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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 08:33 AM Jul 2015

Netanyahu: Iran Deal Is Historic Mistake

Source: TDB/NBC

Israeli Prime Minister Bejamin Netanyahu condemned the landmark nuclear deal with Iran before it was finalized Tuesday, describing it as “a bad mistake of historic proportions.” Before a meeting with Dutch Foreign Minister Bert Koenders in Jerusalem, Netanyahu warned any deal was a giving Iran a “sure path to nuclear weapons.” Other officials, including Israel’s Minister of Science, Technology and Space Danny Danon, called the Vienna deal disappointing, while Israeli Education Minister Naftali Bennet described it as an “eternal shame.”

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Netanyahu: Iran Nuke Deal Is Mistake Of 'Historic Proportions'

JERUSALEM (AP) — Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called Tuesday's nuclear deal with Iran a mistake of "historic proportions" and vowed to keep up efforts to block the Islamic Republic from obtaining an atomic bomb.

The strong reaction was echoed across the political spectrum in Israel, where concern is high the country's arch enemy has duped the world and will acquire nuclear weapons to use against Israel. Iran already backs militant groups that attack Israel and its leaders frequently have referred to Israel's destruction in the past.

Netanyahu has been at the forefront of global opposition to the deal and has openly clashed with the Obama administration and other Western powers that have been pushing for an easing of sanctions in return for greater restrictions on its nuclear program. Netanyahu showed no signs of tempering his criticism Tuesday and added a veiled threat of his own.

"One cannot prevent an agreement when the negotiators are willing to make more and more concessions to those who, even during the talks, keep chanting: 'Death to America,'" he said, before meeting with Dutch Foreign Minister Bert Koenders. "We knew very well that the desire to sign an agreement was stronger than anything, and therefore we did not commit to preventing an agreement. We did commit to preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons, and this commitment still stands."

In the past, Israel has threatened to carry out a military strike against Iran's nuclear installations. But that option appeared to fade as the U.S.-led group of powers engaged in diplomacy with Iran.

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Netanyahu: Iran Deal Is Historic Mistake (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2015 OP
Even if they do cheat rtracey Jul 2015 #1
If they do I suspect they might regret it as I would not put it past Israel to drop one or two of cstanleytech Jul 2015 #4
If Bibi hates it, it's probably a decent deal. Atman Jul 2015 #2
After the framework, he was clear there was NOTHING that could be a good deal karynnj Jul 2015 #29
Yeah, he'd ann--- Jul 2015 #3
It takes one to know one, Bibi! Helen Borg Jul 2015 #5
Netanyahu has only one interest: crippling Iran with sanctions. Nitram Jul 2015 #6
Netanyahu wants Iran blown off the map meow2u3 Jul 2015 #10
You may be right, Meow. Preventing a negiotiated solution that actually worked... Nitram Jul 2015 #14
No - the thing that he wants is much simpler. RiverNoord Jul 2015 #19
must be scary for countries Iran has threatened, but the world can't keep a country in the stone age Sunlei Jul 2015 #7
Under the deal, they won't be able to blow up in Iran. jeff47 Jul 2015 #28
Thanks, that is good to know. Its the 'accident' part like Japan I most worry about. Sunlei Jul 2015 #30
Actually, oil is worse. jeff47 Jul 2015 #31
but crude oil is just very aged dinosaur and plant juice, sure is messy though. Sunlei Jul 2015 #33
Netanyahu: < First mistake was listening to this fascist asshole.n/t jtuck004 Jul 2015 #8
So what? HassleCat Jul 2015 #9
Netanyahu is Israel's biggest "Mistake" of "Historic Proportions" Stuart G Jul 2015 #11
Unfortunately, he's just one in a rarely interrupted RiverNoord Jul 2015 #20
Thats why Republicans political "charity" spent millions to set-up meetings /wCongress Rs & Netan. Sunlei Jul 2015 #32
Neah neah-neah neah neah booga booga booga!! DinahMoeHum Jul 2015 #12
Putting you in any other office than dog catcher... davidpdx Jul 2015 #13
Hey, Bibi, the cop has some directions for you Feeling the Bern Jul 2015 #15
Bibi is speaking on the deal. 9:30 CNN oasis Jul 2015 #16
Since when did Israel become the 51st state in the country bigdarryl Jul 2015 #17
Of course. RiverNoord Jul 2015 #22
Netanyahu is Working Against Israel's Best Interests McKim Jul 2015 #18
Allowing the Israelis to lead us around by the nose has been a mistake geek tragedy Jul 2015 #21
I'd be careful... Helen Borg Jul 2015 #23
you mean if they stop sending us money and providing us diplomatic geek tragedy Jul 2015 #24
Yeah! Helen Borg Jul 2015 #27
Or worse.... ann--- Jul 2015 #34
Diplomacy=Munich, blah-blah-blah. Aristus Jul 2015 #25
That man should be sitting in a dock at The Hague alongside Cleita Jul 2015 #26
a puppet of Dick Cheney, and vice versa tomm2thumbs Jul 2015 #35
 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
1. Even if they do cheat
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 08:37 AM
Jul 2015

Yes and.... so they cheat, then the deal is off.... politics..... Israel always say they are for peace, yet when something like this treaty comes along, with protections in it to make sure the commitment is there, and they still balk, put in my mind Israel is as much of a war mongering nation as the right wing of our nation.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
4. If they do I suspect they might regret it as I would not put it past Israel to drop one or two of
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 08:42 AM
Jul 2015

their own on Iran to show them the error of their ways.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
2. If Bibi hates it, it's probably a decent deal.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 08:40 AM
Jul 2015

Nyetin' Yahoo won't be happy with anything short of bombing Iran. Other people being Iran.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
29. After the framework, he was clear there was NOTHING that could be a good deal
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 12:24 PM
Jul 2015

He said of the framework, that if there were a deal like that it could be in Iran's interest to comply for 10 years -- and even then it was a bad deal. This from a man, who got most of the science wrong when he was at the UN with his cartoon. The only accurate thing was that Iran was already only months away from a bomb if they want it.

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
10. Netanyahu wants Iran blown off the map
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 09:04 AM
Jul 2015

Crippling Iran with sanctions is just a step in Nut-n-yahoo's ultimate goal: to wipe Iran off the face of the earth.

Nitram

(22,801 posts)
14. You may be right, Meow. Preventing a negiotiated solution that actually worked...
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 09:13 AM
Jul 2015

...would result in a major bombing attack on Iran. Perhaps Bibi wanted Iran to continue developing a nuclear weapon so that we would have to react militarily to destroy their facilities.

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
19. No - the thing that he wants is much simpler.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 11:00 AM
Jul 2015

He wants enough bogeymen to enable the region to remain in low-level conflict indefinitely, or, at least, to enable him to sell that story to the right idiots around the world (lots of U.S. legislators, officials, especially, who don't actually buy the story, but like to sell it to the American public for their own reasons). He wants these bogeymen so that, when his regime steals land in Gaza or the West Bank, he can quickly shift attention to the bogeymen. It's been effective for many years. The reduction of tensions between Europe and, especially, the US, and Iran has a general tendency to move toward more peace in the region, and that's the real danger to the Israeli right wing.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
7. must be scary for countries Iran has threatened, but the world can't keep a country in the stone age
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 08:56 AM
Jul 2015

edit to add,

Its most likely there will be more nuclear disasters but they probably will be another 'Russian type disaster' or Japan type tsunami disaster.

Or perhaps some technology where nukes are stored will blow up due to operator error or sabotage attack directly on the stockpile. Russia needs to watch out, IS has claimed part of Russia as 'their state' last month. That country isn't prepared to deal with that.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
28. Under the deal, they won't be able to blow up in Iran.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 12:21 PM
Jul 2015

(Assuming you mean "blow up" to be a nuclear explosion, and not a conventional explosive strapped to a container or a power-plant explosion like Chernobyl)

4% enrichment can't cause a nuclear explosion for the same reason your desk can't cause a nuclear explosion. The materials are too stable.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
30. Thanks, that is good to know. Its the 'accident' part like Japan I most worry about.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 12:29 PM
Jul 2015
because those nuclear 'accidents' contaminate much further and last longer then even all the mega oil disasters.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
31. Actually, oil is worse.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 12:32 PM
Jul 2015

The radiation comes from the decay of the polluting material. Each time plutonium gives off a beta particle, there's a little less plutonium.

Meanwhile, the oil just sits there.

(Now, the timeframe involved for significant radioactive decay is quite long. But the oil will still be sitting there.)

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
9. So what?
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 09:03 AM
Jul 2015

Deal or no deal, Israel gets to bomb Iran. That should make Bibi happy, but he seems to be sulking. Perhaps he's afraid the moment will slip away until after he leaves office. A bucket list kind of thing.

Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
11. Netanyahu is Israel's biggest "Mistake" of "Historic Proportions"
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 09:04 AM
Jul 2015

Time will show the truth...and the truth which will be shown..is the above heading of this post...

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
20. Unfortunately, he's just one in a rarely interrupted
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 11:04 AM
Jul 2015

line of PMs who have been fighting the 1948 war forever. They don't know how to govern if they don't have bogeymen and are able to deliberately harness marginal risks to the Israeli people to enable land-grabbing.

It may be that the modern state of Israel is incapable of functioning in a state of actual international peace. I hope not...

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
32. Thats why Republicans political "charity" spent millions to set-up meetings /wCongress Rs & Netan.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 12:47 PM
Jul 2015
 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
17. Since when did Israel become the 51st state in the country
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 09:39 AM
Jul 2015

Why even listen to what he has to say because he only wants WAR!!

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
22. Of course.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 11:09 AM
Jul 2015

That's why he's listened to. U.S. policy regarding the 'Middle East' has always been to foster divisions in order to prevent too much peace where most of the world's oil is. Let the various Arab, Kurd, Persian and Turkish populations get too friendly with each other and they might decide that they don't like doing business with us all that much.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
18. Netanyahu is Working Against Israel's Best Interests
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 09:40 AM
Jul 2015

Netanyahu is shooting himself in the foot and letting Israel down by trying to kill this historic and important agreement. A deal with Iran would make Israel safer. This is why we have agreements in the first place, it's called Diplomacy.

It is insanity to want another war in the Middle East. Netanyahu is acting like someone with mental illness. Does he want the US to
fight with Iran for Israel? Are we willing to send our youth to fight and die instead of having an agreement?

Iran could be a good and stable trading partner in Central Asia. They are a modern country and we need an ally in that region.
To scuttle this agreement is madness. Get on the phone and make a lobby date, folks. We can't let this mental case be in charge of our reasonable and judicious foreign policy.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
21. Allowing the Israelis to lead us around by the nose has been a mistake
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 11:07 AM
Jul 2015

of historic proportions.

They can go pound sand.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
26. That man should be sitting in a dock at The Hague alongside
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 12:17 PM
Jul 2015

Bush and Cheney for being war criminals in their respective nations.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
35. a puppet of Dick Cheney, and vice versa
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 01:37 AM
Jul 2015

they must really love to swap saliva, those two -- they are always using each other's tongues to dart out the most ridiculous scare-tactics every imagined. OMG OMG OMG

Cheney, please return your heart. You are undeserving of such a gift

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