escapee, the expanded footprint of the search area, etc. Definitely of national care and interest.
EOM

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

27. Obviously, been following closely.

[christx30]

4. Because a great deal of the nation

is interested in it?
I mean, I'm in Texas, but I'm been following it fairly closely.

[BumRushDaShow]

5. It was the fact that they escaped a maxium security prison

and were apparently near the Canadian Border (thus the CBP involvement). And guarantee when all is said and done, there will be some changes coming down the line at prisons like this, which was apparently the largest of its kind.

[valerief]

6. Okay, that makes sense, but all the danger-danger shit

drives me nuts. We're more threatened by cops than these murderers, as vile as they are. If the focus is on the prison failure, the stories s/b about the prison failures, not the damn escapees. I still say the escapee aspect is regional, not national.

[BumRushDaShow]

7. I live in Philly and it is all over the news here

...perhaps because PA borders NY state and at one time, they were looking for them near the northern PA border area. I think what factors in too was their previous crimes which probably caused a lot of concern among the trial witnesses, etc., while they were on the lam. Had their escape plan worked out, it would have been worse in terms of coverage (at least initially before the next dramatic story booted them out of the news cycle).

[valerief]

8. It's all just prole diversion. Our media provides us with anything but REAL news.

Must keep us stupid and addicted to violence, else we might stop hating each other.

[BumRushDaShow]

9. I have pretty much stopped watching TV but I will turn on the radio

and obviously read here (and I get "breaking news" alerts from news sites) to filter out the chaff from the wheat.

As a side note for their conundrum of what to report for distraction - despite their lust with "terra terra terra", they very much downplayed (in relative terms) the simultaneous purported "terrorist attacks" across Europe and the Middle-east last Friday. The incident that happened in France was at a company that is owned by a firm here in PA up in Allentown (about 40 miles north of Philly).

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

17. What real, national news would be non-diversion?

What is worthy of our attention?

[randys1]

51. Anything from Greg Palast...Like Jeb Bush throwing 90 thousand off the rolls for 2000

[Plucketeer]

21. C'mon,

would the media miss a chance to pour on the fear? KILLERS - ON THE LOOSE! Stay tuned to our commercial-laden outlet so's we can bring you first hand accounts of every worried citizen in upstate New York!

[valerief]

59. If they REALLY wanted to make us afraid, they'd just have to talk about

what our Congress wants to do to us.

[Plucketeer]

61. Yeah, but they can't do that.

Not without getting their choke chains yanked hard!

[snooper2]

44. is it okay now?

Want to talk about Bristol some?

[donnasgirl]

24. I live in upstate NY

And everyone here has been holding their breath, it's not very comfortable knowing there are 2 killers running loose and could break in at any moment, we are glad it's over.

[BeyondGeography]

28. I'm sure you would have been playing it cool in Malone the other day

[BumRushDaShow]

33. Not sure if you have followed any coverage of this

but the people in the little towns within and around the various search areas where the 2 had allegedly been "spotted", were subjected to checkpoints along the main roads through their towns, and were told to basically remain in their homes. I.e., very much an inconvenience for them.

These little Northern NY / Canadian border-area towns don't typically have the type of gestapo police forces as the larger towns/cities like NYC, Albany, Syracuse, Buffalo, etc. In fact, I expect in some places, they are using county/state police as "police".

[donnasgirl]

34. We live in a small community

And the police here are very good, they are our friends our neighbors and have a great relationship with the people in our town. I and my family refuse to paint with such a broad brush and condemn all the cops for the actions of a few, and yes everyone here was nervous knowing these two fine upstanding pillars of the community were loose and could commit another killing at any moment.

[DashOneBravo]

52. Same here.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

42. That's just a sick thing to say.

I'm not going to alert on you, I leave that to others. That sucks though.

[djg21]

46. Asshole comment.

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The NYSP wears grey uniforms, and notwithstanding the occasional bad apple, the law enforcement personnel I know, and the police officers in my family, are incredibly professional and take their jobs very seriously.

But I'm sure you'll be first to demand police attention when you or your family are in a car accident, or are victims of a crime, or have your stupid cat get stuck in a tree. You should be ashamed of yourself.

If being progressive means holding all law enforcement in disdain, I guess I am not a progressive any longer.

[ncjustice80]

49. Eric Garner. Michael Brown. Tamir Rice. Walter Scott.

Yeah, not a fan of the police. And neither should any progressive.

[elehhhhna]

54. bet you like judges though

Because wow are you being judgemental. Broad brush ya got there.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

41. Not when the escapees could have made it to other states - or accross the country.

Just the possibility of that makes it of interest to many people.

[bluedigger]

12. Compared to what?

There have been about a dozen stories posted in LBN on this fine June Sunday so far. You don't think this is as important as a dead cat in Japan or relocating some lions in Africa?

[TheCowsCameHome]

15. It's got all the ingredients of a cool caper gone bad.

[votesparks]

32. Because it gets eyeballs

and eyeballs and drive money, which is is the purpose of news organizations to earn.

[Historic NY]

2. Daily News reporting same it 2 hrs old...

Escaped inmate David Sweat has been shot and is in custody, a source told the Daily News Sunday.

The fugitive's capture, which could not be immediately confirmed by authorities, signaled a possible end to the 23-day manhunt.

The source said that Sweat was seriously wounded but still alive.

NBC now reporting

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/new-york-prison-escape/escaped-inmate-david-sweat-shot-malone-new-york-n383411

[Human101948]

10. They should nurse him back to health and then give him the death penalty...

Kind of amazing how a vicious, escaped killer survives a confrontation like this when a 12 year old with a bb gun is gunned down.

[Archae]

11. Considering how his cohort was shot and killed...

And the fact that a state trooper shot Sweat, I'd say he's damn lucky to still BE alive.

(And that could change, you know that.)

[oregonjen]

13. I'm sure a movie will be made, whether it's a movie of the week or major motion picture

[BumRushDaShow]

14. Made for cable... like on HBO or something. nt

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

16. Like the escape of Tyrion Lannister. nt

[brooklynite]

18. David Sweat in custody

[Plucketeer]

22. MAybe....

if he'd had the opportunity of a free college education. As it is - besides the murder he's convicted of - he's caused one hell of a tab for the manhunt.

[ncjustice80]

25. Wow they executed a man for escaping from prison.

SMDH

[Historic NY]

29. Escapee number two is alive number one decide he wouldn't drop his 20 ga shotgun

Deadly force is authorized for Escape in the first Degree in NYS, that is why number 2 was shot running away.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/06/28/who-is-jay-cook-shot-david-sweat/29441161/

[ncjustice80]

30. His family should sue.

Last I checked, you can't shoot someone for running away. Especially an unarmed man.

[Historic NY]

31. Won't happen....

Escape 1st allows then to shoot to kill.

[ncjustice80]

35. That is unconstitutional as hell.

MASSIVE 4th amendment violation. MASSIVE.

[GOLGO 13]

37. Your still wrong.

DPF is allowed in case of Escape 1st degree.

[Lurks Often]

38. Do you even bother to do any research before you post?

Shooting a fleeing felon is indeed Constituional: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_v._Garner

It took me all of 5 seconds to find that.

[ncjustice80]

48. It took me all of 5 seconds to read the entry...

"White examined the common law rule on this matter and its rationale. At common law, it was perfectly legitimate for law enforcement personnel to kill a fleeing felon. At the time when this rule was first created, most felonies were punishable by death, and the difference between felonies and misdemeanors was relatively large. In modern American law, neither of these circumstances existed. Furthermore, the common law rule developed at a time before modern firearms, and most law enforcement officers did not carry handguns. The context in which the common law rule evolved was no longer valid. White further noted that many jurisdictions had already done away with it, and that current research has shown that the use of deadly force contributes little to the deterrence of crime or the protection of the public.

On the basis of the facts found by the district court, Hymon had no reason to believe that Garner was armed or dangerous. The Court ordered the case remanded for a determination on the liability of the other defendants."

It was Constitutional PRIOR to Tennessee v Garner. SCOTUS found that deadly force is UNCONSTITUTIONAL in the use of apprehending an unarmed man.

Do you even read your own Wikipedia entry?

[Lurks Often]

55. You really don't the slightest idea of what you are talking about

"Law enforcement officers pursuing an unarmed suspect may use deadly force to prevent escape only if the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others."

A convicted murderer, facing life without possibility of parole fits the definition above.

[ncjustice80]

56. No, he doesn't. He doesn't have the means to commit a murder if he is unarmed.

Why do you support extra-judicial killings?

[Lurks Often]

57. Utter nonsense from you

People are murdered every year with just hands and fists.

This was a person who had already murdered someone, which is why he was in jail for the rest of his life in the first place, who escaped prison and ran from the police officer. This was a perfectly legal shooting and only those who have absolutely no clue about the law believe otherwise.

Numerous posters have explained how you are wrong on this.

[snooper2]

45. well, the one of the assholes is massive dead now

[djg21]

47. Sure it is.

Did you get your law degree in the back of a comic book?

[NaturalHigh]

39. Actually, it is perfectly legal to shoot an escaped state prisoner if he is about to get away.

[NaturalHigh]

40. It wasn't an execution. The dumbass wouldn't drop his weapon.

Escapee #2 is still alive.

[mainer]

43. While I'm glad he's captured, I'm disturbed he was shot in the back while running

away, unarmed.

Also, there's a photo of three officers posing beside the collapsed and injured man, as if they're hunters showing off their prize trophy.

[hack89]

50. We are talking about a very dangerous, desperate man

what if they let him go and he murders someone for their car a hour later? Don't you think he represented a real threat to anyone he came across?

[dbackjon]

53. Would you prefer he escape again

Maybe invite him over for tea?

[LanternWaste]

58. No doubt many people believe for one reason or another

No doubt many people believe for one reason or another, the only two options available are death or afternoon tea, denying for either the sake of a quick point or simply a lack of education the host of other valid possibilities which exist between the extremes.