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IDemo

(16,926 posts)
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 06:48 AM Jul 2015

Mozilla blocks all Flash in Firefox after third zero-day

Source: Computerworld

Mozilla on Monday began blocking all versions of Adobe Flash Player from running automatically in its Firefox browser, reacting to news of even more zero-day vulnerabilities unearthed in a massive document cache pilfered from the Italian Hacking Team surveillance firm.

Computerworld confirmed that the current production versions of Firefox -- dubbed v. 39 -- on both Windows and OS X now block Flash.

Mozilla engineers swung into action over the weekend after reports surfaced late Friday of another Flash zero-day -- the term that describes a flaw for which there is yet no fix, or patch -- discovered in the gigabytes of data and documents stolen from the Hacking Team. At the time, the bug was the second in Flash spotted in just five days.

Since then a third Flash zero-day has cropped up.

Read more: http://www.computerworld.com/article/2947898/security/mozilla-blocks-all-flash-in-firefox-after-third-zero-day.html

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Mozilla blocks all Flash in Firefox after third zero-day (Original Post) IDemo Jul 2015 OP
Have had to override it several times already. Being almost 100% sure of site in question. Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #1
So, what do we do, uninstall Flash totally? Paper Roses Jul 2015 #2
Mozilla gives you the option to override the block if you're 100% sure of the video and site. Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #3
I actually just today installed the new version of flash. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #4
Flash will probably have it patched in a day or two. joshcryer Jul 2015 #17
So THAT's what's going on - thanks for posting! eom LiberalElite Jul 2015 #5
Same here. Good to know why. Thx DU! n/t ffr Jul 2015 #27
I use Firefox and have been wondering what in the world was going on. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2015 #6
I'm running Linux Ex Lurker Jul 2015 #7
What flavor? elias49 Jul 2015 #10
Mint 17.1 Ex Lurker Jul 2015 #14
Are you using Cinnamon? PersonNumber503602 Jul 2015 #34
Yes, Cinammon Ex Lurker Jul 2015 #36
Flash's security record on Linux is atrocious Recursion Jul 2015 #12
Seems that Italian firm "Hacking Team" has some high profile clients for it's spyware. Snarkoleptic Jul 2015 #8
yes, NSA 'hacks' to gather all their info about people. It must be easy for clever criminals Sunlei Jul 2015 #13
This "Hacking Team" story is as big as the NSA files. joshcryer Jul 2015 #16
Just noticed this today. romanic Jul 2015 #9
anyone think this hack will work easy on cell phones, especially texts or twitter where people Sunlei Jul 2015 #11
Now I know why it's been doing that. bigwillq Jul 2015 #15
had a crash earlier and had to quit flash player, firefox LittleGirl Jul 2015 #18
They've had problems for months SmittynMo Jul 2015 #19
There was a sports related forum that I loved to visit but they were heavy on Flash advertising. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2015 #20
Macs are sold without Flash installed. onehandle Jul 2015 #21
And when you get the BBC and many premium video streaming sites to agree whatthehey Jul 2015 #24
I've avoided Flash for years. I simply don't install it. hunter Jul 2015 #22
I was wondering about that yesterday as well. Xyzse Jul 2015 #23
Good. Please block all Shockwave Ghost Dog Jul 2015 #25
Is this a problem only for Firefox. I use Chrome a whe I tried to nd snagglepuss Jul 2015 #26
Yes, IE and Chrome use there own Flash plug-ins ffr Jul 2015 #28
I was wondering what this was all about! n/t PasadenaTrudy Jul 2015 #29
I never use Mozilla anymore. lindysalsagal Jul 2015 #30
I had a blocked video a short while ago, with a message about an out of date plug in.. Gloria Jul 2015 #31
There's finally a patch Firefox won't block. undiegrinder Jul 2015 #32
Hi undiegrinder! Just have to tell you that your sigline is hysterical. I loved those guys. Mnemosyne Jul 2015 #33
Thank you! Sounds like you might enjoy its source ... undiegrinder Jul 2015 #37
I'm kind of glad. Maybe this will be final nail in flash's coffin PersonNumber503602 Jul 2015 #35

Paper Roses

(7,473 posts)
2. So, what do we do, uninstall Flash totally?
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 06:55 AM
Jul 2015

Sunday I uninstalled the old version and installed the current. Now another problem. Should we remove it altogether until the problem is resolved? Since I'm computer dumb, what will happen without Flash?

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
4. I actually just today installed the new version of flash.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:03 AM
Jul 2015

It had been nagging me to update for a month or two.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
17. Flash will probably have it patched in a day or two.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 08:18 AM
Jul 2015

And Firefox might remove the warning then.

Until then you'll just have to tell it to allow until the patch comes out and just keep checking the Adobe site for the patch.

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
10. What flavor?
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:47 AM
Jul 2015

I had a dual boot box around 10 years ago and ran Red Hat for a while. Then Slackware. But I found that I couldn't get all the software I wished for and so went back to Windows on my desktop and have A MacBook Air for travelling.

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)
34. Are you using Cinnamon?
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 10:18 AM
Jul 2015

You could always put Cinnamon on a ubuntu system. But unless you already had a ubuntu system that you didn't want to trash, I don't see why anyone would want to do that.

Ex Lurker

(3,813 posts)
36. Yes, Cinammon
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 10:26 AM
Jul 2015

One thing I do like about Ubuntu is the rolling upgrades, which make upgrading to a new version very easy. Upgrading Mint is a bit of a pain.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
12. Flash's security record on Linux is atrocious
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:54 AM
Jul 2015

The Pepper library that comes with Chrome is somewhat better.

Personally I'm on OpenBSD and very happy that web pages no longer animate...

Snarkoleptic

(5,997 posts)
8. Seems that Italian firm "Hacking Team" has some high profile clients for it's spyware.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:36 AM
Jul 2015
http://anonhq.com/leaked-documents-show-fbi-dea-army-can-control-your-computer/

Leaked emails from an Italian-based hacking company reveal that government agencies engage in surveillance more invasive than previously thought, spending millions of dollars on spyware and malware software to accomplish their questionable goals. Tellingly, their use of the product places them squarely in the same category as other repressive regimes around the world.

After hackers ironically hacked Hacking Team, a Milan-based company that sells strictly to governments, hundreds of gigabytes of emails and financial records were leaked. The emails show that the FBI, DEA, and U.S. Army all purchased software that enables them to view suspects’ photos, emails, listen to and record their conversations, and activate the cameras on their computers, among other things.

While this may seem like old news, the most controversial revelation was the government’s purchases of “Remote Control Systems.” The FBI, DEA, and U.S. Army, courtesy of Hacking Team, possess the capability to take control of a suspect’s computer screen. The technology is so invasive that even the DEA, known for its violative surveillance policies, had reservations about purchasing it.

According to documents obtained by The Intercept, an internal request to purchase RCS was denied by DEA management in 2011 because it was “too controversial.” By 2012, however, the DEA had resolved its concerns, likely spending a similar amount to the $773,226.64 (plus thousands in maintenance fees) the FBI invested in its own set of software.


Nice to see the DEA had "resolved its concerns". My BS meter is off the scale with that statement.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
13. yes, NSA 'hacks' to gather all their info about people. It must be easy for clever criminals
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:56 AM
Jul 2015

to use the same "door" NSA installed and uses.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
16. This "Hacking Team" story is as big as the NSA files.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 08:16 AM
Jul 2015

But no one cares because it's not the big old ugly USA doing it.

Just proves that all countries love to spy on everyone including their own people.

Quite unfortunate.

And good on Firefox for blocking Flash.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
11. anyone think this hack will work easy on cell phones, especially texts or twitter where people
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 07:53 AM
Jul 2015

do view videos, pictures and also use their cell phones to bank and pay with credit cards?

advertisers use flash add ons, be so easy to attach a hack to all the ads on those venues. and aps of all types.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
15. Now I know why it's been doing that.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 08:11 AM
Jul 2015

Thought it was my computer, I've had some issues with my computer lately.

Thanks for posting.

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
18. had a crash earlier and had to quit flash player, firefox
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 08:27 AM
Jul 2015

and reboot. Locked me up but good. I've updated it twice recently. I hope someone posts the update so I know when to do it again. ugh. So frustrating!

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
19. They've had problems for months
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 09:17 AM
Jul 2015

It was so bad, my browser was slower than 56k days. I had sound playing for no reason, and all other flash related issues. Now that the crap is being blocked, my browser works much better.

Think about it. If you're going to hack something, find software that is widely used by all machines and hack it. You watch, Java will be hit next.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
20. There was a sports related forum that I loved to visit but they were heavy on Flash advertising.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 09:36 AM
Jul 2015

I use Mozilla for my home browser and it rendered the site nearly unusable, which was a shame because it was a cool community.

Now that Flash has been suspended, I can actually visit it again.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
21. Macs are sold without Flash installed.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 09:37 AM
Jul 2015

For good reason.

Flash is decades old crap code. It needs to die.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
24. And when you get the BBC and many premium video streaming sites to agree
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 11:35 AM
Jul 2015

THAT would be the time to kill flash.

Otherwise it's just easier to use flash block on Chrome to disable autoplay then click on whatever you choose to watch You know, for the benefit of users.

hunter

(38,312 posts)
22. I've avoided Flash for years. I simply don't install it.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 10:01 AM
Jul 2015

I suspect it's always been a tool for surveillance, and not just for marketing people weaseling around browser ad-blocking software and privacy settings.

"It's not a bug, it's a feature!"

If a website insists on using Flash, it's their loss, not mine. I don't have to look at their content if they don't want me looking at their content.

It's not that I ever buy much of anything anyways but for necessities, occasional small entertainments, thrift store, and salvage stuff, as I'm the cantankerous sort who believes all major corporations are guilty until proven innocent.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
23. I was wondering about that yesterday as well.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 10:19 AM
Jul 2015

I haven't really bothered, since I was mostly just reading translated web-novels, before sleeping.

Thanks.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
26. Is this a problem only for Firefox. I use Chrome a whe I tried to nd
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 12:57 PM
Jul 2015

update, I got message that all Flash updates are automatic? I'm dumb as door nails when it comes to computers, so should I,a Chrome user, be concerned about this?

ffr

(22,670 posts)
28. Yes, IE and Chrome use there own Flash plug-ins
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 01:27 PM
Jul 2015

You'll need to keep all your browser plug-ins patched and up to date.

Firefox helps users to this end, with a one-stop checkup. Select Tools*, Add-ons, Plug-ins, then click Check to see if your plugins are up to date. Update all those that are out of date.

* All versions of Firefox since v24, I believe, are (annoyingly) preconfigured to hide the standard menu bar. Use Alt-F to prompt it, then View, Toolbars, Menu Bar. Or the keyboard shortcut to Add-ons is: {Ctrl]-[Shift]-A.

Gloria

(17,663 posts)
31. I had a blocked video a short while ago, with a message about an out of date plug in..
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 01:55 AM
Jul 2015

So, I followed the link and downloaded something new,,,and it automatically uninstalled the old version...,and it seems ok now...
this just after doing an update just a few days ago...

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)
35. I'm kind of glad. Maybe this will be final nail in flash's coffin
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 10:23 AM
Jul 2015

This would have been extremely disruptive five or six years ago though.

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