2 New Jersey teens accused of running down geese for video

[Omaha Steve]

Source: AP

WOODBRIDGE, N.J. (AP) — Two New Jersey teens are accused of luring a family of geese into the street so one boy could run them down with his SUV while the other videotaped it.

The New Jersey Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals says Woodbridge police have charged the 17-year-olds with animal abuse charges.

The SPCA says it was alerted to the abuse after the tape was posted on social media.

The group says at least one goose was found in the road. It says the SUV shown in the video was found in a high school parking lot and had feathers embedded in its grill.

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/fd709d374c2b4436bf2c6d6f71aeeafe/2-new-jersey-teens-accused-running-down-geese-video

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You all know me and animals...

[HassleCat]

1. Shit like this

People who are intentionally cruel to animals will be intentionally cruel to humans.

[hamsterjill]

3. Absolutely true and proven!

Psychology will back this up, and even the FBI has started to take animal crimes seriously.

I hope they throw the book at these perverts and they rot in jail. An absolutely senseless act.

[navarth]

2. sick fucks

What punishment could possibly fit this obscenity?

[hamsterjill]

4. Well, since you asked...

How about a road, an SUV, some handcuffs, some leg irons, a video camera, and well, you get my drift. Too bad it wouldn't be possible.

I hope these idiots face swift and severe justice to the fullest extent possible. There is NO redemption for a person who would do something absolutely stupid like this. Served no purpose other than sick entertainment, and there is something wrong with a human being who would take pleasure out of something like this.

[jtuck004]

7. Most serial murderers start with animals. This punishment isn't going to help their next victim. n/t

[hamsterjill]

8. Yes, I agree.

I posted up thread about the link between animal cruelty and the fact that it escalates.

I think you understand that if I had MY way, there wouldn't be an opportunity for a next victim.

Of course, however, there are laws that deal with animal cruelty and we must respect and obey those laws. So, my hope is that the laws will be used against these jerks to the fullest extent possible.

[jtuck004]

12. If we really wanted to stop this we would start with the parents, I suspect. n/t

[jwirr]

10. Not likely - NJ like bullies - look at their Chris Christie.

[jtuck004]

5. Soon all the old folks will be gone and we will be left with the promise of the new generation.

And leave all that hate behind us.

As long as no one teaches them what we know now.

[chernabog]

6. How many of those that are outraged

will still eat foie gras though?

[PeoViejo]

11. The rich will always eat Foi Gras

I think you're snarking the wrong crowd.

[ciaobaby]

13. So very sad

However, please note there are many PETA haters on this site so he may be "snarking" the right crowd !

[Major Nikon]

14. I do and will continue to do so

It's just a matter of being able to differentiate between this...



and this...

[chernabog]

16. That's a strange looking goose in that bottom picture.

You're a hypocrite if you are outraged from a kid running over geese and you still eat foie gras.

[Major Nikon]

19. Nonsense

[chernabog]

23. Eating Foie gras

now that is the true nonsense.

[Major Nikon]

24. Then don't eat it

But don't try to call someone else a hypocrite for doing so with zero evidence of animal abuse and expect not to get a bullshit call.

Just sayin'

[chernabog]

25. Kids run over goose...

goose dies.

You eat foie gras... goose dies.

You get mad at kids for killing goose, yet you also kill goose. - Definition of Hypocrisy / cognitive dissonance.

[Major Nikon]

27. So because I ate a hamburger for lunch...

means I could give a shit about someone beating a cow to death for shits and giggles.

Makes perfect sense.


Actually it sounds more like a disconnect from reality. YMMV.

[chernabog]

29. To me, there is no difference.

You eating a hamburger is for the pleasure of your tastebuds, that's it. In both situations, there is no need for the cow to die.

[Major Nikon]

30. Good for you

If you choose not to eat cow, more power to you, but I reject the completely ridiculous notion that someone who chooses a viable source of protein must not give a shit about animal cruelty.

[chernabog]

31. There is no such thing as humane slaughter.

Killing is cruel. There are plenty of viable protein sources besides animal.

[Major Nikon]

34. By that logic anyone who owns a cat is a proponent of animal cruelty

Doesn't pass the smell test with most people, YMMV.

[chernabog]

35. Not really

Cats are beings that require meat to live. It's the circle of life.

[Major Nikon]

38. Yeah, really

Nobody has to own a cat.

[chernabog]

39. So you are fine with

No cats being rescued and all of them being put to sleep?

[Major Nikon]

40. I'm not the one with the ethical dilemma

I'm perfectly fine with any omnivore or carnivore eating animal protein, including you or me.

It's pretty hard, if not impossible to go through life without causing the death of animals. Your living space displaces animal habitat as does pretty much everything you consume. It's also pretty much impossible to commercially produce food of any type without causing the death of animals. So whether you choose to admit it or not, you are responsible for the death of animals, often in very cruel manners like being shredded by industrialized processing methods. So I guess by your logic you are a hypocrite as well.

And BTW, PETA actually is perfectly fine with pretty much no cats being rescued and almost all of them being put to sleep, evidently to keep them from unethically eating other animals. So while still hypocrites by your logic, perhaps less so.

https://arr.va-vdacs.com/cgi-bin/Vdacs_search.cgi?link_select=facility&form=fac_select&fac_num=157&year=2014

[chernabog]

41. The point is to minimize harm.

You can't see that?

[Major Nikon]

42. No, that wasn't your point

Your point was that if one engages in any activity that indirectly causes the death of animals, one must be a hypocrite if they say they are against animal cruelty.

So by your own logic you are still a hypocrite also, just perhaps a bit less of one and even that is arguable because it would be a pretty good trick for you to prove you are going through life not indirectly causing the death of more animals simply because you choose not to get your protein from other animals. If the point actually was to "minimize harm" the only way you could actually prove you are doing that better than anyone else would be to commit suicide, which ironically could also be considered cruelty to an animal by your own definition.

[chernabog]

43. eating foie gras

directly causes the death of the animal.

[Major Nikon]

44. So does eating tofu

Do you really think any sort of industrialization results in zero animal deaths?

[chernabog]

45. Many less animals die

When you don't eat animal products.

[Major Nikon]

46. One still makes you a proponent of animal cruelty by your logic

And your blanket assertion is demonstrably false. The average person needs only 4 oz of meat per day to fulfill their protein requirements. One cow can provide enough protein for an average person for about 2 years. If you take the example of a grass fed cow, the number of other animals killed in its production is undoubtedly going to be less than for an equivalent amount of soy protein production where pests are eradicated and other animals are routinely shredded by farm machinery. So if you really want to "reduce harm", the smart thing to do would be to get all your protein from grass fed beef, but perhaps you sleep better at night not considering all those other animals even more cruelly slaughtered on your behalf. Then again there's also all those missed opportunities to express righteous indignation.

[chernabog]

47. You keep spouting myths

And do not give any sources for your claims.

[Major Nikon]

48. You stole my line!

[LanternWaste]

20. We do attempt to rationalize our biases in rather unimaginative ways...

We do attempt to rationalize our biases in rather unimaginative ways...

[Major Nikon]

22. There's no rationalization to it

All that's required is simply to reject the fallacious notion promoted by groups like PETA that equate humans to waterfowl and pretend there's no anatomical differences in order to illicit an emotional response which has no basis in reality.

[NickB79]

32. There is "humane" fois gras farming

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/jan/14/can-foie-gras-ever-be-ethical

At Patería de Sousa, there is no force-feeding, no cages; the fences on the 500-hectare farm are only there to keep predators out. There is such an abundance of food that the geese gorge themselves until the chemical change within their livers occurs naturally. Wild geese on their way from Africa to Scandinavia come down and mate with the domestic geese before flying on, passing on the genetic instinct for migration. The secret is that if geese think they’re about to begin a 3,000km trip north, they’ll store as much fat as they can. No gavage is necessary.

[chernabog]

33. Is a goose still killed?

ok.

[NickB79]

36. Yes it is.

Though, without the force-feeding aspect, it makes fois gras no more cruel than any other livestock farming practice. Hell, reading about that guy's farm, it sounds like one of the most humane farms I've ever heard of, and I grew up on a small family farm with free-range everything. But yes, in the end the geese do die and are butchered for human consumption.

[chernabog]

37. So how is killing humane?

[PeoViejo]

9. Another couple of bored rich kids.....

Self-entitled little perverts. Let them rot.

[cosmicone]

15. Future republicans making their bones .... n/t

[yellowcanine]

17. Kids who mistreat animals for sport grow up to be George W. Bush.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/08/03/41798/-Bush-Blew-Up-Frogs

[Sunlei]

21. good they charged them and the parents need to take the SUV away for a year.

[get the red out]

26. They are not human

These TEENS should cease to waste the air they breathe. Of course, nothing will come of this, not even a slap on the wrist of these psychopaths.

I can only hope they get into a situation with others like themselves and end up like these poor geese. Only THEY deserve it. Their parents also, since they put these brutal creatures into society. Parents of creatures like this should face stiff legal penalties for producing them.

[olddots]

28. I am not a vegan but I would have eaten these punks

if I saw them run over the geese . ( not really but its kind of on topic and will probably offend everyone )

[Liberal_in_LA]

49. glad they were arrested