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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 03:21 PM Jul 2015

AFL-CIO Leader Tries To Quell Pro-Sanders Revolt

Source: Politico

The labor federation’s rules don’t allow its state and local leaders to endorse presidential candidates, Richard Trumka says as the Vermont senator surges.

By Brian Mahoney, 7/3/15 6:34 AM EDT



Richard Trumka has a message for state and local AFL-CIO leaders tempted to endorse Bernie Sanders: Don’t.

In a memo this week to state, central and area divisions of the labor federation, and obtained by POLITICO, the AFL-CIO chief reminded the groups that its bylaws don’t permit them to “endorse a presidential candidate” or “introduce, consider, debate, or pass resolutions or statements that indicate a preference for one candidate over another.” Even “‘personal’ statements” of candidate preference are verboten, Trumka said.

The memo comes amid signs of a growing split between national union leaders — mindful of the fact that Clinton remains the undisputed favorite for the nomination — and local officials and rank and file, who are increasingly drawn to the Democratic Party’s growing progressive wing, for whom Sanders is the latest standard-bearer.

The South Carolina and Vermont AFL-CIOs have passed resolutions supporting Sanders, and some local AFL-CIO leaders in Iowa want to introduce a resolution at their August convention backing the independent senator from Vermont. More than a thousand labor supporters, including several local AFL-CIO-affiliated leaders, have signed on to “Labor for Bernie,” a group calling on national union leaders to give Sanders a shot at an endorsement.





Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/afl-cio-endorsement-2016-democratic-primary-119701.html#ixzz3erFLJMnn

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AFL-CIO Leader Tries To Quell Pro-Sanders Revolt (Original Post) Purveyor Jul 2015 OP
Hah! cloudbase Jul 2015 #1
I'm in much the same position now.... mike_c Jul 2015 #10
Sadly, a classic case of Labor not acting in it's own self-interest. 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2015 #3
looks like it Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #20
"Change is coming. Get on board or get out of the way" SoapBox Jul 2015 #26
Change is coming. Get on board, or get out of the way. K+1! zentrum Jul 2015 #33
WTF? ibewlu606 Jul 2015 #4
Bushama? Good lord that's dumb. nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #5
NT ibewlu606 Jul 2015 #8
Maybe you're on the wrong site, genius... Blue_Tires Jul 2015 #31
Wow! ibewlu606 Jul 2015 #39
Still trying too hard, genius Blue_Tires Jul 2015 #45
You should edit that comment BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #12
That is no worse than Mother Jones or IWW leaders had to say about Gompers. Frankly, in jtuck004 Jul 2015 #23
Thanks! ibewlu606 Jul 2015 #24
Oh, jesus in a tote sack, I don't mean it was the right thing to say. I just mean you have jtuck004 Jul 2015 #32
I have yet to hear someone get mad when I yell about wall street whores. Truly. :D roguevalley Jul 2015 #35
I know. Kind of sad, actually. Many seem much more interested in American Idle. n/t jtuck004 Jul 2015 #36
! ibewlu606 Jul 2015 #38
You know, and I say this because I care, there are many brands of decaffeinated jtuck004 Jul 2015 #40
Btw - you should read this by Big Bill Haywood... jtuck004 Jul 2015 #41
more desperation from the corporate masters restorefreedom Jul 2015 #6
"he is fighting to preserve the status quo." -- yep. nt antigop Jul 2015 #25
Historically, national leadership has frequently been at odds with union locals RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #7
Fred Flintstone donnasgirl Jul 2015 #9
Trumka is correct, AFL-CIO endorsements are not autonomous nor driven by leadership Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #11
I'm surprised BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #13
That's a misunderstanding of what he is saying. AFL-CIO is not a Union it is an affililation of Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #14
No one is listening to you. murielm99 Jul 2015 #17
I'm a long time member of AFL-CIO affiliated Unions, this is not anti-Bernie in the least it is Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #19
You are right about politico. murielm99 Jul 2015 #21
On the other hand, they could walk away from you and go with someone who wants to jtuck004 Jul 2015 #15
Somebody obviously put the pressure on him.... NorthCarolina Jul 2015 #16
Who would do such a thing? Enthusiast Jul 2015 #27
Politico sucks. Here are the AFL-CIO Endorsement Process and timeline announced July 2014 Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #18
Trumka had better be careful. blackspade Jul 2015 #22
Mellow out, Mr. Trumka, just go with the flow Jack Rabbit Jul 2015 #28
Does Richard Trumka speak for all the AFL-CIO members? Thespian2 Jul 2015 #29
It's bad for Hillary to be linked to Trumka. He's seen as a sellout. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #30
I have no doubt that at the beginning of the primaries the unions are going to all back Clinton davidpdx Jul 2015 #42
The local unions are backing Bernie which is why Trumka's bloomers are in a wad. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #43
Bernie needs them too davidpdx Jul 2015 #46
True,....wonder if Trumka has been offered Secretary of Labor. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #47
That headline is clickbait. Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #34
Wait. What? Isn't this the same guy who personally made an endorsement back in 2008 ? 2banon Jul 2015 #37
afl-cio lsufan59 Jul 2015 #44

cloudbase

(5,520 posts)
1. Hah!
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 03:25 PM
Jul 2015

I spent ten years as a delegate to and three years as an executive board member of the Harris County (TX) Labor Council. We endorsed presidential candidates as well as state and local candidates without a word from the national.

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
10. I'm in much the same position now....
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 03:44 PM
Jul 2015

Gonna be an interesting conversation at this month's CLC meeting. One of our delegates is also the chair of the local Democratic Central Committee, too.

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

 

ibewlu606

(160 posts)
4. WTF?
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 03:29 PM
Jul 2015

"Dick" is the same idiot who endorsed Bushama 6 months early and look what that asshat did for organized labor. It's time for Dick to go! Working families need a labor leader who will endorse a candidate who cares about the middle-class, not support a Wall St. whore who only cares about the 1%.

 

ibewlu606

(160 posts)
8. NT
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 03:41 PM
Jul 2015

Expansion of warrantless wiretapping, drone strikes personally directed by him, murder of at least two American citizens without trial by jury, a complete failure to hold the financial industry to account for their crimes. If you can't see the similarities, you should reconsider who you call dumb.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
31. Maybe you're on the wrong site, genius...
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 06:27 PM
Jul 2015

If you want to blame Obama for everything and pretend he's never done anything for us, then you'll find precious little traction here...

Oh, and by the way, you're trying too hard...

 

ibewlu606

(160 posts)
39. Wow!
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 10:10 PM
Jul 2015

Why not be done with it and vote for Clinton for more "hope & change". And I used to think Teabaggers were willfully ignorant.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
12. You should edit that comment
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 04:02 PM
Jul 2015

That is a right wing sounding epithet and it has no place here. And I am openly critical of the president's policies that I do not agree with. But that is not necessary.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
23. That is no worse than Mother Jones or IWW leaders had to say about Gompers. Frankly, in
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 05:18 PM
Jul 2015

some of the autobiographies. they called him a lot worse for what they saw as similar behavior in his cozy relationships with bosses at the expense of workers. And for damn sure at the expense of people in the IWW.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
32. Oh, jesus in a tote sack, I don't mean it was the right thing to say. I just mean you have
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 06:34 PM
Jul 2015

a right to your opinion.

I think BrotherIvan had a point, however. Yelling about wall street whores, true or not, alienates people. It's tough to see how that plays into a philosophy of thinking people should gather in One Big Union.

But I don't think it required editing so much as a thought about what its purpose was. Maybe a little less vitriol and a little more thought, really, about how one might respond if they were a true believer who was working toward One Big Union.

But that may not be your wish, so I don't mean to presume.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
40. You know, and I say this because I care, there are many brands of decaffeinated
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 10:38 PM
Jul 2015

coffee that are just as tasty as the real thing.

bye.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
41. Btw - you should read this by Big Bill Haywood...
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 10:52 PM
Jul 2015
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1739856.The_Autobiography_of_Big_Bill_Haywood

When he died he was still trying to figure out what form the IWW should take, having rejected socialism and communism and capitalism - they were trying to find a new way, according to his words.

On the other hand, it sounds as if you think you may have it all figure out now. How fortunate for them. Good luck.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
6. more desperation from the corporate masters
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 03:39 PM
Jul 2015

i don't believe for a second this guy has the interests of the workers in mind. he is fighting to preserve the status quo.

which bernie's gonna rip into tiny little pieces

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
7. Historically, national leadership has frequently been at odds with union locals
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 03:40 PM
Jul 2015

The national union leadership likes to take credit for landmark strikes, for example, when the truth is that a number of historic actions (e.g. the Minneapolis Teamsters strike of 1934) were called in defiance of the national leadership.

donnasgirl

(656 posts)
9. Fred Flintstone
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 03:41 PM
Jul 2015

Does not speak for anyone we know, all over the Country people are waking up to the Political Machinery and are rejecting them in mass.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
11. Trumka is correct, AFL-CIO endorsements are not autonomous nor driven by leadership
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 03:51 PM
Jul 2015

An endorsement from AFL-CIO it triggered by endorsements coming from the affiliated Unions and the various AFL-CIO officials are supposed to wait for and honor those Unions and their memberships. AFL-CIO itself does not always endorse in Primaries and only does so when there is a clear choice among the various Unions which comprise AFL-CIO. There are rules every cycle and those rules do not allow AFL officials to endorse in advance of the Unions for whom they work.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
13. I'm surprised
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 04:04 PM
Jul 2015

After the TPP, one would think that unions wouldn't stick with conservatives. Guess "access" is more ipmortant than the jobs and wellbeing of its membership. I hope they defy him and replace him if necessary. Unions need to act now or they will be obliterated.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
14. That's a misunderstanding of what he is saying. AFL-CIO is not a Union it is an affililation of
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 04:09 PM
Jul 2015

Unions. Endorsements by AFL-CIO leadership and officials are supposed to be prompted only by voting membership, that is the officials at AFL-CIO are not supposed to endorse the membership is. The various affiliated Unions hold their own votes on endorsing as they see fit, and they endorse as they see fit. If a clear majority of affiliated Unions is supporting a single candidate, AFL-CIO can then endorse that candidate. Without a clear majority among the affiliates a 2/3 vote of the membership on endorsing a candidate is generally required, all of this is before the officials and leadership national or State can endorse.
It's not their job to endorse, it's the job of the affiliated Unions and the members of those Unions and this is a bit early in the process so that has not yet played out.

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
17. No one is listening to you.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 04:30 PM
Jul 2015

Many unions and other types of affiliations do not endorse before the primaries. Pressuring them to do so is wrong.

You are going to be swarmed by people who perceive this story as anti-Bernie. Good luck.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
19. I'm a long time member of AFL-CIO affiliated Unions, this is not anti-Bernie in the least it is
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 04:39 PM
Jul 2015

about protecting the voice of the membership by following the rules and the process. I posted links to the process and timeline which was in place a year ago.

I tell you who is anti-Bernie, that's Politico. And that's why they spin it this way with photo editorial as lurid as their copy.

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
21. You are right about politico.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 04:46 PM
Jul 2015

I am surprised anyone uses it as a source here on DU. It has always been suspect.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
15. On the other hand, they could walk away from you and go with someone who wants to
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 04:15 PM
Jul 2015

work with them, instead of the owner$.


Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
29. Does Richard Trumka speak for all the AFL-CIO members?
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 06:11 PM
Jul 2015

I hope not. Since Ray-gun, unions have lost their influence in national politics...from watching union leaders for years, I surmise that Trumka represents only the affluent members of the unions...

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
42. I have no doubt that at the beginning of the primaries the unions are going to all back Clinton
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 10:02 AM
Jul 2015

Should they? No. Are they smart enough to vote in their best interest? We'll see

All it will take is a meeting with Bill who will go in and give them the big speech and promise them the world if they endorse Hillary.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
46. Bernie needs them too
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:46 PM
Jul 2015

But my thinking is never underestimate the Clintons and what they have the power to do.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
34. That headline is clickbait.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 07:35 PM
Jul 2015

I guess they thought they had to dress up some pretty boring reports about paperwork to make it sound controversial.

Like Bluenorthwest said, this is the same process the Federation has had in place.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
37. Wait. What? Isn't this the same guy who personally made an endorsement back in 2008 ?
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 09:57 PM
Jul 2015

or am I mis-remembering?

Seems like I remember he was freshly elected as head of AFL-CIO during the 2008 POTUS campaign.

lsufan59

(22 posts)
44. afl-cio
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 04:26 PM
Jul 2015

I am a registered member of the international brother hood of teamsters and i back bernie because i feel the bern.

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