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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,489 posts)
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 12:37 PM Jul 2015

Judge awards nearly $230,000 to woman who got 153 robocalls

Source: Associated Press

By Larry Neumeister, Associated Press
4 hours ago

NEW YORK (AP) -- It wasn't a robocall, but a federal judge left a message anyway for companies Tuesday when he awarded nearly $230,000 to a Texas woman, finding that a cable company crossed the line when it harassed her with 153 robocalls even after she complained about the wrong numbers.

U.S. District Judge Alvin Hellerstein in Manhattan ordered Time Warner Cable Inc. to make the $229,500 payment to Araceli King of Irving, Texas, citing the New York-based company's "particularly egregious" behavior as it violated the Telephone Consumer Protection Act of 1991. ... King sued last year, saying she had repeatedly asked the company to stop making the calls. ... Susan Leepson, a Time Warner spokeswoman, said the company is reviewing its options and determining how to proceed.

Hellerstein said he tripled the $1,500 penalty for each call because Time Warner's actions were "particularly egregious" since it continued making the calls even after King complained in a seven-minute phone conversation in October 2013 with a company representative that the calls to her phone were apparently meant for a customer she did not know. The judge noted that 74 of the calls were made after Time Warner received a copy of King's lawsuit in March 2014.

The company's "recurring theme" in its legal arguments was that it was an unwitting victim of an unpredictable federal law that was not intended to turn an innocuous call to a wrong number into large damages, the judge said.

Read more: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/judge-awards-nearly-230-000-003251647.html#



Granted, this is not as important as all the stock and computer brouhahas going on today, but there is some satisfaction to be had, albeit vicariously, in this.

Just to be clear, it wasn't "an innocuous call to a wrong number;" it was 153 calls to a wrong number. Also, I suspect the federal law was not all that "unpredictable."

Full disclosure: I own a few shares of Time Warner Cable, but if you think I have any sympathy for the company, guess again.
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Judge awards nearly $230,000 to woman who got 153 robocalls (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2015 OP
Good. I wish a judge would do the same to the power washing guy Lurks Often Jul 2015 #1
Yeah, I want the timeshare people to go down too. lark Jul 2015 #2
I had the same problem for years. Stevepol Jul 2015 #22
Write him, call him, tell him to stop. Then sue him. Shrike47 Jul 2015 #3
A written request to cease is important yes Person 2713 Jul 2015 #7
No one has been able to track him down Lurks Often Jul 2015 #10
Many call for Helen over here. Helen somebody er other, I gave her a last name I could remember as lonestarnot Jul 2015 #4
good! I hope they serve as an example Amishman Jul 2015 #5
Hell, I've gotten hundreds more than that from "Bridget," who wants to assure me that there's merrily Jul 2015 #6
"Bridget" or "Heather" Archae Jul 2015 #27
"Bridget" has had two other names over the years. I think the last one was Carmen. merrily Jul 2015 #28
Every few weeks I'd get calls that would ring every five minutes for hours on end. valerief Jul 2015 #8
If they don't pay can she cut off their cable? n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #9
I've been trying nomorobo Triana Jul 2015 #11
OMG Liberalagogo Jul 2015 #14
YVW. Triana Jul 2015 #15
It says it will not work on.... Hotler Jul 2015 #17
Pretty soon, no one will have traditional analog land lines thesquanderer Jul 2015 #19
"Unfurtunately, nomorobo is not available for traditional land line at this time" question everything Jul 2015 #24
This call blocker device does, and works well: greyl Jul 2015 #29
Probably your only option if you have a landline. n/t Triana Jul 2015 #30
I wish I had been able to contact T-Mobile about their calls csziggy Jul 2015 #12
For $230,000 The2ndWheel Jul 2015 #13
Was it the cable company calling her question everything Jul 2015 #16
Now...how do we stop the endless political calls. SoapBox Jul 2015 #18
The political calls are not something that can be stopped. truedelphi Jul 2015 #26
Thats $2000 per call. McCamy Taylor Jul 2015 #20
We got telephone-terrorized when we moved into our house in Germany DFW Jul 2015 #21
Damn, I got more than that just from Dish Network Ron Obvious Jul 2015 #23
K & R SunSeeker Jul 2015 #25

lark

(23,105 posts)
2. Yeah, I want the timeshare people to go down too.
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 12:43 PM
Jul 2015

Don't know why the f** they think I own a timeshare, but I've been getting these calls to help me sell my non-existent timeshare for years. I'll complain mightily and the calls will stop for awhile, but they always come back. Grrrrr.

Stevepol

(4,234 posts)
22. I had the same problem for years.
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 03:31 PM
Jul 2015

Somehow my telephone number was associated with some restaurant (non-existent I think since the address when I checked was almost certainly not a restaurant at least incurrent times). I got calls from all over the country for several years from small business loan companies, cash register companies, every conceivable company associated with small restaurants. I tried everything I could to get the calls to stop. I got on average I suppose 5 calls a week. After several years, I just CHANGED MY PHONE NUMBER.

This worked. I am not plagued with the calls but I pity the next person that gets my old phone number.

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
10. No one has been able to track him down
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 12:49 PM
Jul 2015

although I haven't gotten a call in a while. Maybe someone found him, sued him and he is hopefully broke now. If I'm really lucky he pulled his sovereign citizen shtick on a judge and is in jail on contempt charges.

I hate the telemarketing/fund raising industry.

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
4. Many call for Helen over here. Helen somebody er other, I gave her a last name I could remember as
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 12:45 PM
Jul 2015

her actual last name is odd, so yeah, Helen Black. She looks like hell in black too. Could a judge give me some dough for that?

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
5. good! I hope they serve as an example
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 12:45 PM
Jul 2015

When I got a new phone number I was harassed for months by the same companies seeking the person who had my number previously. Even after I explained repeatedly that I was not the person they were looking for, they kept calling almost daily. After seeing this, I wish I had recorded calls and kept records.

After six months the calls changed from companies to collection agencies. Amazingly the collection agencies got the idea after a call or two.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
6. Hell, I've gotten hundreds more than that from "Bridget," who wants to assure me that there's
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 12:45 PM
Jul 2015

nothing wrong with my credit card account, but she can lend me money to pay it off anyway and some guy from Microsoft" who wants to assure me that something is very wrong with my computer, but he can fix it if I allow him to take control of it. The guy form "Microsoft" is not a robo call, but he may as well be.

The credit card calls alone have been coming once every week day for about five years now.

Apparently, the NSA knows everything about our phone calls, except who makes these calls.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
28. "Bridget" has had two other names over the years. I think the last one was Carmen.
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 04:58 PM
Jul 2015

Don't remember the original name at all.

The FTC called it/her "Public Enemy No. 1." Yet, I don't think they do a thing to track down the perps.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
8. Every few weeks I'd get calls that would ring every five minutes for hours on end.
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 12:47 PM
Jul 2015

Can't remember what the caller id said, but I didn't answer them. Finally, I got someone at Verizon who told me to go online and check off a setting that said I didn't want sales calls from them. The harassing calls stopped. I suffered months and months of this (actually it stopped for a few months one year but then started up again).

Do people actually answer their phones anymore? I only do when I know who's calling. The marketing abuse that's been placed on us by harassing corporate personhoods is enough to drive us mad.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
11. I've been trying nomorobo
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 12:50 PM
Jul 2015
https://www.nomorobo.com/

So far, except for the India shits spoofing Caller ID, it's stopped robocalls to my phones.

Scammers from India like to spoof caller ID - you get a Caller ID of '1' or '6759' or some such. NEVER EVER answer such calls. You can't block them because they are not a "legitimate" number. Just don't pick up.
 

Liberalagogo

(1,770 posts)
14. OMG
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 01:42 PM
Jul 2015

THANK YOU!

Easy sign, worked perfectly and it's FREE!!!

My AT&T only let's me block 20 numbers and I've been having to cycle through them. Plus I have to call AT&T and have them block the 11 and 12 digit numbers, because you can't on the website, only 10 digit.

greyl

(22,990 posts)
29. This call blocker device does, and works well:
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 05:51 PM
Jul 2015
CPR Call Blocker V202 - Caller Display - 1200 Number Capacity

You can either hit the red button to block an incoming caller forever, or block entire ranges of numbers before they call. We're up to 44 blocked numbers since January(in addition to the max 30 of our Panasonic handsets).

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
12. I wish I had been able to contact T-Mobile about their calls
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 12:52 PM
Jul 2015

Maybe then I could have sued to get money from them. They kept calling my number dunning some customer of theirs with a name I did not know. The calls came two to three times a week for a couple of months - before we had caller ID so I couldn't screen my calls.

The problem was the ONLY way to contact T-Mobile and speak to a human was if you had a customer number. I've never done business with T-Mobile - and NEVER will - so I could not contact any human other than their local sales people who did not have a way to contact their billing department. There was no way to tell them that they were using an incorrect number for their collection calls.

After submitting a complaint with the Florida Consumer Services who tried to weasle out of any responsibility I finally got my complaint brought to the attention of T-Mobile. I got a letter of apology from their president and a promise they wouldn't call me again. Despite my request they did NOT promise to put in a way for a non-customer to let them know they had the wrong number for their collection calls.

The next week after I got the letter, I received a call from the T-Mobile Sales Department offering me a discount on their service. I told the nice lady that I had in my hand that letter from their president PROMISING that I would never get another call from T-Mobile and that she should add my number to their never-ever-ever call list. I haven't heard from T-Mobile since.

At $1500 per call, I could have picked up a few bucks - but I had never been able to tell them to stop calling me.

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
13. For $230,000
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 12:57 PM
Jul 2015

They can put me on a lot of lists I don't want to be on. They can call me 300 unwanted times. Hell, make it 600. That's still $380 per call. I won't complain about complaining. Well, I'll complain, obviously, but not, you know, complain complain. They can put me on hold for an hour, just to talk to a representative for another hour, only to not get it right. Which I will then call about again, and be put an hold for another hour.

Time on this planet is short, but that's a small price for $230,000.

question everything

(47,487 posts)
16. Was it the cable company calling her
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 01:45 PM
Jul 2015

or is her phone service provided by the cable company?

This is one reason why I don't "bundle" TV, Internet and phone service. The phone service is a stand alone.

And... in the evening, when everyone is at home we don't even answer up the call. Never anyone leaves a message. Actually, I think that in the evening there are solicitations for worthy causes, no doubt, still...

During the day, unless someone greets me personally, but instead starts with "Congratulations!" or "Hello Senior!" or "this is Tom from the shipping department" or "Carmen from credit cards.." I hang up after the first word.


SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
18. Now...how do we stop the endless political calls.
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 02:48 PM
Jul 2015

THAT makes us nuts! And the numbers are all different...some are robo and some are probably poor volunteers using cell phones.

Has anyone reregistered and not given a correct phone?

That's some more shit that I want stopped.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
26. The political calls are not something that can be stopped.
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 04:35 PM
Jul 2015

Political calls are exempt from the Do Not call registry.


I think you can leave the space where it asks for a phone number totally blank on your voter registration, but should you offer up your phone number, that number is at the County Registrar of Voters, then you will be called.

DFW

(54,405 posts)
21. We got telephone-terrorized when we moved into our house in Germany
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 03:01 PM
Jul 2015

We received between two and fifteen calls a day from cosmetic shops all around Europe because some huge perfume wholesaler was too lazy to send out a mass mailing to their customers that their ordering number (our new number, as we found out) was no longer valid. At all hours of the day and night, our private line was clogged with perfume retailers, mostly in Germany, but also in Italy and other places, looking to order this or that perfume from us. We sent the wholesaler constant requests that they send out the change to their customers. They couldn't be bothered.

So, we finally told everyone calling us for perfume that there was no such company as far as we knew, and certainly not at this number, and that no perfume could be ordered from us (I was complimented on my Italian, though). Finally, that did the trick. We got an angry call from the perfume wholesaler demanding we stop telling people they didn't exist as far as we knew. It was hurting their business and they were losing orders.

Boo hoo.

We told them we had never heard of them (true enough) except though this telephone terror we had been experiencing for the last year. We told them (again) that if they didn't send out a mass mailing/phone action, asking for acknowledgement of their new phone contact, that we would continue to tell people terrorizing us 10+ times a day that no such company existed at this number, and we had no idea if they were still in business. We told them that we had endured a year of nerve-wracking telephone terror, and they could be happy we didn't sue them when the calls had continued despite our plea for them to do something about it. They must have gotten the hint, because the calls soon stopped, and our phone eventually only rang with calls for us. If money was the only language they understood, well, I speak that, too.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
23. Damn, I got more than that just from Dish Network
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 03:42 PM
Jul 2015

They keep calling, emailing, sending letters saying they want us back.

Honestly, if this were a real relationship, I could have them charged with stalking.

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