President Obama overtime rule could raise wages for 5 million
Source: Politico
President Barack Obama will this week release a long-awaited overtime rule aimed at raising wages for 5 million people as soon as 2016, according to sources familiar with the plans.
The proposed rule will more than double the salary level under which virtually all workers qualify for overtime pay whenever they work more than 40 hours in any given week. That threshold, now $23,660, will rise to $50,440.
Obama will announce the proposed regulation formally on Thursday during a trip to La Crosse, Wisconsin, but details will begin to be released by the White House on Tuesday. Labor Secretary Tom Perez will hold a press call about the proposed rule Tuesday morning.
The regulation would be the most sweeping policy undertaken by the president to assist the middle class, and it would constitute the most ambitious intervention in the wage economy in at least a decade.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/obama-overtime-rule-wage-raise-119566.html
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TexasProgresive
(12,157 posts)Either they will raise his salary above the limit or pay him OT. This is a win-win
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)We work 80 hour weeks!
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)Would be nice if teachers got paid for all the hours they worked
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Plus it looks like he's setting up for the Democratic Party's nominee. Lord knows we need to keep the WH, one of many issues re: US Supreme Court.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)So our great leader is gonna put some fairness into overtime hours. THEN, he's gonna sign the TPP and it's compatriots into law - PROVIDED we establish funds to compensate ALL the workers in this country for all the jobs we anticipate losing!!! And overtime issues will be SO relevant on jobs that are gone! Or - or - or, jobs that foreign countries think offer unfair wage advantages and want to negate any advances in OT hours! What the HELL is wrong with this bullshit?
I'll tell you something. Right now - if Mitt was president - I couldn't yearn MORE for a change in the Oval Office than I already do.
Edit to add: This is like saying: Hey! We've got this delicious frosting for you. Better get some before the cake it goes on disappears.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)You really hit out of the ballpark with your version of the nonsensical DUer. I literally LOL'd. Good job.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)as policy-based criticism.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)it must be an easy task. When he puts a pen to the TPP, please enlighten me how this OT rectification compensates for the trick turned.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Right. How many have come home in body bags since then?
Hell, even I can pick low-hanging fruit. LOL..... especially when I'm confident we're gonna cut the tree down fairly soon! 
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Obama didn't say he'd end the illegal war(s) (plural) - he even ran on putting more troops into Afghanistan. Now you can question whether he ended the Iraqi conflict, but going by your point about body bags...
Since Obama declared the Iraq War over in 2011, there have been seven Americans killed in Iraq.
The first year he was in office, that was 149. A year before he took office, in 2008, it was 314, and over 900 in 2007.
In Afghanistan, since the wind down last year, there've been a total 58 total deaths the past two years. Only three this year.
One body is too many - but then, when a soldier dies in Germany, do we still blame FDR?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Response: "I hate Obama, he's as bad as Romney. Waaaahhh!"
Lol. That is some unintentionally funny stuff. Shows the utter lack of seriousness of folks with this mindset very well.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)Social issues mean fuck all in the face of economic doom, but on economic issues, this is a day late and a dollar short. No way he can assuage the damage done by passing the TPP by throwing the populists a bone with yet more lip service.
I voted for him twice, and he did a net good heretofore, but by pushing the TPP harder than he's ever pushed anything else, he's a shit in my book.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)who openly sneer at civil rights by saying trollish, shit like "social issues mean fuck all."
This is a concrete measure that will mean increased income for millions of working class people.
You do not care about those people just like you don't care about women and racial minorities. all that matters to your type is to act like you're sooo deep and more aware of the big picture.
In reality, everything you say is small, the product of a small way of thinking.
All you have is your hate. Kind of like that other group of angry white dudes who sneer at civil rights and hate Obama.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)Funny you should have a Bernie avatar. Ironic really.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Bernie cares about increasing wages for working Americans. Unlike you.
Bernie does not use the rhetoric of Ted Nugent to degrade President Obama. Unlike you.
Quite honestly, if I thought Bernie Sanders shared 1% of your political DNA, I'd volunteer to help defeat him, as people who sneer at civil rights need to be purged from the party with great ruthlessness.
Bernie Sanders has never and will never say ignorant shit like "social issues mean fuck all."
Decent people don't say that shit.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)I don't use glaringly obvious strawmen arguments....like you.
I care for increasing American wages: By opposing corporatism and corporate written trade deals
"Bernie does not use the rhetoric of Ted Nugent to degrade President Obama. Unlike you"
Swing and a miss. Nugent's a right wing tool for the PTB. Calling the president the corporatist is not even remotely similar. The strawman thing again..........
"Quite honestly, if I thought Bernie Sanders shared 1% of your political DNA, I'd volunteer to help defeat him"
You don't know shit about my political DNA, and your efforts to defeat him wouldn't add up to a pinch of bird shit.
"as people who sneer at civil rights need to be purged from the party with great ruthlessness"
More strawman horseshit. Now people who are angry at 3rd-way/corporatists who try to cover throwing the working class under the bus are pariahs that "sneer" at civil rights. It's classic Third-way triangulation. You arent purging anything. It's the Third-way types that'll be purged from the party by the likes of true populists like Senator Sanders.
You erect more strawment than a Kansas wheat farmer.
Put me on ignore, as well you may.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)That is entitled white dudespeak for "I don't care about the civil rights of women, African-Americans, or the GLBT Community."
You sneered at millions of working class Americans getting a raise through more just wages. That means nothing to you. I guess you already got yours.
No one who actually gives a fuck about the working class and the imbalance of economic opportunity in this country would sneer at that.
And you, just like Ted Nugent, refer to the President as "shit."
Ted Nugent is indeed a rightwing hateful asshole. You should be so proud to share a brain with him when it comes to President Obama.
You've shown your true colors. As someone else has noted, the fringe left hates Obama, the fringe right hates Obama, and it's getting harder and harder to tell the difference.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Your posts in this thread are captivating, magnificent. You are one Bernie supporter here that I would think Bernie Sanders would be damn proud to have on his team.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)inspirational.
We've shown respect towards the contemptible for far too long.
juajen
(8,515 posts)Being rude to fellow DUers is detrimental to our cause. It could also cause either of you to be alerted on. As a very elderly DUer, may I please just say, "Childen, play nice!"
Cha
(297,323 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)Said poster doles out sophistry by the truckload. Deliberately tap-dances and distorts: A true flame baiter. Then calling said poster on their own chicanery is called a "personal attack".
Wonderful.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)increase for 5 million working and middle class Americans.
While claiming to be progressive and populist.
That's very sophistrycated.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)Say the whole phrase, not just the one you use out of context to ( deliberately ) distort.
Social issues mean fuck all in the face of economic doom, and that's the damned ugly truth.
A catagorically pernicious trade agreement ( with republican allies! ) will harm the working class more than corporate manipulation of overtime laws ever did.
His move is a day late and a dollar short, and politically motivated. He knows it'll go nowhere thanks to corporate/GOP obstruction. I wonder how his erstwhile republican buddies will feel about the move?
It'll be like hacking 2 feet off the end of a blanket and then saying "I propose to sew on a 4 inch extension to the other end of the blanket. "Good cop/bad cop"
Think of the larger issue and the net effect, not "team player" loyalty to a man, or even a party
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)1. We are not facing 'economic doom' which isn't even a real concept, just a stupid phrase you came up with.
2. Even in bad economic times, CIVIL RIGHTS ARE STILL VITALLY IMPORTANT. There is NO DISAGREEMENT ABOUT THIS AMONGST PROGRESSIVES. NONE. So, your sneering at civil rights is still nothing more than that most commonly associated with overprivileged straight white guys who don't give a fuck about women, racial/ethinic minorities, or the GLBT community.
3. This has nothing to do with "corporate manipulation" this is an executive action changing regulations. And your attempt to minimize wage suppression as an important issue for workers indicates you haven't had to bust your ass for an hourly wage.
4. "His move is a day late and a dollar short, and politically motivated." Substance-free whining on your part combined with a content-free cliche. You are whining because the President is doing something right, so you have to fabricate "politically motivated" as an excuse to bellyache and pee your pants in response, rather than acknowledging "you know what, 5 million people getting a raise is a good thing." That you cannot bring yourself to even acknowledge that indicates you care about complaining and posturing, not real people and their daily lives. You find yourself arguing that it's irrelevant, and then claiming it should have been done a long time ago, and then dismissing it because you in your clairvoyant omniscience have declared his motives were impure, so the raise for 5 million people means nothing. Your "any excuse to whine in a storm" routine is that of a carnival barker, not an activist.
4. "He knows it'll go nowhere thanks to corporate/GOP obstruction." No, actually you are the only person making that idiotic claim. It's a regulatory action taken pursuant to explicitly granted authority. You will notice that no one in Congress is making any noise about stopping it.
5. This is not a thread about the fucking TPP (what, 10,000 aren't enough for you?). This is a thread about an unabashedly, unexpectedly pro-worker, pro-family, pro-economic justice action being taken by the President DESPITE CORPORATE LOBBYING AGAINST IT. And all you can do is projectile vomit up substance-free complaints, whines, accusations to attempt to make it seem like this is not a good thing, or it is not a bad thing.
Think of it as actually giving a fuck about the 5 million people who need that raise. Not trying to cynically and assholishly turn unambiguously righteous actions into an opportunity to engage in narcissistic, substance-free trolling.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)See, I too can throw around junk bullshit names.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)... the positive things that actually occurred.
And they demand to be taken seriously.
Cha
(297,323 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Or so I heard.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)
cstanleytech
(26,298 posts)cannot take any tax breaks or write offs if more than 30% of their workers earns less than $35,000 a year from their job.
dhill926
(16,346 posts)a shot across Walker's bow...
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)And doggone it. Just IMAGINE if he'd been able to find those "comfortable shoes" when Wisconsinites were occupying the state capitol. Alas - Nike couldn't seem to come to his aid right then.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Hope you're entertaining yourself.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)and I'd rather not share. 
Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)the recall? 
Much like the Chicago mayoral election, it sounds like the union bosses couldn't even count on their own members, and that certainly can't be blamed on Obama, but nice try.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)a lot of voters don't like recalls unless there's evidence of illegal conduct. People don't want a never-ending election season.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Walker won his recall challenge AFTER folks - reasonable Wisconsinites - had protested in great numbers in Madison. Remember? Remember them being arrested in the capitol building for singing?
I don't know what Obama's shoe size is, but I suspect it wasn't a matter of fit that worried him. More likely, it was a matter of unease when walking with organized labor. Gotta be a bit of inner conflict going on when walking with labor (which he never really has!) while wearing footwear paid for by corporate America.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)voted for Walker in the recall. I don't think "Obama's shoes" had anything to with it, in fact I think there would have been even more of a backlash, and that number would have gone up.
We saw this phenomenon repeated in Chicago. I have nothing against unions, but like the vast majority of Americans, I've never belonged to one, and therefore don't think of unions as infallible.
Rhiannon12866
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NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)This will make a positive difference in many lives.
brer cat
(24,578 posts)A significant plus for the middle class.
Stellar
(5,644 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)She works like a dog, often working 14-15 hours a day and just gets her sub-$40K salary.
Good idea from the POSUCS,
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)