Bundler Says Biden Is Planning a White House Bid

[DonViejo]

Source: PoliticalWire/WashTimes

Vice President Joseph Biden’s team “is putting out the word that he is leaning in favor of joining the presidential race next month,” the Washington Times reports.

Said Democratic bundler Jon Cooper: “They have given increasingly strong signals that Biden is going to throw his hat in the ring. I’m as confident as I can be that he will be entering the race.”

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Read more: http://politicalwire.com/2015/07/02/bundler-says-biden-is-planning-a-white-house-bid/

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Bonus Quote of the Day

“He’s the nicest person I think I’ve ever met in politics. He is as good a man as God has ever created.”

— Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), in an interview with the Huffington Post, on Vice President Joe Biden.

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http://p.feedblitz.com/r3.asp?l=106534196&f=17571&u=37190363&c=4974303

[AndreaCG]

1. This would make me rethink my support of Hillary

I love Joe. I know he's not perfect (some past votes) but he's authentic.

[FlatBaroque]

4. Joe will drain support from Hillary

and that help Sen. Sanders.

[ms liberty]

2. I'm for Bernie, but I would be happy to have Joe as our nominee!

He was my favorite in 08, and I've always liked him.

[Surya Gayatri]

3. GO JOE!

[marble falls]

5. devil's advocation:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/history_lesson/2008/08/the_write_stuff.html

Just putting it up.

[DonViejo]

6. If that's the only thing the Veep's enemies can come up with to smear him with,

he should have no problem running.

[marble falls]

9. Its only a smear if it not factual and true.

[DonViejo]

11. Oh, okay. Please forgive my misuse of the word smear. So, allow me to reword my comment...

if that's the only negative hit folks want to throw at the Veep, it's NOT gonna be a problem. Feel better now?

[marble falls]

14. It was negative enough the last time he ran that he withdrew. Its not about me.....

so cool down.

[Cha]

46. You do not need "to cool down".. you're doing just fine, Don!

[Kelvin Mace]

12. I am far more concerned with his

Hand in eviscerating consumer bankruptcy laws at the behest of the banksters.

[candelista]

26. From the article:

Biden's downfall began when his aides alerted him to a videotape of the British Labor Party leader Neil Kinnock, who had run unsuccessfully against Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. The tape showed Kinnock delivering a powerful speech about his rise from humble roots. Taken by the performance, Biden adapted it for his own stump speech. Biden, after all, was the son of a car salesman, a working-class kid made good. Kinnock's material fit with the story he was trying to sell.

Biden lifted Kinnock's precise turns of phrase and his sequences of ideas—a degree of plagiarism that would qualify any student for failure, if not expulsion from school. But the even greater sin was to borrow biographical facts from Kinnock that, although true about Kinnock, didn't apply to Biden. Unlike Kinnock, Biden wasn't the first person in his family history to attend college, as he asserted; nor were his ancestors coal miners, as he claimed when he used Kinnock's words. Once exposed, Biden's campaign team managed to come up with a great-grandfather who had been a mining engineer, but he hardly fit the candidate's description of one who "would come up [from the mines] after 12 hours and play football." At any rate, Biden had delivered his offending remarks with an introduction that clearly implied he had come up with them himself and that they pertained to his own life.

[Beauregard]

28. Here's the video showing Biden's borrowings from UK politician Neil Kinnock speech.

[LynneSin]

37. Or he could have done cocaine, gone awol and gotten a DUI

that didn't hurt Bush.

Just saying.

[oberliner]

7. Washington Times

That is a crazy right-wing source with zero credibility.

[DonViejo]

13. Agree. But please enjoy reading these articles....

Report: Joe Biden's sons urged him to run in 2016
By Nick Gass
6/29/15 6:22 AM EDT

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/beau-biden-push-joe-biden-running-2016-presidential-election-119524.html#ixzz3epd2hpL1

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Family a top concern as Biden weighs presidential bid
Nicole Gaudiano, USA TODAY 5:04 p.m. EDT June 26, 2015

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2015/06/26/biden-family-presidential-bid/29345873/

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Biden speculation mounts as sons said to have urged run
Published: June 29, 2015 8:28 a.m. ET

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/biden-speculation-mounts-as-sons-said-to-have-urged-run-2015-06-29

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Biden to make late summer decision on 2016
02/12/15 03:10 PM—UPDATED 02/18/15 05:46 PM

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/biden-urges-2016-democrats-continue-obamas-legacy

[oberliner]

16. None of these articles say he is "planning a White House bid"

In fact they seem to suggest the opposite (i.e. that he has considered it but probably won't do it).

[Divernan]

18. Exactly. Does this mean any links from the Washington Times are OK?

Recently an HRC supporter cited Free Republic in debating me. When challenged on that she basically said, well I just cited the first link that popped up on Google. But I've seen a number of alerts sustained when people were alerted on for citing sources far more obscure than Free Republic & which turned out were within 2 or 3 degrees of separation from some dastardly conservative commentator. "Well this blogger's step-brother was college roommates with (fill in some uber-conservative)."

It's certainly luck-of-the-draw for the jury system, not just as to the factual content of a post, but as to the extended provenance of the link.

[oberliner]

27. Best to go to the original source

Washington Times and others of its ilk will often take a link here and a link there and try to spin their contents to mean something that they do not. This particular OP is not really an egregious example of that (in fact it's another source linking to the Washington Times), though seeing Washington Times results in a reaction from me to make sure people are aware of the fact that that seemingly innocuous sounding site is actually not quite so innocuous.

That being said, if Biden wants to run, I'm all for it - I think he'd be great.

[Beauregard]

34. See the video in post #28.

[oberliner]

35. The video is almost 30 years old

I don't really think it would/should be an issue at this point.

[Beauregard]

42. You asked for the original source. So I gave it to you.

I didn't say that it "should be an issue," although maybe it should be. Biden runs off at the mouth all the time. He's done it many times since. He is famous for it. I could produce plenty of examples, if you want an "issue." But you don't want that, do you?

[oberliner]

43. I meant the original source claiming that he is planning to run

Sorry about being unclear.

[MADem]

50. This bundler has been kvetching about Clinton for MONTHS now....

Google him. Apparently no one has kissed his ass sufficiently...or something.

He's a power-broker looking for a cause. I have a feeling many of his check donators have moved on without him. Historically he was an OBAMA bundler, not a Clinton one, so there's that little misstatement in the piece as well. The Clinton campaign reached out to him, but he has been playing the "Ewwww, I dunno" card since at least April, and the right wing media (Newsmax, Breitbart, the Moonie Times, etc.) keep recycling this story with a bit more spin. Same guy, same quotes, over and over again. How many times are they going to drag this same guy out and dust him off?

[loudsue]

8. He's been Biden his time.

[Kelvin Mace]

10. Consider the source

That said, this would REALLY piss off the HRC, possibly worse than 2008.

[EndElectoral]

15. Might hurt Sanders more as Biden is liked by unions, but the Obama record on unions is not good.

Biden might have a tough time defending TPP.

[NorthCarolina]

24. The unions are already lining up behind Sanders.

I don't foresee anything changing that in either the near, or the long-term. Thee union goal was the defeat of TPP fast track and ultimately TPP itself, and there is only one Democratic candidate speaking out against it, and actively working towards that goal. They are giving their support to that candidate, and rightly so.

[LynneSin]

38. I also say it's 1.5 years until the elections and things can say

And Unions do not vote for the nominee, the people do.

[24601]

17. I know it sounds counter-intuitive, but it think it would add pep to the race. My hesitancy

would be facing the demands of a campaign while grieving my son. But if that's the best therapy to help get up and face the day, then go for it Mr. Veep. I'm not promising my vote, but you're on the list to earn it.

[LynneSin]

19. I'm Ridin' with Biden!

[mainstreetonce]

20. I'm ridin with Biden

Go Joe!

[mountain grammy]

21. Run, Joe, run.

No Democrat has been as consistent as Bernie, even Joe, but he's strong and usually right. I love Joe Biden.

[TBF]

22. lol - the more the merrier

especially if they are all corporate dems (and Biden is decidedly so with his banking connections) taking votes from each other.

Go Bernie Go!

[packman]

23. Too good for the job

Reminds me of Adlai Stevenson, Hubert Humphrey and Jimmy Carter. All good men, all - somehow - just too good for the job. I love Joe but ----.

[DonCoquixote]

25. honestly, it's late in the game

and considering the acrimony already in place because of Bernie Sanders, the Hillary crowd will get outright toxic if Biden gets in, making sure to cast themselves VERSUS Obama instead of with Obama, and making Obama choose between Biden or Hillary.

I smell BS.

However, I will tell you right now, I know damned well who made Obama evolve on LGBT issues, and who has been the one dragging him leftward, even as members of Biden's own party kept treating him like the drunk uncle who slept in the attic. Yeah, that uncle was the one who helped make sure Auntie Hillary did not send us to war In Syria, and who helped make sure that Truth was told.

Still, this party has a contingent that has wanted Hillary since 2007, and if they do not get her, they will say sexist till the cows come home, never mind the fact that Arabs killed include women, and that single mothers screwed over by "welfare reform" are women, and many who lost their jobs to outsourcing are women, and that many soldiers screwed over by war are women.

Do not get me wrong, I will indeed repeat the loyalty oath that I will vote for whoever the Democratic candidate is, period. I will also admit that if Hillary is actually sincere in her latest rhetoric, instead of trying to make a Diet Warren/Sanders flavor with saccharine, I will be enthused. If she picks a Krugman or Stiglitz as Treasury Secretary, I will get right on her bandwagon with actual enthusiasm. However, let's not pretend that we are in act one, we are already in act two, and if we try to start from the beginning, the people who already wrote the ending will riot.

[LynneSin]

39. Yes but the only reason he hasn't announced earlier was because of his son

His son was in and out of the hospital most of the early months of 2015 with Brain Cancer. So how does Joe Biden justify announcing his campaign back in April or May of 2015 while his son is dying? That would come across very callous. (His son died on May 31st of Brain Cancer).

So there is a very legitimate reason Joe hasn't jumped into the race until now. But it has been noted that Beau (the son that just passed away) did want his father to run for President. And if anyone could jump into the race late in the game and be competitive it would be the current VP which is Joe Biden.

[DonCoquixote]

40. That may be true

but sadly, this changes nothing. The war machines are geared for Hillary, and Biden entering the race would make it a clear Obama vs Hillary split, which would be like Gold to the GOP. Hillary has not really stopped campaigning since 2008, and it would take not only someone with tons of money, but someone who could exploit the idea of "first (blank) president."

[LynneSin]

51. So he should be punished because his son was dying?

that's kinda messed up?

I think with all the bickering going on between Clinton vs Sanders why not Biden? I do not the the other three are well known enough across the country to make any impact. Biden could jump in at any time and could be competitive because he is Obama's VP.

In the end the voters will decide so I hope Biden joins the race. He has every right to run in 2016!

[HFRN]

29. would put Obama in an awkward position

abstaining and failing to endorse his VP would be tantamount to a blackball

even by staying out of it, he's sucked into it


but in potus retirement, he'd rather not have to cross B & H either

[heaven05]

31. after retirement

of POTUS, I hope he say's to hell with B&H and pushes V.P. Biden or O'Malley.

[HFRN]

33. not easy to say 'to hell' with them

they will be a huge force in his world for the next couple of decades

[heaven05]

41. easy enough

when enough people start to realize, H&B represent some of the people all of the time, and some of the people none of the time or when it is only politically expedient. Yep will be an easy enough truth to spread. Still early yet.

[Cha]

47. No it won't. President Obama will not show support until the Dem Nomineee in the GE.

[heaven05]

30. that would be great

it would wipe smiles off a lot of the faces of the arrogant crowd around here. I'd love to see that. I truly, truly hope so. I trust Joe Biden with my future more than any candidate, except O'Malley, he's changed over the years and not just for political expediency either. Someone who touts something that happened in the 60's and totally ignores what's going on in the 21st century, is a sham.

[HFRN]

32. he could be the most electable

he has the strongest resume, VP and years in Senate already completely vetted

he doesn't have the strong negatives of H

he would appeal to Independents many of whom don't want to be pulled in *any* direction - a mild mannered competent non-idealogue president could have very great appeal in this race

a lot of people would find a lack of surprises appealing - I think a high percent of even republicans would say having him as president 'wouldn't be the end of the world', and he could undermine republican turnout, as it would be hard to rally the base 'We absolutely can't have this guy as President!!!!'

an undertone of political de-polarization would have massive appeal across the spectrum

[roamer65]

36. Run, Joe, RUN!

A sitting VP with experience cannot be ignored.

[mike_c]

44. generally speaking, I like Biden, but...

...like Clinton, he falls short of my most important standard. He voted to invade Iraq. The war against Iraq was a crime against humanity, a war of aggression. It's the main reason I think Clinton is unfit for office, and although Biden would make a better president than Clinton, IMO, I will never vote for him. I'm especially interested in candidates who voted NO to the IWR. Those who were not in Congress get a free pass, I suppose, but those who were and voted no showed exceptional principles and leadership.

[tabasco]

45. I respect your position

and pretty much agree.

[MADem]

48. Reverend Moon's WASHINGTON TIMES is reporting this?

I am still in "grain of salt" territory.

He'll make the conversation interesting, but he won't be my first choice.

[Sunlei]

49. Mrs. Clinton and Joe Biden could win as a team. If he really cares to run again but they both have

demonstrated incredible stamina for many, many years of hard work.