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itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 05:22 PM Jul 2015

Florida Rep. Grayson to enter race for Sen. Rubio's seat

Source: Associated Press

A close friend and major Democratic Party donor says U.S. Rep. Alan Grayson is launching a campaign for the seat U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio is giving up.
Trial lawyer John Morgan said Wednesday that Grayson told him by email that he is running for Senate. Rubio is not seeking a second term because he's running for president. Grayson will announce his decision on Thursday.

Read more: http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/florida-rep-grayson-enter-race-sen-rubios-seat/nmtgM/

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Florida Rep. Grayson to enter race for Sen. Rubio's seat (Original Post) itsrobert Jul 2015 OP
Great news. Kingofalldems Jul 2015 #1
Wonderful news RobertEarl Jul 2015 #2
I think it would also help Bernie in the primaries too... cascadiance Jul 2015 #6
Yep. More Liberals mean more Liberals RobertEarl Jul 2015 #11
Presidential and Senate primaries are not at the same time brooklynite Jul 2015 #49
We'll need another good economic-minded Senator after Sanders becomes president. arcane1 Jul 2015 #3
That would make for some interesting Senate debates! Dont call me Shirley Jul 2015 #4
Yes, we need a 1% hedge fund manager in the Senate. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #5
Why is it? RobertEarl Jul 2015 #8
If he is innocent, he should get it taken cqre of Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #18
That's what hearings are for RobertEarl Jul 2015 #22
His name is on the Hedgefunds. He should handle the ethics problems before getting a new job. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #25
There's no "ethics problem" though. DirkGently Jul 2015 #32
If there is no problem then he should get it out in the open Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #33
What's not "in the open?" DirkGently Jul 2015 #35
There were two suits filed, not one naoya6161 Jul 2015 #36
So this Bush person is siding with the Republicans? DirkGently Jul 2015 #39
It looks like you've missed the point naoya6161 Jul 2015 #40
Wait. Murphy & the Republicans make the same bogus claim DirkGently Jul 2015 #42
They do naoya6161 Jul 2015 #44
It's real naoya6161 Jul 2015 #34
"Protecting" Social Security? DirkGently Jul 2015 #37
Based on... what regarding SS? naoya6161 Jul 2015 #38
Coordinating with Republicans, for starters. DirkGently Jul 2015 #41
That... Doesn't really prove anything naoya6161 Jul 2015 #43
Do you say the same thing about Bill Cosby? GGJohn Jul 2015 #21
Yes, I do. RobertEarl Jul 2015 #23
Then I salute you, you're one of the few here. GGJohn Jul 2015 #24
he pisses off corporatistas that otherwise love them some hedge fund managers yurbud Jul 2015 #51
He still wouldn't vote with the GOP as much as Patrick Murphy does. djean111 Jul 2015 #15
So it's finally happened huh? naoya6161 Jul 2015 #7
God, I hope he wins! Hulk Jul 2015 #9
I hope he wins! ananda Jul 2015 #10
Rec'd ibewlu606 Jul 2015 #12
we have our Trump. nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #13
watch Debbie Wasserman Schultz DonCoquixote Jul 2015 #14
He is my congressperson and I like him but I am afraid you may be Mojorabbit Jul 2015 #26
actually DWS and alan grayson are buds nashville_brook Jul 2015 #29
((((GRIN)))) fredamae Jul 2015 #16
Good luck to him. bigwillq Jul 2015 #17
Just curious. Why not? redstateblues Jul 2015 #30
I think he's a scumbag. bigwillq Jul 2015 #45
Great!!! nt valerief Jul 2015 #19
Winning will be very tough Reter Jul 2015 #20
Graysons carrying lots of unexplained baggage thats going to be a distraction... Historic NY Jul 2015 #27
Good, let's hope Rubio's lack of interest in showing up for work Warpy Jul 2015 #28
Rubio isn't running for his seat again naoya6161 Jul 2015 #31
He wanted to be the next Obama, I guess Warpy Jul 2015 #50
In the Senate, Grayson will surely be making things easier for Elizabeth Warren to get her projects Cal33 Jul 2015 #46
DU now has it's own fund raiser for Alan at Act Blue Omaha Steve Jul 2015 #47
Any Other Democratic Candidates Running For Rubio's Senate Seat? Corey_Baker08 Jul 2015 #48
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
2. Wonderful news
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 05:25 PM
Jul 2015

Grayson and Bernie on the same Florida ballot in 2016 will be a huge factor in turnout! Democrats will wipe the republicans off the stage!

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
6. I think it would also help Bernie in the primaries too...
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 05:40 PM
Jul 2015

If many of Grayson's followers around the state come out to vote for him, I think many of them would also be checking on Bernie's box for president as well given that they are on the same page on so many issues.

And Grayson would also be helped by many independents registering as Democrats to vote for Bernie too. A lot of them would probably vote for Grayson for senate nomination as well.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
8. Why is it?
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 05:52 PM
Jul 2015

That some of you are willing to call Grayson guilty before there is even a hearing?

I get that Grayson pisses off cons, but this guilty before trial stuff here on DU is weird, man, weird.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
32. There's no "ethics problem" though.
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 12:18 AM
Jul 2015

It's just Patrick Murphy's conservative friends panicking and frantically slinging mud. Anything to avoid talking about the fact Murphy is a recent ex-Republican who supported Mitt Romney and wants to work with his GOP buddies to cut Social Security.

Grayson's already up as much as 40 points in the polls, and he hasn't even announced.


DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
35. What's not "in the open?"
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 12:33 AM
Jul 2015

Murphy's people are inventing an issue where none exists. It's the same minor local DEC chair that tried to have the entire Progressive Caucus disbanded for supporting Grayson who filed it. She's been trolling the local Dem discussion forums heaving about how Grayson can't win because she doesn't like his personality for months now.

It's a joke, and a pretty tacky one at that. The only point was to create a headline in hopes of smearing Grayson personally, because he's a much stronger candidate than an ex-Republican no one's ever heard of.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
39. So this Bush person is siding with the Republicans?
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 12:52 AM
Jul 2015

... to help a recent ex-Republican, Patrick Murphy, who votes with Republicans more than any other Florida elected official?

This is why it sometimes seems like we've been infiltrated by Republicans. People say they're Democrats, but put up Republcan candidates and then coordinate attacks with Republicans on a nationally significant Democratic leader like Grayson?

Smells like a barrel of fish to me. But I understand why they're so panicked. Hard to sell a right-leaning Mitt Romney supporter to Democrats.

naoya6161

(147 posts)
40. It looks like you've missed the point
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 01:03 AM
Jul 2015

The first group that filed the complaint - they have absolutely nothing to do with Murphy at all.
And in any case... The Republicans actually want Grayson to win the nomination (Club for Growth in particular) so that their candidate can win. So this whole issue about Murphy being a former Republican (who has always run for office as a Democrat!) is completely invalid.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
42. Wait. Murphy & the Republicans make the same bogus claim
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 01:15 AM
Jul 2015

... at the same time, and Murphy just happens to be a recent ex-Republican who frequently votes with Republicans and who's working with them to "protect" Social Security.

And that's supposed to show Murphy is NOT on the Republicans' side?

Also, the idea the Republicans would rather Grayson be nominated than their ex-colleague and frequent ally Murphy seems wildly unlikely.


naoya6161

(147 posts)
44. They do
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 01:20 AM
Jul 2015

Back in May the Club for Growth aired a TV ad praising Grayson for his stance on the Ex-Im bank while criticizing Murphy. It's obvious that they want Grayson to win the nomination... So it's true.

naoya6161

(147 posts)
34. It's real
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 12:25 AM
Jul 2015

You know, I recall that one of the two groups that filed that was a Republican leaning group.
Murphy's also come out in support of Social Security as well during the campaign.
Also, if Murphy really is such great friends with the GOP...then why is the Club for Growth actively cheering on Grayson as a candidate?
And the poll you mentioned, Gravis Marketing, doesn't have a good reputation. Last year it was completely off the mark with Texas and Kentucky primaries.
Grayson's hedge funds are relevant to his candidacy, whether you want to believe it or not.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
37. "Protecting" Social Security?
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 12:42 AM
Jul 2015

Republicans' idea of "protecting" Social Security is cutting Social Security. Murphy keeps fudging about how he'll keep "current" beneficiaries benefits in place.

And I've got to say I'm not impressed with Murphy's supporters. There's that grumpy local DEC chair woman who wanted to disband the Progressive Caucus just for supporting Grayson -- I think she's the same one who filed that half-baked "ethics complaint." Cheap tactics, in my opinion.

It's Bush league stuff, and it just makes the party look bad.

I think Grayson is going to wipe the floor with Murphy, but primaries are good for everyone, eh?

naoya6161

(147 posts)
38. Based on... what regarding SS?
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 12:51 AM
Jul 2015

If it's that whole New Democrat Caucus, or whatever it's called, I haven't seen any concrete evidence for that.
Also, one supporter doesn't speak for all. Quite a few Murphy supporters are decent people. And in any case, it's not as though Grayson's remarks have done him much favor with the public now have they? He actually lost an endorsement to Murphy the other day for his ethics problem.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
41. Coordinating with Republicans, for starters.
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 01:06 AM
Jul 2015

Republicans have one attitude toward SS -- cuts. They have no other interest or intentions whatsoever. They still tell that Wall Street lie about it causing a crushing "deficit" that will destroy the world or whatever. It kills them a Socialist program is the most-loved thing our government has ever done.

Murphy made a big deal about how was going for a "bi-partisan" approach to "get our fiscal house in order." (Hint hint)

He promised only current beneficiaries and veterans would get no cuts, clearly leaving out everyone else. Classic weasel wording. He's backpedaled to the rather vague "protecting" SS language now. Republicans of course famously claim cutting SS will "protect it."

Grayson's with Warren -- he wants to expand both Social Security and Medicare. He has some kind of pledge letter on the issue. Don't think Murphy or his Republican collaborators have signed it.

Wonder why?

naoya6161

(147 posts)
43. That... Doesn't really prove anything
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 01:15 AM
Jul 2015

Words should always be taken in context. It seems based on what you're telling me that these are your interpretations of Murphy's statements. I'll believe it when i hear it in the proper context.
And what letter are you talking about?

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
24. Then I salute you, you're one of the few here.
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 11:49 PM
Jul 2015

I'm not comparing the two cases, I'm just saying that both are innocent until proven guilty as far as our justice system is concerned.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
15. He still wouldn't vote with the GOP as much as Patrick Murphy does.
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 06:39 PM
Jul 2015

Grayson will have my vote, for sure.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
9. God, I hope he wins!
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 05:55 PM
Jul 2015

Wish we had someone not so controversial. I love what Grayson has brought out regarding the hypocrisy of the repuKKKes...but I'm just thinking he has a LOT of enemies...and it's going to take a lot, even to beat a worthless light weight like rubio. I just hate to see us lose a seat we should win.

 

ibewlu606

(160 posts)
12. Rec'd
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 06:03 PM
Jul 2015

The corporate Dems are already sharpening the long knives to go after Grayson. Alan has ALWAYS been a friend to our local and has even gone so far as to introduce legislation on our behalf. I will wait to see how the charges play out, but from what I know of the man he seems like a straight shooter.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
45. I think he's a scumbag.
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 07:44 AM
Jul 2015

Most politicians are, but that doesn't mean I have to vote for them.

Go count your money in the Cayman, Alan.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
20. Winning will be very tough
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 09:43 PM
Jul 2015

Florida isn't exactly blue. And Grayson is deep blue. Being controversial doesn't help either. Wish him the best, though.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
27. Graysons carrying lots of unexplained baggage thats going to be a distraction...
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 11:54 PM
Jul 2015

but by all means he should proceed it going to be a primary.

Warpy

(111,270 posts)
28. Good, let's hope Rubio's lack of interest in showing up for work
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 11:58 PM
Jul 2015

becomes an issue of that campaign.

Even right wingers don't like being robbed by some guy collecting a fat salary for nothing.

Warpy

(111,270 posts)
50. He wanted to be the next Obama, I guess
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 02:30 PM
Jul 2015

and use one term in the Senate as a stepping stone to the presidency.

The little weenie just didn't realize that he also had to do the hard work Obama did. He thought just the title would do it for him.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
46. In the Senate, Grayson will surely be making things easier for Elizabeth Warren to get her projects
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 08:27 AM
Jul 2015

through.

Omaha Steve

(99,659 posts)
47. DU now has it's own fund raiser for Alan at Act Blue
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 10:14 AM
Jul 2015

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Corey_Baker08

(2,157 posts)
48. Any Other Democratic Candidates Running For Rubio's Senate Seat?
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 01:13 PM
Jul 2015

While I very much respect Congressmen Grayson & I wholeheartedly support his Liberal policies I am very concerned that the events that have been the subject of endless "news anchors" concerning his personal life & his marriage problems.

Also Congressmen Grayson has an ongoing ethics investigation for his role in managing a hedge fund.

Okay so I have voiced my concerns. Please feel free to rebut them, because I truly like Congressmen Grayson, I honestly do.

However even with his hundreds of millions of dollars, at the end of the day can he beat his Republican Opponent?

I HONESTLY HOPE HE CAN & WILL!!!

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